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Erikson has started writing THE GOD IS NOT WILLING (Toblakai Trilogy Book 1) Kharkanas Trilogy "on hold" Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 06:18 PM

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Is that the actual name of the trilogy? More people need to see this.


Heh... that's pretty much perfect. Just needs a few exclamation points at the end.
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Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:06 PM

View PostAbyss, on 18 January 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

View PostEnd of Disc One, on 18 January 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

View Postworry, on 18 January 2018 - 01:43 AM, said:



Is that the actual name of the trilogy? More people need to see this.


Heh... that's pretty much perfect. Just needs a few exclamation points at the end.


It's TOTALLY a perfect trilogy title. I cannot think of a better one.

Man, I can't wait for these books!
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:31 PM

I'm extremely disappointed in a delay for WIL. I'm a little wary about the Karsa books tbh, because Karsa was (for me) the equivalent of Neelix for Malaz.
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:43 PM

A new update, the beginning of chapter 1

Chapter 1

CHAPTER 1
To rise in the wake of a fallen age
makes one forgetful of the fear and strife,
the smoke and flames and all who suffered
broken of soul and empty-eyed.
So raise high those who fell.
We'll have new gods to herald this dawn.
And if their bones refuse to stir,
paint your faith on every temple wall
and be content,
for no one wants a god to take notice,
and you can be sure of this:
bones never do.

Vinisk, The Prophet Who Sleeps On a Bed of Corpses.
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:08 PM

I realize the poem is speaking of honoring the dead and remembering their deeds but the mention of gods actually has me thinking about future books set after the Dust of Dreams and Crippled God books.

Icariums ritual created the possibility of "grand children" of the gods. Even more specific aspects and deities. Will this become a focus in Karsa's books? Karsa of course does not care for gods, even though he himself might become one, but there is a power vacuum when there are unfilled positions in the Deck of Dragons and power draws power.
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 12:40 PM

Not suprised the sales slumped. The last half of MBotF were hard work, and I gave up after 2/3rds of FoD.
The Karsa novels need to go back to how he was writing from GotM through to MT (with the exception the firestorm scene from The Bonehunters) which were great books that i couldn't put down.
The books got drawn out, the entire cast turned into emos, and it was all too much like hard work to plough through.
Hope beyond hope that he returns to writing the way he did when he started.
Get to the chopper!
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 02:13 PM

While I admit the last few MBOTF books were harder work and more philosophical and navel gaze-y, the reward I got for that struggle in the form of TCG was SO very worth it.
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 01:01 AM

New today

City of Darujistan
6th year of the rule of the Mitigant
Eighth year after the Seguleh exodus

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 04:31 AM

Eighth year after the Seguleh Exodus
I've always been crazy but its kept me from going insane.
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:48 AM

Right
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 02:26 PM

That means Harllo is 23 now, right?


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:51 PM

Can't wait to meet his grandkids.
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Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:41 PM

Harllo: Mason of High House Time Indeterminacy
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 01:10 AM

Erikson has posted the Chapter 2 Epigraph:

There were many reasons for the exodus from
the great city of Darujhistan following the Tyrant's
Fall. The old ways of doing things, of governance,
of the guilds and the merchants and the unfettered
ways of commerce. Too much had changed and
the future was, as always, uncertain. But every end
is followed by rebirth. Indeed, few denizens not
directly affected by the departures even noticed,
and life simply went on, and the city's unbroken
narrative, always both a blessing and a curse,
continued as it always did.
Would it have made a difference, given the
storm that was coming? That, we will never know.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 04:53 PM

Chapter 3's Epigraph from Erikson's Facebook page:

"I shall destroy what I can, but never shall I claim to
own what I destroy. I will be the embodiment of
progress, but emptied of greed. I shall be Nature's fist:
blind. The land, the seas, the life to be found there.
The mountains, the plains, the cities, the farms. Water,
air. We own none of it. This is what I will prove, and
by proving it, make it so."


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 08:08 AM

"Today in Darujhistan, Picker, Blend and Scillara had lunch at a rooftop restaurant."

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 09:04 AM

Aaaaand I'm so late to the show :p

On the one hand, it makes me sad that the third book is on hold... on the other hand, I wasn't much interested in Kharkhanas trilogy to begin with, and am excited to see Karsa being worked on and coming soon(ish).

I don't know. It's a pretty heavy read, and oftentimes I had to re-read entire pages because I was dosing off inside (which was not the case for them marines and their inner thoughts in books 6-10 of MBotF, interestingly enough - I loved that!). Then again, I absolutely loved every last bit of the War on Death // Omtose Phellack side of the books. Could stem from me not being overly interested in the Tiste folk (besides awesome individuals like Rake and Spinnock) and having plenty of love for all the Founding Races.

Ah well. As long as we do get it finished at some point, it's all good.


Think maybe the disparity of sales between Kharkhanas books and ICE's new empire founding books could be not just in style, but also subject?
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 26 April 2018 - 09:11 AM

Every single time Erikson points one of the epigraphs I just get a little more excited. I'm worried it'll get to the point where there'll be squeals.

The guy is just too good.
Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 01:52 PM

@Gothos: I also think ICE's books sell better because of the subject. Kellanved and Dancer are popular, entertaining characters and how they became what they are now and how the Empire was founded etc are one of THE most central questions of the Malaz world (even though I don't like the answers to some of these questions so far, I'm still super interested in them). By contrast, the main characters of the Kharkhanas trilogy are members of a mopey, dour people who seem to have a collective Oedipus complex or something. Imo most of the Tiste that show up in the MBotF aren't exactly likeable, interesting individuals who make you want to read more about them or their ancestors, either (looking at you, Nimander and Co).
So basically, the PtA books have a much more appealing premise, I think.
And if the would-be readers of the Kharkhanas trilogy do a little research and find out that:
-the most important Tiste characters in the original series (Anomander, Silchas...or are there some scenes from Silchas' PoV? FoL is a grey mess in my mind)) aren't even PoV characters in the Kharkhanas trilogy, which would have been an interesting challenge
-they don't have all that much screentime
-the new characters are mostly indistinguishable from each other since they spend a lot of time with long, depressing monologues about how civilization is a bad idea and how they should never have left the trees

...I think they might decide to read something else.
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:05 PM

View PostMalazano, on 26 April 2018 - 08:08 AM, said:

"Today in Darujhistan, Picker, Blend and Scillara had lunch at a rooftop restaurant."

Erikson twitter


Oh hell.
*starts a new twitter account*
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