It's like someone saw the success of JOHN WICK, and thought...."What old commentary on the brutality of the concept of revenge can we mine? Oh yeah, DEATH WISH!"
That same person then went....make it Quippier, QUIPPIER!!!
This abomination looks terrible.
Also, ashamed that this appears to have been shot in my city.
...and the answer to all this shit...is that it's been made by Eli "I'm a fucking hack" Roth.
Ugh.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
Your nostalgia is running away with your mind... hard to ruin what was never all that good in the first place.
Yeah, the original is not very good, but...
I would merely argue that DEATH WISH was a social commentary on the brutality of revenge. It's dark, and visceral, and basically speaks to the fact that the one getting revenge isn't much above the ones who did the deed in the first place.
This looks like it's just a Willis-actioner with the DEATH WISH facade over top.
It's why I like JOHN WICK. Revenge flicks done VERY well and they don't shy away from the social questions.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
They were bad, and got progressively worse in fact with each sequel....but the original film still stands for a nice social commentary in hindsight that I can appreciate.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
That looks like another movie that I might catch when it is free on netflix or Amazon. But only after I have gone through everything else.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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It's like someone saw the success of JOHN WICK, and thought...."What old commentary on the brutality of the concept of revenge can we mine? Oh yeah, DEATH WISH!"
That same person then went....make it Quippier, QUIPPIER!!!
This abomination looks terrible.
Also, ashamed that this appears to have been shot in my city.
...and the answer to all this shit...is that it's been made by Eli "I'm a fucking hack" Roth.
Ugh.
Read this post on Reddit earlier:
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fun fact: every previous director attached (Stallone, Joe Carnahan, Aharon Keshales & Navot Papushado) to this movie has left due to creative differences. It has been in the development hell for like a decade. Joe Carnahan's email to the studio head after dropping out of the project is fucking legendary:
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"You had a potential Oscar-winning film with maybe the best script in Hollywood but because you're a coward and a dumb fruitloop you now have an untested, second-time director and an arrogant, lazy, aging action star that will run that poor kid into the ground,"
"Good luck, asshole. You're a spineless, gutless turd who doesn't belong in the business. Enjoy your run as a 'studio head,' Glickman. It's going to be a short one. Fuck you, Joe Carnahan."
I actually like Eli Roth's movies but this trailer looks just what I expected and feared. It could still be a pretty fun action movie but it's not what I wanted this remake to be. It has the potential to be a really shocking serious drama but this looks like another generic Bruce Willis action movie with the stupid Eli Roth comedy (that I like sometimes, it works in Cabin Fever but it's fucking awful in Green Inferno) I don't know about Stallone (I think in the Stallone version the character was a retired cop who had never fired his gun) but Carnahan and the Big Bad Wolves guys all wanted to make it as a serious drama and this trailer confirms that's not what the studio wanted.
but hey if it's fun schlock like Death Wish 3 I'm down. I just think the story has potential to be so much better.
Sounds like the money men did indeed get their claws into the product.
Also, this is a hilariously vitriolic e-mail. It's refreshing to see people on this level of business getting that pissed off.
Abyss, on 03 August 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:
Your nostalgia is running away with your mind... hard to ruin what was never all that good in the first place.
Yeah, somebody pointed out the same.
This is a trailer for the first film. You can actually see the 2017 trailer mirroring a bunch of the scenes from the original.
I just feel like older action films, namely Death Wish and Dirty Harry, had this "realness" to them. In reality this was probably more down to budgets, the current development of cinematography and the audience, but I still feel like the old films felt more grounded.
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Posted 04 August 2017 - 01:32 PM
DEATH WISH was a low budg low brow attempt to create a Dirty Harry type series with Charles Bronson. It was never even close.
Bronson wasn't actually a bad actor... FFS he was one of the stars of MAGNIFICENT SEVEN and THE DIRTY DOZEN... but you can see, or at least it looks like, he's just phoning it in with DEATH.
Irony... way back when, Bronson turned down the lead in FISTFUL OF DOLLARS, that then went to Eastwood and pretty much launched his career.
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I think the idea behind so many of these remakes is that most people who saw the original movie are older. Now a new generation has come along and these kind of stories are still relevant and always will be. Only who's going to rent the old Death Wish when you're 24 in 2017... nobody. Same story just filmed and retold with a similar script and outcome with an equally as famous actor in his time. As for the "make something new you Hollywood hacks" argument, how many ways can you tell a revenge story? There's been a million done in every form of media. It's just easier to make some money off an already known brand name.
Personally, I'm not paying shit to see it. But I get why a 16 yr old would get excited that his dad's fave action star is doing a movie where he kicks some ass out of badguys. Same reason why my best buddy and I saw the first Expendables. I remember he and I as kids talking about what would be the best action movie cast as kids. The Expendables had the big names. Sure it finally came true and was cheezy as hell at times, but we saw it and had big grinsthrough the whole movie like we were kids, went to a bar afterwards and talked about all our favorite scenes. What's the difference between that and the Dirty Dozen?
I guess I just like being entertained and I don't think remakes tarnish the older films. If anything it brings light to them. Then again, I guess it's good when they come out, since it brings up the old ones and brings awareness to what they meant at the time.
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