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Mafia 144.5 - Unalted M&P Game Thread

#181 User is offline   Messremb 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 08:11 PM

Alternatively, Venge could just play in an alt if it is that much of an issue for him. It's not like anyone deliberately made all the game alts sign in anon did they? Oh wait...

Anyway, I lurk all the time. Just assume I'm there.
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#182 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:19 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Oh FYI you guys can't lurk on the thread and not post when I am playing. Being an admin I see everyone who is logged on. Kruppe I am specifically talking about you.


I get that you can't easily undo it so you couldn't see it but nothing forces you to talk about it, this is abuse of your admin powers


I mean this post.

It's (imo) a massive over reaction on your part accusing venge of abusing his position when he's coming out and telling everyone what he knows and we don't because of his administration position.
He has inadvertently gained information that no one else has. He has levelled the playing field by sharing it.
I would say using that information and noto letting us know is more of an abuse of admin position
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#183 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:20 PM

I'm home, finally, and intend another skim through before bed
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#184 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:23 PM

And since it's been brought out that he is one thread, and only has 1 post. I'd like to hear from Kruppe.
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#185 User is offline   Mentalist 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:23 PM

Okay, heading home, but got a couple of errands to run on the way. Timeout is @ 10 30ish my time, so I'll vote once home, but for anyone planning to go to bed, I'm currently leaning towards voting Venge, because that train seems to have least strings attached to it.

Okay, back later. The thread's still open on my phone, but my signal will be on and off, so expect to see me "lurking" , :)
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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#186 User is offline   Itwęs Nom 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:32 PM

View PostMacros, on 06 July 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Oh FYI you guys can't lurk on the thread and not post when I am playing. Being an admin I see everyone who is logged on. Kruppe I am specifically talking about you.


I get that you can't easily undo it so you couldn't see it but nothing forces you to talk about it, this is abuse of your admin powers


I mean this post.

It's (imo) a massive over reaction on your part accusing venge of abusing his position when he's coming out and telling everyone what he knows and we don't because of his administration position.
He has inadvertently gained information that no one else has. He has levelled the playing field by sharing it.
I would say using that information and noto letting us know is more of an abuse of admin position


There still was this:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

RULES

All players must:

A2) Log in and view the thread and the discussion board anonymously at all times, unless they have informed the mods that this is not possible for technical reasons.


I believe what this rule is trying to achieve is for anyone to have the chance to watch the thread completely anonymously, if everyone except for scum decided they do not want to log in anonymously it would be obvious who the lurkers are, hence why all players are supposed to view the thread anonymously. And that was violated.

Also

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

RULES

Players must not:

B7) Post information on the thread relating to another player's past or current activity on (or absence from) the board that would not otherwise be available to anybody reading the thread.

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#187 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:36 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

View PostMacros, on 06 July 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Oh FYI you guys can't lurk on the thread and not post when I am playing. Being an admin I see everyone who is logged on. Kruppe I am specifically talking about you.


I get that you can't easily undo it so you couldn't see it but nothing forces you to talk about it, this is abuse of your admin powers


I mean this post.

It's (imo) a massive over reaction on your part accusing venge of abusing his position when he's coming out and telling everyone what he knows and we don't because of his administration position.
He has inadvertently gained information that no one else has. He has levelled the playing field by sharing it.
I would say using that information and noto letting us know is more of an abuse of admin position


There still was this:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

RULES

All players must:

A2) Log in and view the thread and the discussion board anonymously at all times, unless they have informed the mods that this is not possible for technical reasons.


I believe what this rule is trying to achieve is for anyone to have the chance to watch the thread completely anonymously, if everyone except for scum decided they do not want to log in anonymously it would be obvious who the lurkers are, hence why all players are supposed to view the thread anonymously. And that was violated.

Also

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

RULES

Players must not:

B7) Post information on the thread relating to another player's past or current activity on (or absence from) the board that would not otherwise be available to anybody reading the thread.




Daaaaamn, rule pwned. Nom's going to get himself modkilled for showing up both PS and an admin :)
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#188 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:40 PM

Left tab open on phone but I have been playing Witcher 3.

Early on Venge/Ment go at it. Even vote for each other.

Mac comes along days something like nothing to see here.

Some time goes by and he votes elsewhere but again doesn't comment on Venge/Ment spat.

Distancing and playing down something. So I was thinking related to one of those players.

Venge takes my calling out of Mac as potential symp worthy abd votes for Mac but when I vote for Mac, Venge removes vote. Now although that seems a bit weird he then goes a bit crazy and starts voting other people for various things.

Now something is wrong with his play and I think it's because Ment highlighted him early. If Mac isn't up for being lynched then I certainly would vote Venge.

remove vote

Vote Vengeance

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#189 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:42 PM

Haha Khell.

Nom are you stoned? You're cracking me up.

I am off to bed and I am happy with my vote.
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#190 User is offline   Itwęs Nom 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:45 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 July 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:


Nom are you stoned? You're cracking me up.



Yeah, as usually
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#191 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:46 PM

Oh please, that rule is clearly meant for RL interactions. Venge was keeping in line by declaring, I stand by that interpretation of the rules.

Commencing skim r3ad
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#192 User is offline   Itwęs Nom 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:52 PM

View PostMacros, on 06 July 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

Oh please, that rule is clearly meant for RL interactions. Venge was keeping in line by declaring, I stand by that interpretation of the rules.

Commencing skim r3ad


Initially, maybe. But the rule clearly states it's any information that would not be avaiable to anybody reading the thread and this was perfect example of that.

I have to look up something from some previous game
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#193 User is offline   Lady Bliss 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:05 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Let's just solve this right now.

This game is to be played naked. That means that you should NOT log in as anonymous for this game.


PS
already posted this amendment to the rules. So why are we still arguing?
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#194 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:07 PM

View PostLady Bliss, on 06 July 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Let's just solve this right now.

This game is to be played naked. That means that you should NOT log in as anonymous for this game.


PS
already posted this amendment to the rules. So why are we still arguing?


Because it's day 1 and debating rules constitutes 'contribution'?
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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:08 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 06 July 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

Left tab open on phone but I have been playing Witcher 3.

Early on Venge/Ment go at it. Even vote for each other.

Mac comes along days something like nothing to see here.

Some time goes by and he votes elsewhere but again doesn't comment on Venge/Ment spat.

Distancing and playing down something. So I was thinking related to one of those players.

Venge takes my calling out of Mac as potential symp worthy abd votes for Mac but when I vote for Mac, Venge removes vote. Now although that seems a bit weird he then goes a bit crazy and starts voting other people for various things.

Now something is wrong with his play and I think it's because Ment highlighted him early. If Mac isn't up for being lynched then I certainly would vote Venge.

remove vote

Vote Vengeance




I've just been playing Witcher 3 too! So good!

If Mac isn't up for being lynched? Okay, just take it as read when you lot inevitably turn to a discussion of lynching me that I am also not up for it and so just move on to the next victim :)
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#196 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:11 PM

Venge has been too jumpy for me to currently consider him a killer. He's been like that from pretty much the start rather than because any particular pressure came his way - in fact, the votes on him now seem a result of that jumpiness, not vice versa.
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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:12 PM

I'm going to bed, I'm leaving my vote on Mess.

Because of what I perceive as resistance that bounded out when I pushed a vote on him, and how Mess has sorted of drifted into the shadows as the focus on him started to disapate, a few lol and other non posts while admitting that he be's lurking on the thread. Feeling like it's coasting unail another lynch happens or attention has fully left him.

There was a post from ment (?) I think know on page 3/4 that caught my eye though. Going to go quote it before lights out so it doesn't slide under the radad
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#198 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:13 PM

View PostMentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

woops, my bad, Mess is actually pointing at khell symping away from Venge. That's what I get for not bothering to check previous page and writing a post before a vote-count. :)

I need caffeine. I missed my stop in the subway today and went 3 extra stops before waking up.

Still, there's some possible connections shaping up around Venge and around Mac, so this may be worth following.



This one, it's the kind of 'oh my bad lol' post that I like to pick at.

I think venge or khell? Has one as well, taking a quick look for it
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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:14 PM

How much time do we have left on the clock?
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#200 User is offline   Macros 

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:17 PM

View PostVengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Then you say that you and Mess are on the same page.


He told that to me. That's second time you missed/misread something already.


I am playing from work and trying to get a couple of posts in before I get busy. It happens.

I did missread this one. I complete missed that Khell had posted earlier. Mainly cause spammy magees posted right after him and covered it up. But alas my point still stands. Tatts is playing the symp and trying to get his boss to engage in an early pissing contest so that he won't stand out later. The person who he keeps pressuring is Maccy.

Thus my vote.



This one, not as much lol my bad as meets but it's the second misread in the game for him apparently. To tired to go verify andos claim on the two, but venge didn't seem to debate it. Possibly aware he has slipped and isee trying to sweep it.
Hmm, Im swaying a little
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