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Need help understanding this statement by Draconus

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:51 AM

This is after Caplo attacked Draconus and Draconus promises them a realm and a throne.
The statement below in bold is not clear to me. Appreciate any clarification of it.

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Draconus shook his Dead. 'D'ivers now, as well. The Shake consort with forces they do not understand. Not just the cursed legacy of the desperate Eresal eludes that understanding, but so too the one you now challenge


Finally rereading FoL and it has been fun. I am a bit confident now that Ruthan is Arathan because Gothos explicitly mentions that Arathan should treat Draconus as a friend which is what Ruthan calls Draconus at one point.
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:57 AM

Just a shot in the dark since I forgot a lot, but maybe he's saying "You pitiful fools are messing with things you don't and can't understand: first of all, the cursed legacy of Erasal [aka D'ivers magic]; second of all, ME."
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 04:03 AM

View Postworry, on 11 October 2017 - 03:57 AM, said:

Just a shot in the dark since I forgot a lot, but maybe he's saying "You pitiful fools are messing with things you don't and can't understand: first of all, the cursed legacy of Erasal [aka D'ivers magic]; second of all, ME."


This statement stands alone. So I think what you say makes sense.

Never connected Eresal to D'ivers before, so this may be significant.
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 04:12 AM

Yah, it kinda goes back to the initial beliefs about evolution (not to mention some extinctions) of the hominids in the series: Eresal --> Imass --> Humans, and how they've muddied over the course of the books. Biology, Creationism, and Magic are all kinda swirling around each other and the lines aren't clean and they get less clear the further back you go.
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