[Tattersail_]

Changed from anonymous, thought I was already seen. Where has Nom gone? Mighty scummy to just disappear.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

I'd like to see your thought processes Khell.

I'll try to put it in some semblance of order:

LB not with Ment because early on she was looking at him as scum. LB not with Mac as says he seems to have blinders for Ment/Venge and later on also looks at Khell/Mac as killers. And then Venge and Mac. LB later also points towards Ando. Comes out against Tatts day 2.

Ment not with Mac as votes for him, points it out when PS misses it. Later doesn't want to be on Mac because Tatts is. But does not want to switch to Mess. Mac points fingers at Ment. Ment later points towards Ando.

Mess not with Mac because that's the only person he's really focused on aside from Venge, and even more so the other way round, Mac has focused on Mess, it was the first fully serious vote of the game.

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

Tatts not with Mac because after him as both killer and symp. Not with Ando, who comes out against him. Tatts now less likely to be with Nom as suggests Nom/Mess partnership, though doesn't vote that way. Tatts quite friendly toward LB and Mess.

Ando not with Tatts as dislikes Tatts' push on Mac.


Tatts and Ment were doing quite a bit of mutual protection for a while - Tatts saying only Ment would NK him which leads to all sorts of speculation, Ment being adamant that Tatts is playing towny.

[Khellendros]

I know this looks like I might be leading to a Mess/Nom partnership, but I'm actually a little sceptical of that, due to Nom joining Messremb on voting for Vengeance, I think before others did it.

[Macros]

That's.

Impressive I guess, I often wonder how you people have jobs and find time to do such comprehensive rereading and in depth thinking into the game.

It could all be symp bunkem of course, but it's impressive non the less.

With the sheer amount of possibilities, plausabiliities and implausabilities fired out between khell and Tatts this morning/afternoon, I have to wonder if we're any way likely to get a lynch today at all.
I don't see enough people agreeing with me to get the lynch I still feel is the right lynch (mess)
Of the other mooted options, Kruppe is looking most viable due to the 2 votes already there. But would a Killer be THAT quiet after making his 'I'm usually quieter as scum' post, or is he just busy?

I *might* consider a switch to kruppe if it's needed to get a lynch, but would rather aim at Nom or Ment (aseeming no one wants to chase mess with me)

[Mentalist]

Catching up

[Khellendros]

6 Votes for Vengeance ( Messremb, ItWasNom, Andorion, Tattersail, Mentalist, Lady Bliss )


Two scum at least in this list (of players alive, only Mac, Kruppe, and myself are off the train. For reasons I outlined earlier, of those - me being one of them, Mac the other - I think only Kruppe could still really be scum).

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Why are you still anonymous Khell?

Just always set that way and haven't changed it. I'll do it after I finish posting my thoughts. If I remember.

Why not after PS posted everyone is to be naked?

Not read up beyond this poat, on my way home, there should be around 2 hours until timeout?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

6 Votes for Vengeance ( Messremb, ItWasNom, Andorion, Tattersail, Mentalist, Lady Bliss )


Two scum at least in this list (of players alive, only Mac, Kruppe, and myself are off the train. For reasons I outlined earlier, of those - me being one of them, Mac the other - I think only Kruppe could still really be scum).

If you 100% believe the scum to be one off one on, then its a 50/50 between Nom and Mac for you to nail a killer. Whereas at best 30% to vote on the train yet you are voting for Nom. Statistically speaking you are voting against what you believe to be true.

[Tattersail_]

Kruppe and Mac* sorry, your vote is on Nom.

[Tattersail_]

I don't know if Nom is going to be like, "oops I missed timeout" with his, "I have not read past this post" post.

[Khellendros]

Hypotheticals time: Let us say that Kruppe is not a killer because of the lack of gametime. That means both killers have to be on the Venge train. Applying the scepticism that the two killers would immediately follow each on the train, and applying the possible/dismissed partnerships from my previous posts, we have:


Messremb (Ando, LB, Ment, Tatts)

ItWasNom (Ando, LB, Ment)

Andorion (Mess)

Tatts (Mess)

Ment (Mess, Nom)

LB (Mess, Nom)


I admit that that's a fair bit of hypothetical in there. I am tempted to go for Mess because his name comes up a lot in my lists and because no one other than Mac seems to be talking about him too much, as if a few are just ignoring it.

[Mentalist]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

I'd like to see your thought processes Khell.

I'll try to put it in some semblance of order:

LB not with Ment because early on she was looking at him as scum. LB not with Mac as says he seems to have blinders for Ment/Venge and later on also looks at Khell/Mac as killers. And then Venge and Mac. LB later also points towards Ando. Comes out against Tatts day 2.

Ment not with Mac as votes for him, points it out when PS misses it. Later doesn't want to be on Mac because Tatts is. But does not want to switch to Mess. Mac points fingers at Ment. Ment later points towards Ando.

Mess not with Mac because that's the only person he's really focused on aside from Venge, and even more so the other way round, Mac has focused on Mess, it was the first fully serious vote of the game.

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

Tatts not with Mac because after him as both killer and symp. Not with Ando, who comes out against him. Tatts now less likely to be with Nom as suggests Nom/Mess partnership, though doesn't vote that way. Tatts quite friendly toward LB and Mess.

Ando not with Tatts as dislikes Tatts' push on Mac.


Tatts and Ment were doing quite a bit of mutual protection for a while - Tatts saying only Ment would NK him which leads to all sorts of speculation, Ment being adamant that Tatts is playing towny.

I pointed the finger at Ando? When?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

6 Votes for Vengeance ( Messremb, ItWasNom, Andorion, Tattersail, Mentalist, Lady Bliss )


Two scum at least in this list (of players alive, only Mac, Kruppe, and myself are off the train. For reasons I outlined earlier, of those - me being one of them, Mac the other - I think only Kruppe could still really be scum).

If you 100% believe the scum to be one off one on, then its a 50/50 between Nom and Mac for you to nail a killer. Whereas at best 30% to vote on the train yet you are voting for Nom. Statistically speaking you are voting against what you believe to be true.

No, it would be 50/50 between Mac and Kruppe to nail a killer. However, I am no longer as certain that that is the case this game. My read suggests that Mac is not a killer (might always be a symp of course). Which would leave the nonexistent Kruppe.

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 01:41 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Why are you still anonymous Khell?

Just always set that way and haven't changed it. I'll do it after I finish posting my thoughts. If I remember.

Why not after PS posted everyone is to be naked?

Not read up beyond this poat, on my way home, there should be around 2 hours until timeout?

Forgot/too lazy.

[Itwæs Nom]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

I don't know if Nom is going to be like, "oops I missed timeout" with his, "I have not read past this post" post.

I'm skimming through

Will be on and off until timeout, fully on for the last half an hour

I'm not liking Khell

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 01:41 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Why are you still anonymous Khell?

Just always set that way and haven't changed it. I'll do it after I finish posting my thoughts. If I remember.

Why not after PS posted everyone is to be naked?

Not read up beyond this poat, on my way home, there should be around 2 hours until timeout?

Forgot/too lazy.

That's 2 different things

So were you aware you're anonymous before I mentioned it or not?

[Khellendros]

@Ment:

You didn't, bad choice of words paraphrasing my own notes, this is what I was referring to, you questioning his reasoning for voting for Vengeance, don't see scum partners bothering with that at this stage (or indeed, raising issue with it now).

Mentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Andorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance

What exactly did you not like?

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

I don't know if Nom is going to be like, "oops I missed timeout" with his, "I have not read past this post" post.

I'm skimming through

Will be on and off until timeout, fully on for the last half an hour

I'm not liking Khell

Shock.

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 01:41 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Why are you still anonymous Khell?

Just always set that way and haven't changed it. I'll do it after I finish posting my thoughts. If I remember.

Why not after PS posted everyone is to be naked?

Not read up beyond this poat, on my way home, there should be around 2 hours until timeout?

Forgot/too lazy.

That's 2 different things

So were you aware you're anonymous before I mentioned it or not?

No it isn't. Too lazy when I read it mentioned, then forgot subsequently. Thus it didn't occur to me again until you raised it. Is there any point which you would like to make from this?

[Khellendros]

Remove Vote

Vote Messremb


Let's see where we go from there.