[Jalan]

^^ outside myself, of course.

[Kilava]

Jalan, on 17 June 2017 - 03:47 AM, said:

You and I do agree on something though, there are only two player's motives that seemed clear at the moment, and those were Merrid and Lock really wanting Nim dead as a member of an enemy faction. As of this moment those are the only two players that I (mostly) trust to still be human.

Unless one or the other got recruited last night after they had successfully lynched Nim...

UGH...

[Kilava]

Which is another reason to vote night, not trust any lynch trains, and let the onus be on Buffy.

[Rashan]

If there still was some kinda recruiter it'd not be a good idea to go to night

[Rashan]

Assuming Buffy has to find a vampire one night and kill it the next night

[Jalan]

Kilava, on 17 June 2017 - 04:41 AM, said:

Jalan, on 17 June 2017 - 03:47 AM, said:

You and I do agree on something though, there are only two player's motives that seemed clear at the moment, and those were Merrid and Lock really wanting Nim dead as a member of an enemy faction. As of this moment those are the only two players that I (mostly) trust to still be human.

Unless one or the other got recruited last night after they had successfully lynched Nim...

UGH...

Thus the (mostly).

[Jalan]

Rashan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

Assuming Buffy has to find a vampire one night and kill it the next night

I haven't seen anything in the kill pattern that hints towards anything different.

Also, how is the hangover treating you?

[Rashan]

Jalan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:21 AM, said:

Rashan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

Assuming Buffy has to find a vampire one night and kill it the next night

I haven't seen anything in the kill pattern that hints towards anything different.

Also, how is the hangover treating you?

I'm completely fine actually, just a little sleepy

And I've walked about 8 kilometres in the last 2.5 hours but I'm almost home now

[Jalan]

Rashan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

Jalan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:21 AM, said:

Rashan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

Assuming Buffy has to find a vampire one night and kill it the next night

I haven't seen anything in the kill pattern that hints towards anything different.

Also, how is the hangover treating you?

I'm completely fine actually, just a little sleepy

And I've walked about 8 kilometres in the last 2.5 hours but I'm almost home now

Goddamn kids! Not even having the decency to pretend to have earned a hangover like three rest of us old men!

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

And I've walked about 8 kilometres in the last 2.5 hours but I'm almost home now

Were you on your hands and knees? Should be able to do over 11k in 2.5 hours. Unless you're climbing mountains and/or traversing impenetrable jungle, neither of which occur (to my knowledge) in Czechistan.

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 18 June 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

Rashan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

And I've walked about 8 kilometres in the last 2.5 hours but I'm almost home now

Were you on your hands and knees? Should be able to do over 11k in 2.5 hours. Unless you're climbing mountains and/or traversing impenetrable jungle, neither of which occur (to my knowledge) in Czechistan.

I spent around 45mins waiting for and then going by train. 6.5km of what we walked was on forest roads over hills and we had spare time so we walked pretty slowly. And I didn't particularly rush my 2.5km long walk home either.
I'm usually fast walker though.

[Path-Shaper]

Day will resume in approximately 12 minutes at 8 AM pst. I'll do a proper update when I get to the office.

[Kilava]

Jalan, on 17 June 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 17 June 2017 - 04:41 AM, said:

Jalan, on 17 June 2017 - 03:47 AM, said:

You and I do agree on something though, there are only two player's motives that seemed clear at the moment, and those were Merrid and Lock really wanting Nim dead as a member of an enemy faction. As of this moment those are the only two players that I (mostly) trust to still be human.

Unless one or the other got recruited last night after they had successfully lynched Nim...

UGH...

Thus the (mostly).

One or the other is Recruit proof, IMO. If recruiting is still a "thing," vamps will have to look elsewhere for the duration.

I can't imagine a BP having lasted this long, which is further evidence IMO that the vamp NK power is kaput.

[Rashan]

Did the last day occur right after the night that Spike was killed on? I suspect there was atleast one not-lynch day, will check that later, but if not, even if it was so, and we were to assume that the currently living vampire was already a vampire on the day of Lock's reveal and Nim's counter reveal, then Kilava seems to be the only one of the living players who didn't prefer a Nimander lynch. Possibly with the exception of probably mostly at the time absent Jalan, and me.

[Rashan]

Bliss is your office somewhere where you were supposed to fly to but instead decided to drive?

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 19 June 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Did the last day occur right after the night that Spike was killed on? I suspect there was atleast one not-lynch day, will check that later, but if not, even if it was so, and we were to assume that the currently living vampire was already a vampire on the day of Lock's reveal and Nim's counter reveal, then Kilava seems to be the only one of the living players who didn't prefer a Nimander lynch. Possibly with the exception of probably mostly at the time absent Jalan, and me.

that at the time

Day 1 was no lynch and day 5 was no lynch.

I assume that at the time of Nim's lynch there was only one other vampire, who, with no proof of this at all mind you, was a recruit. That surviving vampire, if he has the ability to recruit, recruited someone last night (night 6).

Yes, that surviving vampire is (almost definitely) either me, Jalan, Galain, or Rashan. Being Lock or Merrid is way too unlikely to be seriously considered.

Now, if the vampire that almost surely hides among me, Jalan, Galain and Rashan recruited last night (if recruitment is still possible), that recruit would also be among we four - me, Jalan, Galain and Rashan. It only makes sense to recruit one of us, because trying to recruit Lock or Merrid would be a 50-50 gamble if one of them is recruitment proof, which is admittedly speculation, but it's speculation I'm pretty confident about.

I'm trying to say more but I don't know how to phrase it. Not because I know more, because I don't. Just because it gets too complicated by the fact that we don't know if we're now dealing with one or two vamps.

Regardless, as of this moment, IMO there's definitely a vampire in the Kilava, Jalan, Galain, Rashan mix. Maybe two.

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 15 June 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

Merrid, on 15 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 June 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Merrid, on 15 June 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 15 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 June 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

There's a good 12+ hours left in the day.

Need more from Jalan. A modkill warning should prompt participation, not just "here I am to avoid a modkill. See you in another 36."

I think your math might be off. Depending on whether PS update was mistaken or correct, we're like 3 or 30 hours from timeout.

To more important matters: I'm bloody sure we should be lynching Lock. Jalan is a total deadweight though and keeping him around is less than ideal, so if there's a push that way, I will vote there too.

As for me, well, it's all on thread. The whole case on me was built on Lock's accusation which is simply impossible. If that doesn't convince you, nothing will, so there's no point in further debate.

Actually I have found a way that the accusation against you can be true and possible.

Lets say we start off with 2 vamps, Spike and Drusilla.

Lets say they have an alternating kill/recruit NA.

They recruit on Night 1, no deaths.

Night 2 Drusilla dies, no NA, with the kill the recruit inherits the power.

Night 3 the recruit kills, which is spotted by Lock.

And so, yeah, you can be a vampire and killer.

Spike was the inheritor of the kill power. Of course, I can't be sure of that, but I have my reasons for thinking that.

And two vampires to start seems too low in a 12 player game.

How do you know this? Please clarify.

As to the Spike inheritance, I can't clarify due to the non-reveal clause in the rules. But it's what I'm led to believe and what makes sense to me.

I was just going back to see which day was which but this caught my eye, and it's probably just one of many similar posts

As an RI that you kinda claimed to be, what the hell are the rules holding you from revealing here? There's nothing wrong with revealing your beliefs if they are not really based on anything afaik, which they cannot if you don't have a role.

I find it hard to believe you would overkill listening to the rules this much if you really wanted to help with all the mysterious stuff you post. Or you're lying about having no role. Or you're lying about all the crap. However it is I have trouble seeing an option where you're honest.

[Path-Shaper]

Did anyone vote?

It is Day 7 with 29 hours 14 minutes remaining.

There are 6 players still alive: ( Rashan, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Lock,Merrid)

4 votes to lynch 3 to go night


Players not voted: (Rashan, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Lock,Merrid)

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 19 June 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 June 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

Merrid, on 15 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 June 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Merrid, on 15 June 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 15 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

Kilava, on 15 June 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

There's a good 12+ hours left in the day.

Need more from Jalan. A modkill warning should prompt participation, not just "here I am to avoid a modkill. See you in another 36."

I think your math might be off. Depending on whether PS update was mistaken or correct, we're like 3 or 30 hours from timeout.

To more important matters: I'm bloody sure we should be lynching Lock. Jalan is a total deadweight though and keeping him around is less than ideal, so if there's a push that way, I will vote there too.

As for me, well, it's all on thread. The whole case on me was built on Lock's accusation which is simply impossible. If that doesn't convince you, nothing will, so there's no point in further debate.

Actually I have found a way that the accusation against you can be true and possible.

Lets say we start off with 2 vamps, Spike and Drusilla.

Lets say they have an alternating kill/recruit NA.

They recruit on Night 1, no deaths.

Night 2 Drusilla dies, no NA, with the kill the recruit inherits the power.

Night 3 the recruit kills, which is spotted by Lock.

And so, yeah, you can be a vampire and killer.

Spike was the inheritor of the kill power. Of course, I can't be sure of that, but I have my reasons for thinking that.

And two vampires to start seems too low in a 12 player game.

How do you know this? Please clarify.

As to the Spike inheritance, I can't clarify due to the non-reveal clause in the rules. But it's what I'm led to believe and what makes sense to me.

I was just going back to see which day was which but this caught my eye, and it's probably just one of many similar posts

As an RI that you kinda claimed to be, what the hell are the rules holding you from revealing here? There's nothing wrong with revealing your beliefs if they are not really based on anything afaik, which they cannot if you don't have a role.

I find it hard to believe you would overkill listening to the rules this much if you really wanted to help with all the mysterious stuff you post. Or you're lying about having no role. Or you're lying about all the crap. However it is I have trouble seeing an option where you're honest.

I've thought about the possibility that I'm "overkilling listening to the rules." I haven't consulted with P-S about this aspect and maybe I should have/still should.

Okay, try this: I have said several times that "I have no no night abilities...yet." Now put that statement together with my claim that "Spike inherited the night kill ability from Drusilla." Now assume for a moment that I'm not a vampire.

Is that explicit enough for you?

Also, before I was distracted by the need to make this reply I saw something interesting on page one. I'll get to it in my next post.

[Kilava]

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

Angel:
We need to distract the vampires.

Buffy:
Right.

Angel:
What are you gonna do?

Buffy:
I'm gonna kill them all. That oughta distract 'em.

If this is flavour and it can be assumed to tell me something about the game then it's telling me that Angel is among us. Having looked at the first Buffy game it's also telling me that I can now trust that neither Lock nor Merrid is a vampire and that neither one of them can become a vampire. Ever.

I'm going to follow those two through the gates of Hell.