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Mafia 144.5 - Unalted M&P Game Thread

#221 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 01:50 PM

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:17 PM

That's the worst possible outcome for us.

Vote Mentalist


He is scum and a bloody genius.

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It is Day 1. 11 hours and 17 minutes since time out

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Kruppe of Darujhistan ( Vengeance )
6 Votes for Vengeance ( Messremb, ItWasNom, Andorion, Tattersail, Mentalist, Lady Bliss )
2 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Siergiej )

Players not voted: Kruppe of Darujhistan


Vengeance has been lynched. He was the Guard.


After what I said yesterday this looks like scum trying to point a finger my way and I am convinced Ment is scum.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:19 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 July 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

That's the worst possible outcome for us.

Vote Mentalist


He is scum and a bloody genius.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 07 July 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 11 hours and 17 minutes since time out

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Kruppe of Darujhistan ( Vengeance )
6 Votes for Vengeance ( Messremb, ItWasNom, Andorion, Tattersail, Mentalist, Lady Bliss )
2 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Siergiej )

Players not voted: Kruppe of Darujhistan


Vengeance has been lynched. He was the Guard.


After what I said yesterday this looks like scum trying to point a finger my way and I am convinced Ment is scum.


Elaborate please
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:22 PM

Lol, classic day 1.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM

My genius knows no bounds and my explaining might weaken my vote but I'll try.

Siergiej and I both had a back and forth yesterday about my little one liner about me dying at night. It is true that if Ment was scum he would want me dead. Now why on earth would anyone else who was scum leave me alive after that statement? Surely they kill me and Ment gets lynched today possibly, that's good for scum right? Not if scum is Ment. So what other way to try and kill me could Ment have at his disposal? The lynch. Now who was suspicious of my play day one? Siergiej. Who was the only person voting me? Siergiej. Who got killed?

Colour me paranoid, tell me I am crazy because I seem to believe it.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM

Well fuckity fuck...why didn't he just reveal when it looked obvious that he'd get lynched?

Tatts vote on mental is out of the blue.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:26 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 07 July 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

Lol, classic day 1.


Oh how you can laugh in the face of adversity.

One reason I like you. One of many.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:27 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

My genius knows no bounds and my explaining might weaken my vote but I'll try.

Siergiej and I both had a back and forth yesterday about my little one liner about me dying at night. It is true that if Ment was scum he would want me dead. Now why on earth would anyone else who was scum leave me alive after that statement? Surely they kill me and Ment gets lynched today possibly, that's good for scum right? Not if scum is Ment. So what other way to try and kill me could Ment have at his disposal? The lynch. Now who was suspicious of my play day one? Siergiej. Who was the only person voting me? Siergiej. Who got killed?

Colour me paranoid, tell me I am crazy because I seem to believe it.

That's a whole lot of wifom.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:27 PM

I reckon it's one on, one off the train for the killers, simply based on what most commonly happens at the beginning of games. So two groups:

Mess, Nom, Ando, Tatts, Ment, LB

Kruppe, Khell, Mac

Hmm. With the smaller group of, for me, Mac or Kruppe, I am somewhat tempted to lean toward Kruppe who has added nothing but apparently been around. Will have to look through Mac's posts again though. That was a developing train till it changed to Venge, so perhaps some scum pushing there.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:32 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

My genius knows no bounds and my explaining might weaken my vote but I'll try.

Siergiej and I both had a back and forth yesterday about my little one liner about me dying at night. It is true that if Ment was scum he would want me dead. Now why on earth would anyone else who was scum leave me alive after that statement? Surely they kill me and Ment gets lynched today possibly, that's good for scum right? Not if scum is Ment. So what other way to try and kill me could Ment have at his disposal? The lynch. Now who was suspicious of my play day one? Siergiej. Who was the only person voting me? Siergiej. Who got killed?

Colour me paranoid, tell me I am crazy because I seem to believe it.


Scum also had to take the healer into consideration

Andbut doesn't seem such an obvious choice to me anyway, it wouldn't work that well to frame Ment anymore

And there were more people suspicious of you D1, but most saw you as symp
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:43 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

My genius knows no bounds and my explaining might weaken my vote but I'll try.

Siergiej and I both had a back and forth yesterday about my little one liner about me dying at night. It is true that if Ment was scum he would want me dead. Now why on earth would anyone else who was scum leave me alive after that statement? Surely they kill me and Ment gets lynched today possibly, that's good for scum right? Not if scum is Ment. So what other way to try and kill me could Ment have at his disposal? The lynch. Now who was suspicious of my play day one? Siergiej. Who was the only person voting me? Siergiej. Who got killed?

Colour me paranoid, tell me I am crazy because I seem to believe it.

This is all predicated on you not being scum, of course.

You have any idea how dumb you'd be sounding to anyone who's not a regular here?

I mean your Day 1 comment is so loaded with wifom it's not funny.


"If I die night 1, Ment is scum!"
"Oh, I didn't die night 1! Disregard everything I've said, Ment MUST be scum, because who else would leave me alive when he's been consistently trying to NK me??"

I mean, really. How the fuck am I supposed to make you even consider the suggestion that, y'know, I'm not scum?

I already told you this: your problem is, you pick someone you think SHOULD be scum. Instead of looking at EVERYONE and rooting out who is most likely to be scum based on how they ACTUALLY behave. Instead of how you think they SHOULD be behaving.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:44 PM

Maybe, but it was like a big green light just lit up his name.

Leaving my vote there for now.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:46 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 07 July 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

I reckon it's one on, one off the train for the killers, simply based on what most commonly happens at the beginning of games. So two groups:

Mess, Nom, Ando, Tatts, Ment, LB

Kruppe, Khell, Mac

Hmm. With the smaller group of, for me, Mac or Kruppe, I am somewhat tempted to lean toward Kruppe who has added nothing but apparently been around. Will have to look through Mac's posts again though. That was a developing train till it changed to Venge, so perhaps some scum pushing there.


I never properly understood this one killer on one killer off thing, is that only because they wouldn't want to be tied together by both being on the main train? I wonder if it holds up to statistics from past games. Good way for you to
look like you're contributing with little effort though

You staying away from the lynch like that was convenient
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:46 PM

View PostMentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

My genius knows no bounds and my explaining might weaken my vote but I'll try.

Siergiej and I both had a back and forth yesterday about my little one liner about me dying at night. It is true that if Ment was scum he would want me dead. Now why on earth would anyone else who was scum leave me alive after that statement? Surely they kill me and Ment gets lynched today possibly, that's good for scum right? Not if scum is Ment. So what other way to try and kill me could Ment have at his disposal? The lynch. Now who was suspicious of my play day one? Siergiej. Who was the only person voting me? Siergiej. Who got killed?

Colour me paranoid, tell me I am crazy because I seem to believe it.

This is all predicated on you not being scum, of course.

You have any idea how dumb you'd be sounding to anyone who's not a regular here?

I mean your Day 1 comment is so loaded with wifom it's not funny.


"If I die night 1, Ment is scum!"
"Oh, I didn't die night 1! Disregard everything I've said, Ment MUST be scum, because who else would leave me alive when he's been consistently trying to NK me??"

I mean, really. How the fuck am I supposed to make you even consider the suggestion that, y'know, I'm not scum?

I already told you this: your problem is, you pick someone you think SHOULD be scum. Instead of looking at EVERYONE and rooting out who is most likely to be scum based on how they ACTUALLY behave. Instead of how you think they SHOULD be behaving.


Which I will do but my immediate reaction after seeing Siergiej's death was that you killed him. I wasn't even looking in your direction day one so it is not like I was being tunnel visioned.

Maybe as Bliss says it is too much wifom so I will take another look at day one.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:48 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 07 July 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

I reckon it's one on, one off the train for the killers, simply based on what most commonly happens at the beginning of games. So two groups:

Mess, Nom, Ando, Tatts, Ment, LB

Kruppe, Khell, Mac

Hmm. With the smaller group of, for me, Mac or Kruppe, I am somewhat tempted to lean toward Kruppe who has added nothing but apparently been around. Will have to look through Mac's posts again though. That was a developing train till it changed to Venge, so perhaps some scum pushing there.


I would really like to hear more from Kruppe as well. Mac was particularly bothering me yesterday so I'll need to reread now that we know Venge was the guard.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:56 PM

It is Day 2. 34 hours and 52 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mentalist ( Tattersail )

Players not voted: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 03:11 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 07 July 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 07 July 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

I reckon it's one on, one off the train for the killers, simply based on what most commonly happens at the beginning of games. So two groups:

Mess, Nom, Ando, Tatts, Ment, LB

Kruppe, Khell, Mac

Hmm. With the smaller group of, for me, Mac or Kruppe, I am somewhat tempted to lean toward Kruppe who has added nothing but apparently been around. Will have to look through Mac's posts again though. That was a developing train till it changed to Venge, so perhaps some scum pushing there.


I never properly understood this one killer on one killer off thing, is that only because they wouldn't want to be tied together by both being on the main train? I wonder if it holds up to statistics from past games. Good way for you to
look like you're contributing with little effort though

You staying away from the lynch like that was convenient



Go have a look back at past games, I'm sure the statistics will bear me out (of course, statistics are always open to interpretation :) ).


And no, me staying off the train was sensible. And I said why it was sensible yesterday.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 03:13 PM

Gonna be busy for the next few hours.

I agree with pretty much everyone that Kruppe really needs to step up. He's been a non-entity so far. Very silencer-esque.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 04:55 PM

Well this was the worst thing that could have happened.

I need to take a long hard look at my decisions, unfortunately far too sleepy today.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 04:58 PM

View PostAndorion, on 07 July 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Well this was the worst thing that could have happened.

I need to take a long hard look at my decisions, unfortunately far too sleepy today.



Yes, best wait for others to pitch in first and then see what you can do with that. And Andorion edges closer to the scum side.
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