[Eldat Pressen]

Fanderay, on 08 November 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

Good lord. Spoiler the images!

And 2 people silenced? Really? Not likely. If one of you is town fucking around, this is problematic.

2 Uncle Bens?

I do think it's possible that they are both silenced. But it does seem noteworthy that the 2 muted players showed up after that comention regarding the ability.

[Tennes]

Merrid, on 08 November 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

LoL, I guess I should have figured someone would jump on me for that, but hey, what can ya do when everyone's paranoid.

My suggestion was simply that, a suggestion. That being said, if we don't do SOMETHING about these two silenced players to find out if one is lying, then it's just going to be a thorn in our sides throughout the whole game. Everyone's going to constantly refer to this Day 1 crap for reasons why one or the other is suspicious.

Look at it this way - if one of them is scum trying to weasel their way out of a lynch using the WIFOM a fake silencing is creating, then lynching them both ensures we lynch that scum. If they are both town, then whichever one is not actually silenced would have to come out and say it or get lynched - given they're a town player being an idiot for doing this in the first place, well, I'd rather get rid of the idiots early.

Lynch me if you must for suggesting it, but I still think lynching them both is a better idea than letting this fester throughout the whole game.

See this same exchange nearly every game. Always looks the same for the most part as well. Yawn.

Now go through all the previous Benses games and check if scum EVER silenced themselves on Day1

What is the "n" of that study, 3? Highly doubt that study would have sufficient power to generate a relevant p value.

[Eldat Pressen]

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

That seems to be my impression of events as well.

vote Ay Estos

[Tennes]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 08 November 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

Good lord. Spoiler the images!

And 2 people silenced? Really? Not likely. If one of you is town fucking around, this is problematic.

2 Uncle Bens?

I do think it's possible that they are both silenced. But it does seem noteworthy that the 2 muted players showed up after that comention regarding the ability.

5 and a half hours after the real start of the day. Not that surprising. Now 2 muted players, yes, surprising.

[Merrid]

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 November 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

LoL, I guess I should have figured someone would jump on me for that, but hey, what can ya do when everyone's paranoid.

My suggestion was simply that, a suggestion. That being said, if we don't do SOMETHING about these two silenced players to find out if one is lying, then it's just going to be a thorn in our sides throughout the whole game. Everyone's going to constantly refer to this Day 1 crap for reasons why one or the other is suspicious.

Look at it this way - if one of them is scum trying to weasel their way out of a lynch using the WIFOM a fake silencing is creating, then lynching them both ensures we lynch that scum. If they are both town, then whichever one is not actually silenced would have to come out and say it or get lynched - given they're a town player being an idiot for doing this in the first place, well, I'd rather get rid of the idiots early.

Lynch me if you must for suggesting it, but I still think lynching them both is a better idea than letting this fester throughout the whole game.

See this same exchange nearly every game. Always looks the same for the most part as well. Yawn.

Now go through all the previous Benses games and check if scum EVER silenced themselves on Day1

What is the "n" of that study, 3? Highly doubt that study would have sufficient power to generate a relevant p value.

We'll tweak the ANOVAs until SOMETHING works.

[Osseric]

Someone please explain how pretending to be silenced helps town? I seem to recall JA or dibs doing this in one of the early games...and if I am not mistaken it was seen as a good move

But I can't remember how.

Anyone?
Bueller
Bueller
Bueller

[Tennes]

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 08 November 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

Good lord. Spoiler the images!

And 2 people silenced? Really? Not likely. If one of you is town fucking around, this is problematic.

2 Uncle Bens?

I do think it's possible that they are both silenced. But it does seem noteworthy that the 2 muted players showed up after that comention regarding the ability.

5 and a half hours after the real start of the day. Not that surprising. Now 2 muted players, yes, surprising.

Replying to myself to add this quote from the OP:

" However, your mastery of Meanas allows you to silence one player per day. You do this by sending the mods the name of the player you want to silence."

Not sure what you are looking to gain EP from not reading the OP.

[Tennes]

Merrid, on 08 November 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Merrid, on 08 November 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

LoL, I guess I should have figured someone would jump on me for that, but hey, what can ya do when everyone's paranoid.

My suggestion was simply that, a suggestion. That being said, if we don't do SOMETHING about these two silenced players to find out if one is lying, then it's just going to be a thorn in our sides throughout the whole game. Everyone's going to constantly refer to this Day 1 crap for reasons why one or the other is suspicious.

Look at it this way - if one of them is scum trying to weasel their way out of a lynch using the WIFOM a fake silencing is creating, then lynching them both ensures we lynch that scum. If they are both town, then whichever one is not actually silenced would have to come out and say it or get lynched - given they're a town player being an idiot for doing this in the first place, well, I'd rather get rid of the idiots early.

Lynch me if you must for suggesting it, but I still think lynching them both is a better idea than letting this fester throughout the whole game.

See this same exchange nearly every game. Always looks the same for the most part as well. Yawn.

Now go through all the previous Benses games and check if scum EVER silenced themselves on Day1

What is the "n" of that study, 3? Highly doubt that study would have sufficient power to generate a relevant p value.

We'll tweak the ANOVAs until SOMETHING works.

Redulplicating data is definitely the way to go if you want numbers.

[Eldat Pressen]

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

LoL, I guess I should have figured someone would jump on me for that, but hey, what can ya do when everyone's paranoid.

My suggestion was simply that, a suggestion. That being said, if we don't do SOMETHING about these two silenced players to find out if one is lying, then it's just going to be a thorn in our sides throughout the whole game. Everyone's going to constantly refer to this Day 1 crap for reasons why one or the other is suspicious.

Look at it this way - if one of them is scum trying to weasel their way out of a lynch using the WIFOM a fake silencing is creating, then lynching them both ensures we lynch that scum. If they are both town, then whichever one is not actually silenced would have to come out and say it or get lynched - given they're a town player being an idiot for doing this in the first place, well, I'd rather get rid of the idiots early.

Lynch me if you must for suggesting it, but I still think lynching them both is a better idea than letting this fester throughout the whole game.

That assumes that 1 or both are faking being silenced. I personally wouldn't be surprised that neither are. But you do make a good point that we probably should test the theory out by lynching one of them. Not sure what to do now.

[Ay Estos]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

That seems to be my impression of events as well.

vote Ay Estos

Interesting that you're jumping so quickly onto an easy train.

[Merrid]

Osseric, on 08 November 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

Someone please explain how pretending to be silenced helps town? I seem to recall JA or dibs doing this in one of the early games...and if I am not mistaken it was seen as a good move

But I can't remember how.

Anyone?
Bueller
Bueller
Bueller

In the Asylum game, like 3 people role-played crazy lunatics (including a scum).
It made things hilarious, but wasn't particularly useful.

[Ay Estos]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

That assumes that 1 or both are faking being silenced. I personally wouldn't be surprised that neither are. But you do make a good point that we probably should test the theory out by lynching one of them. Not sure what to do now.

What in the world makes you think that there are 2 silencing powers out there? There's nothing that I saw/read in the OPs that would suggest such a thing is even possible in this game, so stop making up roles that don't exist.

[Tennes]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

LoL, I guess I should have figured someone would jump on me for that, but hey, what can ya do when everyone's paranoid.

My suggestion was simply that, a suggestion. That being said, if we don't do SOMETHING about these two silenced players to find out if one is lying, then it's just going to be a thorn in our sides throughout the whole game. Everyone's going to constantly refer to this Day 1 crap for reasons why one or the other is suspicious.

Look at it this way - if one of them is scum trying to weasel their way out of a lynch using the WIFOM a fake silencing is creating, then lynching them both ensures we lynch that scum. If they are both town, then whichever one is not actually silenced would have to come out and say it or get lynched - given they're a town player being an idiot for doing this in the first place, well, I'd rather get rid of the idiots early.

Lynch me if you must for suggesting it, but I still think lynching them both is a better idea than letting this fester throughout the whole game.

That assumes that 1 or both are faking being silenced. I personally wouldn't be surprised that neither are. But you do make a good point that we probably should test the theory out by lynching one of them. Not sure what to do now.

Dude, EP, there is no question one of them is faking it. Read the goddamn OP.

The question is more if the faker is stupid town or stupid scum. The adjective is the same.

[Tennes]

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

That seems to be my impression of events as well.

vote Ay Estos

Interesting that you're jumping so quickly onto an easy train.

One vote a train does not make.

[Osseric]

So here's a theory. Big Ben didn't think that there would be an hour zero silence and thought he might be clever and pretend to be silenced. However, uncle Bennie did silence someone and now Big Ben is in trouble.

Not terrible trouble because if he gets lynched he will just move. Which is why it may have been worth the risk to take day 1. Worst case you get caught and shift... Best case you make yourself look more innocent if you don't get caught.

Middle chance that this move gets 1 towny lynched day 1 and you have to shift on day 2.

Thoughts?

[Eldat Pressen]

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

That assumes that 1 or both are faking being silenced. I personally wouldn't be surprised that neither are. But you do make a good point that we probably should test the theory out by lynching one of them. Not sure what to do now.

What in the world makes you think that there are 2 silencing powers out there? There's nothing that I saw/read in the OPs that would suggest such a thing is even possible in this game, so stop making up roles that don't exist.

Nothing but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

[Eldat Pressen]

Tennes, on 08 November 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Jalan, on 08 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

How likely is it that Uncle Ben targetted Big Ben on night zero? Because if he didn't and the symp or some stupid town pretend to be muted alongside a player that's actually muted it created a perfect smokescreen for the first couple of days.

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

So... why don't we just vote one of them out today, then the other tomorrow?


remove vote
vote Anomandaris

So you want to use the smokescreen to set up two lynches in a row?

vote Ay Estos

LoL, I guess I should have figured someone would jump on me for that, but hey, what can ya do when everyone's paranoid.

My suggestion was simply that, a suggestion. That being said, if we don't do SOMETHING about these two silenced players to find out if one is lying, then it's just going to be a thorn in our sides throughout the whole game. Everyone's going to constantly refer to this Day 1 crap for reasons why one or the other is suspicious.

Look at it this way - if one of them is scum trying to weasel their way out of a lynch using the WIFOM a fake silencing is creating, then lynching them both ensures we lynch that scum. If they are both town, then whichever one is not actually silenced would have to come out and say it or get lynched - given they're a town player being an idiot for doing this in the first place, well, I'd rather get rid of the idiots early.

Lynch me if you must for suggesting it, but I still think lynching them both is a better idea than letting this fester throughout the whole game.

That assumes that 1 or both are faking being silenced. I personally wouldn't be surprised that neither are. But you do make a good point that we probably should test the theory out by lynching one of them. Not sure what to do now.

Dude, EP, there is no question one of them is faking it. Read the goddamn OP.

The question is more if the faker is stupid town or stupid scum. The adjective is the same.

I'm lazy so I'll pass. But apparentry it's clear as day in the OP that I missed the first time I skimmed through it. Well then I stand corrected. Apologies let's move on.

[Osseric]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

What in the world makes you think that there are 2 silencing powers out there? There's nothing that I saw/read in the OPs that would suggest such a thing is even possible in this game, so stop making up roles that don't exist.

Nothing but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

What the actual fuck?

[Osseric]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

I'm lazy so I'll pass. But apparentry it's clear as day in the OP that I missed the first time I skimmed through it. Well then I stand corrected. Apologies let's move on.

You must be because in the actual thread there is at least 3 references to the power of UB. And his ability to only silence a single person per day.

[Ay Estos]

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 08 November 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 08 November 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

That assumes that 1 or both are faking being silenced. I personally wouldn't be surprised that neither are. But you do make a good point that we probably should test the theory out by lynching one of them. Not sure what to do now.

What in the world makes you think that there are 2 silencing powers out there? There's nothing that I saw/read in the OPs that would suggest such a thing is even possible in this game, so stop making up roles that don't exist.

Nothing but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

Seriously? The OP is pretty clear on what to expect from this game, and 2 silencing roles is NOT one of those things. If it's in there, I'm gonna have to have a conversation with PS about lying to us.