[Path-Shaper]

Is this right?

It is Day 7 with 3 hours 8 minutes remaining.

There are 6 players still alive: ( Rashan, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Lock,Merrid)

4 votes to lynch 3 to go night
1 vote Jalan (Galain)
1 vote Rashan (Kilava)
1 vote night (Lock)

Players not voted: (Rashan, Jalan, Merrid)

[Kilava]

Path-Shaper, on 20 June 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Is this right?

It is Day 7 with 3 hours 8 minutes remaining.

There are 6 players still alive: ( Rashan, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Lock,Merrid)

4 votes to lynch 3 to go night
1 vote Jalan (Galain)
1 vote Rashan (Kilava)
1 vote night (Lock)

Players not voted: (Rashan, Jalan, Merrid)

Time left and votes cast look kosher to me.

[Galain]

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Jalan, on 20 June 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Kilava, for someone saying they'd follow Lock and Merrid, you're not really doing a great job of that at the moment.

As far as your vote on me goes Galain, I'm going to pretend it makes sense. If I were a vamp wouldn't it make more sense for me to stall that lynch over providing the hammer to increase a potential recruit-pool for the vamp leader? Which is where Kilava is getting hung up on Rashy here. Rashy had no reason not to hammer, but let it ride into the last hour of the game when there really shouldn't have been another player that could have secured that lynch.

Have yet to hear from Merrid, so I'm leaving my Rashan vote until Merrid agrees or disagrees with Lock to vote night.

The rest of your post is spot on, IMO. If you were a vampire you wouldn't have hammered with only a half hour remaining.

Except that Jalan was around at end of day, so it would have looked pretty odd if they hadn't voted. I'm thinking it was a tactic designed to do exactly the job which you now appear to believe, Kilava. In any case, it's not just about that, but their play even before then had come off as very careful.

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

That reminds that I still haven't read that part I was supposed to catch up on, I think

How much time was there left on the clock when I said I will hammer if needed? I thought there was a couple hours and didn't wanna cut them

Less than 2 hours I think.

[Kilava]

Galain, on 20 June 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Jalan, on 20 June 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Kilava, for someone saying they'd follow Lock and Merrid, you're not really doing a great job of that at the moment.

As far as your vote on me goes Galain, I'm going to pretend it makes sense. If I were a vamp wouldn't it make more sense for me to stall that lynch over providing the hammer to increase a potential recruit-pool for the vamp leader? Which is where Kilava is getting hung up on Rashy here. Rashy had no reason not to hammer, but let it ride into the last hour of the game when there really shouldn't have been another player that could have secured that lynch.

Have yet to hear from Merrid, so I'm leaving my Rashan vote until Merrid agrees or disagrees with Lock to vote night.

The rest of your post is spot on, IMO. If you were a vampire you wouldn't have hammered with only a half hour remaining.

Except that Jalan was around at end of day, so it would have looked pretty odd if they hadn't voted. I'm thinking it was a tactic designed to do exactly the job which you now appear to believe, Kilava. In any case, it's not just about that, but their play even before then had come off as very careful.

One post with 47 minutes left and a hammer with about 34 minutes left. My point is that Jalan as vampire wouldn't have posted at all, nevermind not hammering.

[Kilava]

Make that Jalan as vampire needn't have posted at all, as well as being disinclined to hammer. But hammer he did.

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 June 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Jalan, on 20 June 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Kilava, for someone saying they'd follow Lock and Merrid, you're not really doing a great job of that at the moment.

As far as your vote on me goes Galain, I'm going to pretend it makes sense. If I were a vamp wouldn't it make more sense for me to stall that lynch over providing the hammer to increase a potential recruit-pool for the vamp leader? Which is where Kilava is getting hung up on Rashy here. Rashy had no reason not to hammer, but let it ride into the last hour of the game when there really shouldn't have been another player that could have secured that lynch.

Have yet to hear from Merrid, so I'm leaving my Rashan vote until Merrid agrees or disagrees with Lock to vote night.

The rest of your post is spot on, IMO. If you were a vampire you wouldn't have hammered with only a half hour remaining.

Except that Jalan was around at end of day, so it would have looked pretty odd if they hadn't voted. I'm thinking it was a tactic designed to do exactly the job which you now appear to believe, Kilava. In any case, it's not just about that, but their play even before then had come off as very careful.

One post with 47 minutes left and a hammer with about 34 minutes left. My point is that Jalan as vampire wouldn't have posted at all, nevermind not hammering.

Because nothing like that has ever happened in mafia

[Rashan]

Thyr was pretty set on supporting Nimander too btw

[Kilava]

If Jalan wasn't a vampire from the start, what incentive would there be for vampires to recruit him when he spent the majority of the game not here at all? And his activity hasn't spiked at any point either. He was and remains a disinterested human, IMO.

That leaves Galain, me, and Rashan. Galain's play seems consistent and I know who I am. Leaving Rashan and his dubious action/inaction.

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

If Jalan wasn't a vampire from the start, what incentive would there be for vampires to recruit him when he spent the majority of the game not here at all? And his activity hasn't spiked at any point either. He was and remains a disinterested human, IMO.

That leaves Galain, me, and Rashan. Galain's play seems consistent and I know who I am. Leaving Rashan and his dubious action/inaction.

It would be easier for him not to alter his playstyle upon recruitment for example

Although I can see people suspecting he was some role, possibly Buffy before the reveals - which would probably play in your favour because RP. Post-reveal is something else as he'd be way less likely to have RP but that's not what we're talking about.

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 June 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Jalan, on 20 June 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

Kilava, for someone saying they'd follow Lock and Merrid, you're not really doing a great job of that at the moment.

As far as your vote on me goes Galain, I'm going to pretend it makes sense. If I were a vamp wouldn't it make more sense for me to stall that lynch over providing the hammer to increase a potential recruit-pool for the vamp leader? Which is where Kilava is getting hung up on Rashy here. Rashy had no reason not to hammer, but let it ride into the last hour of the game when there really shouldn't have been another player that could have secured that lynch.

Have yet to hear from Merrid, so I'm leaving my Rashan vote until Merrid agrees or disagrees with Lock to vote night.

The rest of your post is spot on, IMO. If you were a vampire you wouldn't have hammered with only a half hour remaining.

Except that Jalan was around at end of day, so it would have looked pretty odd if they hadn't voted. I'm thinking it was a tactic designed to do exactly the job which you now appear to believe, Kilava. In any case, it's not just about that, but their play even before then had come off as very careful.

One post with 47 minutes left and a hammer with about 34 minutes left. My point is that Jalan as vampire wouldn't have posted at all, nevermind not hammering.

Because nothing like that has ever happened in mafia

This is the second time that phrase has been used in this game. Curiously enough, the first time, Nimander the vampire said it.


EDIT: Fixed underline tags.

This post has been edited by Kilava: 20 June 2017 - 04:39 PM

[Merrid]

I have to say I find Rashan the most suspicious at the moment

[Rashan]

Haha, I'd say that it has nothing to do with anything in reality but I can see myself pointing it out too if I noticed it and wasn't included in it

Perhaps the phrase is more common in Slavic languages *shrug*

Anyway I don't recall Nimander saying it so quote please

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Haha, I'd say that it has nothing to do with anything in reality but I can see myself pointing it out too if I noticed it and wasn't included in it

Perhaps the phrase is more common in Slavic languages *shrug*

Anyway I don't recall Nimander saying it so quote please

I can't find it, though I could have sworn Nimander said it. I know I've read that somewhere in the last few days. Maybe it was in the Mafia Universe game I continued to follow (Town won, BTW). Anyway, I withdraw that particular accusation.

[Merrid]

So I went and looked it up and unless I am mistaken (I could be, long day, very sleepy) Nim sat at L1 for over 6 hours until Jalan hammered with a few minutes left.

Now Jalan I can understand. Maybe he was hesitant and this Nim issue had gotten pretty controversial.

Rashan however did not even try. Which makes him a bit suspicious.

I should take another look at Nim's attitude to Rashan.

[Jalan]

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Haha, I'd say that it has nothing to do with anything in reality but I can see myself pointing it out too if I noticed it and wasn't included in it

Perhaps the phrase is more common in Slavic languages *shrug*

Anyway I don't recall Nimander saying it so quote please

I can't find it, though I could have sworn Nimander said it. I know I've read that somewhere in the last few days. Maybe it was in the Mafia Universe game I continued to follow (Town won, BTW). Anyway, I withdraw that particular accusation.

I'll support the lynch for stalling during a stated recruitment game, though I'd feel better about this if Lock were in support.

Lock, do you still object?

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Haha, I'd say that it has nothing to do with anything in reality but I can see myself pointing it out too if I noticed it and wasn't included in it

Perhaps the phrase is more common in Slavic languages *shrug*

Anyway I don't recall Nimander saying it so quote please

I can't find it, though I could have sworn Nimander said it. I know I've read that somewhere in the last few days. Maybe it was in the Mafia Universe game I continued to follow (Town won, BTW). Anyway, I withdraw that particular accusation.

Yeah that will be it, someone said it there

(you the guy who posted there with the weird name?)

[Kilava]

HA! Found it!

Nimander Golit, on 14 June 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

Lol, go ahead, speed-lynch me. Never in the history of Malazan Mafia this has proven to be stupid

Not word for word, but the spirit of the remark is identical.

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 05:33 PM, said:

HA! Found it!

Nimander Golit, on 14 June 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

Lol, go ahead, speed-lynch me. Never in the history of Malazan Mafia this has proven to be stupid

Not word for word, but the spirit of the remark is identical.

No the spirit is decidedly not, just the wording

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Kilava, on 20 June 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

Rashan, on 20 June 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Haha, I'd say that it has nothing to do with anything in reality but I can see myself pointing it out too if I noticed it and wasn't included in it

Perhaps the phrase is more common in Slavic languages *shrug*

Anyway I don't recall Nimander saying it so quote please

I can't find it, though I could have sworn Nimander said it. I know I've read that somewhere in the last few days. Maybe it was in the Mafia Universe game I continued to follow (Town won, BTW). Anyway, I withdraw that particular accusation.

Yeah that will be it, someone said it there

(you the guy who posted there with the weird name?)

belovedklowny. Yeah, that was me. They jumped on me for calling Quick the jerk a jerk.

But I found the Nimander quote I was looking for.