Aranatha, on 24 October 2017 - 07:18 PM, said:
Eldat Pressen, on 24 October 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:
I saw the game started last night, and people talking about the game instead of dragonsex, you boring fuckers :)Jalan/Thyr/Tennes comment on PS's wording and start on role speculation.Dejim calls them out, but also posits that there may be some sort of signalling going on, which I do not see why that would be the case.Path-Shaper clears up the mechanic speculation.Kalse in turn is suspicious of those talking mechanics.
Jalan, on 23 October 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:
Dejim reads the OP and doesn't have any questions about why the '?' is there. That to me looks like you have a scum PM therefore didn't even realise why there might be an issue.Vote Dejim Nebrahl
To be fair, I did not have questions either. I glanced at it and thought three killers, healer and finder, okay. *nodded headDejim makes his point again on role speculation, then returns the vote for Jalan. The downside to this vote is having the signalling part of it, I don't see why there'd be signalling. I'd see the vote for role speculation.Skintick also agrees about signalling being pointless here.
Now here is the reason I am going to vote.Ay Estos, on 23 October 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
Dejim is either intentionally acting as an idiot or is as dense as Jupiter's core. What the fuck does he mean, 'no scum role speculation'? So if it's not clear how many kills are in game,we shouldn't discuss when we're going to expect D-day?
Jalan and Dejim are indeed butting heads so this looks to me like a chainsaw defense.
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Chainsaw Defense The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".
That's an interesting amount of effort on a D1 caseWritten as clearly as possible so nobody can misunderstand or misrepresent what you're sayingA reasoning that is none of the D1 cliches provides interesting alternative to the obvious choice of voting the one outstanding guy who recklessly posted some bsToo clean?Anyway Ay's post seems completely sensible to me in the context, plus it doesn't appear like Jalan needed to be defended, unless you're thinking fake-sympingAnd the post doesn't prompt any further spec about kills as far as I can see(you wanted comments)
Aranatha, on 24 October 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:
Tennes, on 24 October 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:
Okay, so the Ay thing is interested. Except it's implying that Ay is defending Jalan, without actually giving an opinion on whether Jalan is scum or not- only that by virtue of "defending" him Ay is scum. On the other hand, the lizard-cat is all high and mighty about how "obvious" it is that the 3 killers all have off-thread comms, but then literally in the same paragraph he makes signalling accusations- in a game which he "obviously" realizes has no symps, and thus no need for signalling. The Jalan and Ay thing may warrant a further look (I mean from where I'm sitting, Eldat is kinda shoving Jalan into the spotlight, then switching focus to Ay), but for now I can't ignore the lizard-cat's "obvious" lack of consistency. vote Dejim Nebral Obviously
It appears Tennes has already said the most important things from my last posts :DThis Dejim train has picked up speed really easily, but I can see why and the lack of resistance wouldn't be surprising with 3 paired killers as opposed to usual killer+symp combo so I too prefer DejimWill hold off voting for now
So, over a read of the thread, I find that Aranatha's end of day actions bug the hell out of me. Complaining when a player makes a logical case on D1 instead of joining in the usual D1 shitshow lynch. Their misnaming of their vote for DN, which ps did not count, which seemed awfully eager to seem like they are an eager townie trying to fit in. Then trying to deflect EP's case of the chainsaw-defense of Ay defending Jalan, claiming a set-up of fake symping, which in turn appears to me to be a set-up for fake-symping Jalan. Finally, combine that with his Broken Empire talk, focusing on the second trilogy, who's primary p.o.v. character is none other than Prince Jalan Kendeth. So many things from Aradatha end of D1, just don't line up right in my eyes.
Also, I'm really hoping this makes sense. I've had to pull several surprise 12hr graveyard shifts over the last three nights and have netted 12hours of sleep combined in the last 96 hours.
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