[Galain]

Kilava, on 11 May 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Kilava, on 11 May 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Those who were conspicuously unavailable during the drama are far more suspicious than those on center stage.

Hmm, sounds familiar, almost like someone said this back on day 1

Interestingly, though, it doesn't quite apply to how Silchas played - though I suppose they unwillingly got roped in further.

Obviously.

And there was a world of difference between SR's activity and Merrid's.

Obviously.

Mine was more a comparison of Silchas' and Jalan's play styles - if we're expecting scum not to get involved overmuch in day 1 than Jalan fits that (while Merrid does not). My caveat to that argument is that Silchas, who was scum, DID get involved, so belies expectations - but as I said, there were mitigating factors to that that forced their involvement.

[Galain]

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 05:24 PM, said:

Busy morning. In and out, but I have been trying to catch up on reading.

To address Rashan's points, all very astute. All I can say is that originally my Denul comment was made very early on and in passing (if you read it in context, I was doing a first read and noting things that stood out). As for the Kilava case, I was already looking at Kilava long before SR had any semblance of a train, and in the end, I stuck with my case on Kilava not seeing much in the SR case (which of course I was way wrong about).

As for the case on Merrid, I am not sure Rashan why you wouldn't think Merrid would be ballsy enough or smart enough to jump on the train at that point. With it taking only 6 to lynch and with the heat SR was receiving, it was going to take quite a push to remove said interest from SR; so, it makes sense for scum to jump on at that point. Moreover, I still wanted questions answered on Kilava, even if SR was to be lynched, hence me staying where I was and offering to hammer, even though the direction of the lynch was obvious and certain.

For now, I am adding my vote to Merrid, though I still need to continue my read from Galain onward. Maybe end of day today, but I am ramping up to give a presentation tomorrow.

Vote Merrid

This, I agree with Rashan, is a strange vote.

I see Kilava symping Merrid, quite a lot, is he doing it on purpose so we look there and away from Amp?

[Galain]

So if Kilava is NOT SCUM, then he has voiced his opinion on who he will not vote, Ampelas and Merrid. Yet today he is voting Ampelas. This leads me to believe he is not Ampelas' symp.

Kilava, on 11 May 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

About halfway through the read, I feel fairly comfortable in saying I won't be voting for Rashan or Ampelas. They both voiced suspicion of Silchas without prodding. Rashan was the first with Nim to talk about Silchas' second vote on Nim (and then vote them for that). Ampelas even added something previously unmentioned in suggesting a possible signal between Denul and Silchas. Even if that turns out to be wrong, the point is that Ampelas worked to add further suspicion on to Silchas.


As for Galain, this does look really really bad for them on a second read:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Rashan, on 09 May 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Rashan, on 09 May 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

So having read up I think we should believe Nim's reveal. I think Bodyguard should stay hidden and that we should lynch Osseric. He's my number one suspect, too much happening on thread for a post like his.

No comment on SR's behaviour? Hmmm

vote SR

Good morning everyone

Not yet no. Other people are doing that. Are you asking me for my opinion on SR? Your post could easily have said, no comment on Kilava's behaviour, or no comment on Rashan's behaviour (I am aware you are Rashan ), so what makes you think SR is more important for me to look at than Osseric?

He has a vote on him. I was leaning towards voting him in my breakdown of the game so far yesterday. he voted a revealed healer . Are none of these things worthy of a comment at the end of a re-read?

I am not saying they are not. I do not want my Osseric vote watered down so that he can escape without pressure.

Now you are asking me to comment,

The impression I got from Silchas' back and forth with Nimander was tongue in cheek. Jokey. Do I expect SR to leave his vote on Nimander, no. Do I think scum would add a train vote to a suspected healer? No. Do I take his vote as serious? No.

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Or I just found it funny

This game's supposed to be fun too

This kind of game is for people that find scumhunting "fun".

Not being boorish louts.

That's rather unflattering

Vote Nimander

Just went back, and this just looks like a piss contest.

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

Merrid might be stubborn town


The way Silchas slinked onto my wagon was terrible.

remove vote

vote Silchas Ruin

My feet just hurt, sorry

Nah, I don't see it as scummy, jokey over scummy.

I'd prefer to vote the sensible ones. I don't think we'll find scum hiding in the SR alt, but what do I know.

[Galain]

Okay Merrid voted and I was still up. Jalan and Osseric where not around when Merrid voted. Definitely would have needed Kilava, Myself and Amp to vote for SR. So possible.

Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2017 - 07:17 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 15 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Ampelas, Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Rashan, Silchas Ruin

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Osseric ( Galain )
2 Votes for Kilava ( Silchas Ruin, Ampelas )
3 Votes for Silchas Ruin ( Rashan, Nimander Golit, Merrid )
1 Vote for Galain ( Kilava )
1 Vote for Merrid ( Denul )

Players not voted: Jalan, Osseric

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

I'll be heading to bed soonish. Probably around 40 minutes. Maybe Osseric is scum but with little to no links. What are the main reasons for Kilava and SR.

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

I am not switching. I think Osseric is best case presented. I hope we get a lynch but the cases on SR and Kilava I don't believe in. Maybe they are scum but I'd need something better than smooth play or joke voting.

Kilava, on 09 May 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

Alrighty.

Vote Silchas Ruin

Osseric, on 10 May 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Ok back home and I haven't changed my mind.

vote Silchas

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

I am around to hammer if needed. I want to still hear from Rashan though.

Jalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:02 AM, said:

Alright guys, I'm here. Had corporate visitation at work today, so I wasn't able to be on any earlier. I'm going back to the very beginning, and I should be mostly free to be around until timeout.

Okay, Merrid's vote look quite solid.

[Galain]

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

BG, I want you alive.

If you agree with me about Galain, claim today. If you're countered, it would have to be by the last killing scum to have any shot at success.

So, even if you lose a claim war, it would out the last killer and win the game.

Why couldn't the symp claim with any chance at success?

Still irks me that Merrid kind of wants the symp to reveal.

To me, if I was scum, the symp HAD to counter reveal. Had to because now we have two CI's. If the symp is dead then it is game over for scum.

[Galain]

You know what fuck it, I am not looking for clues as you don't read my posts anyway. This is the way I see it. The killer HAS to kill tonight to reach parity if the symp is alive.

Vote Ampelas


I am mixed bag on Merrid at the moment, their lynch position on SR is good. I feel like they have not played a good town game, but are quite ballsy with their continuing battle with Nim. It is only Kilava's remarks that are pointing me at Merrid to be fair.

Kilava has avoided suspicion from me as killer as much as he has everyone else but if he is then he 100% does not have a symp alive because Merrid and Amp are certainly not symps.

Ampelas was not on the SR train, he has been present throughout the game without imposing his will on thread. His push on Kilava day one was okay but his subsequent vote on Merrid day two was bizarre.

Anyway, let the eggs fall as they lie or let the chips fall where they may.

[Kilava]

I read your posts Galain. Problem is that it's difficult to read them without associating ulterior motives due to how you've played (plus many of them are questioning my own motives).

Bit more explanation on Merrid: Initially I suspected them because of their position on the lynch train. And you are correct that they have not had the greatest town game, probably spending too much time and effort haranguing Nim when it's pointless. Essentially, rereads changed my mind on Merrid. That kind of play also stands out dramatically. And they were the pivot point of SR's lynch in terms of actual votes. A good place to hide but also the place where your odds of dooming your partner increase tenfold. As I said a while back, if they're scum, then they have played the outraged townie excellently, and I can only say kudos to that. I believe though that better options remain.

[Kilava]

That vote is good, though. I think that demonstrates that you can't be a symp. So either killer or town after all.

It's that 'tryhard' post of Silchas' which I keep going back to, which I highlighted and now Rashan has too. Silchas put all three of you in the same group and then designated Ampelas 'tryhard'. Would he be more or less likely to say that about his partner?

[Galain]

Kilava, on 16 May 2017 - 08:28 AM, said:

That vote is good, though. I think that demonstrates that you can't be a symp. So either killer or town after all.

It's that 'tryhard' post of Silchas' which I keep going back to, which I highlighted and now Rashan has too. Silchas put all three of you in the same group and then designated Ampelas 'tryhard'. Would he be more or less likely to say that about his partner?

I can honestly say that since the lynch of SR, I have not read one post of his. He was scum so his motives were never pure.

[Galain]

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:16 AM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

For the record I have never seen whatever movie it was and I don't remember it from the SImpsons, I know it from a song (where it's not "the loneliest")

remove vote

I don't get Nim's vote on Galain Protection/defense of Galain


but I don't think me questioning everything Nimander does and I don't get leads anywhere or is much helpful so I'll just leave Nimander be

I need to reread the but it seems like Kilava has managed to stay relatively low despite not being low-poster. Barb/Attack of Kilava



Denul's non-commitment warrants attention but his play has not been that much different from mine so they're not that supicious to me. Protection/Defense of Denul

Galain, Rashan and Ampelas are all serious and sensible, maybe that's not such a bad place to look too. But I admit they all make sense in some way, but Ampelas is giving me the most tryhard feeling of them.


Defense/vague attack on Galain, Rashan and Amp.


I like Galain's vote on Osserc, although as Rashan points out they have too little posts for my liking, would like to hear more from them. Mention's me again, 3rd time in same post

This post takes subtle jabs at Kilava and Amp, while talking up Galain.

SR eventually votes Kilava (along with Amp, whom he describes as "tryhard")

I previously pointed out how weirdly he twists that line about me, Galain and Osseric to make it sound like I'm blaming osseric, rather than attacking Galain.

No mention of Merrid, little mention of Amp, attacks Kilava. Has a hard on for me, in a cute way.

Now, look at the only other player who we have a CF for. Denul.

He talks about Denul the same way he talks about me. He knows he is fucking scum so he know what he is doing by saying these things. It gets town to look at Denul and Galain whilst distancing himself from Kilava because scum cannot be suspicious of scum can they.

It's a whole bunch of fucking wifom. So fuck off with using it as evidence of anything.

[Kilava]

Are you now swearing because I said you haven't been swearing enough?

[Galain]

Kilava, on 16 May 2017 - 09:10 AM, said:

Are you now swearing because I said you haven't been swearing enough?

Ha, no, just because of that idiotic post by you.

[Merrid]

This post is disjointed and partially out of sequence because I'm gathering bits and commenting where I need to. Follow the trackbacks if you want to take them in context. That's all the apology you're going to get

Not DKT-style at least, although generally added to as I read up.


First stated views when asked by Rashan:

Nimander Golit, on 15 May 2017 - 10:48 PM, said:

Not that you asked, but:

Kilava
Amp
Merrid
Galain

Kilava, on 15 May 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

Galain/Ampelas (haven't decided).

That's it. I consider everyone else town at this point.

Ampelas, on 15 May 2017 - 11:46 PM, said:

Kilava
Merrid
Galain (scummiest by far, but I do believe him to be the symp)

^WTF? Scummiest but bottom of the list?




Votes as current:
6 Players still alive: Ampelas, Galain, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Rashan

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ampelas ( Kilava, Galain )
1 Vote for Nimander Golit ( Merrid )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Ampelas )

Players not voted: Nimander Golit, Rashan

Dare I suggest it but Kilava/Galain as scum/symp (in whatever order) based on their general scumminess impression on thread and that they're both voting the same way? Another point to note: should you really be putting someone at L-2 when you're also speculating that there are 2 scum alive still? Because that rather implies that at least one of them are on the train since there hasn't been an instant pile-on the moment it got to 2 votes. If this is D-Day then scum'll be playing to hammer the moment they can on town.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:03 AM, said:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

Osseric, on 08 May 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Back and catching up. I for one miss the dragonsecks.

I don't like Nimander's reveal, but without a counter I think we can believe him.

Why is Merrid in a twist over it?

Vote Osseric

This is the type of post I have come to associate with scum especially in a situation like this. Nonchalant acceptance of the reveal because there is no counter and a question aimed at Merrid's play without actually delving deeper into it.

Compare it with say, Denul's jokeyness, Silchas/Merrid's seriousness. This post by Osseric is lacking in town presence. 100% scum.

why no mention of Kilava?

Without re-reading, why would you expect a mention of Kilava here, Rashan?

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:10 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:56 PM, said:

Denul, on 09 May 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

Sorry about the alt reveal.

@ Ampelas. I know the lyric (from listening to the radio in the 70s and not from the Simpsons) and it was close enough to reference the song.Go bark up some other tree.

So defensive. I was also eying SR, but you seem so much more responsive. Again, keep your panties out of a bunch. If you were a symp, I wouldn't waste time voting you off right away. Not like your death would tell us anything.

This line bothers me. it's all about scum pouncing on a straggler (while diffusing from SR)

-on the other hand, would scum really bring up yet another angle on SR on their own volition?

What do you mean here about another angle?

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:16 AM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

For the record I have never seen whatever movie it was and I don't remember it from the SImpsons, I know it from a song (where it's not "the loneliest")

remove vote

I don't get Nim's vote on Galain but I don't think me questioning everything Nimander does and I don't get leads anywhere or is much helpful so I'll just leave Nimander be

I need to reread the but it seems like Kilava has managed to stay relatively low despite not being low-poster. Denul's non-commitment warrants attention but his play has not been that much different from mine so they're not that supicious to me.

Galain, Rashan and Ampelas are all serious and sensible, maybe that's not such a bad place to look too. But I admit they all make sense in some way, but Ampelas is giving me the most tryhard feeling of them.

I like Galain's vote on Osserc, although as Rashan points out they have too little posts for my liking, would like to hear more from them.

This post takes subtle jabs at Kilava and Amp, while talking up Galain.

SR eventually votes Kilava (along with Amp, whom he describes as "tryhard")

I previously pointed out how weirdly he twists that line about me, Galain and Osseric to make it sound like I'm blaming osseric, rather than attacking Galain.

I'm reading the vote as distancing purely off your post here, not got time to check back (someone will I'm sure)

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:19 AM, said:

If Kilava is scum, then they must've spoken to SR and made up their minds to start distancing by this point.

Either that or they looked at thread and decided they needed to do so and said "bye!" in PMs

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:23 AM, said:

Kilava, on 09 May 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

I don't know, Silchas, your 'joke' is just so weak and lame that I'm having trouble seeing you make that joke in the first place - it's almost like you thought up bits about it as you went along and tried to make it all stick together now.

On the other hand, maybe your jokes really are just that bad.

Kilava is really hammering SR now. This is either supremely strong acting (mind, SR is still at L-4 at this point), or Kilava is genuinely not scum.

Lets look at this another way - Rashan, what would you do if you came on thread and saw your partner had put a second vote against a claimed town role? Me, I'd reach for the flamethrower.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:25 AM, said:

Ampelas actually jumps in right at that moment to attack Kilava, who is asking SR all kinds of questions, leading him to make questionable (?) jokes.

And puts Kilava at equal votes with SR. While following SR's lead.

Yeah I'd be distancing the fuck from Silchas about now, not following them. You?

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

That proves nothing, John Snow. that's the whole point of why symp cases are bloody pointless.

Galain is getting very whiny here. He's also now open to suspect half the thread, after his initial. quite dubious case on Merrid.

That to me feels more like I'd expect from Galain in a town role, admittedly I'd have expected it more on D1 than D2 so take it with a pinch of salt.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 02:05 AM, said:

Kilava, on 09 May 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

I wonder if you aren't retconning a reason after finding the pressure diverting on to you instead.

This post, when SR is still at 1 vote makes it unlikely Kilava is really scum. This is the exact same kind of pressure I later apply (albeit much more vigorously).

It's either supremely risky distancing, or genuine town play.

This post is about the only reason I'm not sold on Kilava as Rash makes a good point in their defence here.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 03:59 AM, said:

Merrid: mostly all we've heard from Merrid is a lot of anger. There's been no real effort at making cases. They were vote 3 on SR, which speaks in their favour, and vote 3 on Denul, which really doesn't as it looks like a lazy, "easy pickings" "he slipped!" vote. Beyond that we've had Galain make a weak case on them (and with his syp cred that does mkes them look more inno), Kilava PIed them due to the anger, and Amp is on the fence, but more concerned with Kilava.

I acknowledge as much. With Nim being inclined to play as they have it's making it rather hard to see the point of cases when he's been there going "x is scummy" <they CF RI> from a CI perspective. If you throw yourself forward as CI then you'd better play like you've given it more than a seconds consideration every time you post.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 03:59 AM, said:

Kilava strikes me as least likely scum at this point.

After reading through your roundup I've come to the opposite conclusion. I think Kilava our best bet for scum. I'm not going to vote yet, I'd like to hear others views on my thoughts (and also, you know, sleep) If it doesn't make sense tell me so and I'll try again later

Back at some point in the next 7-9 hours.

[Galain]

We know Nim and Rashan are not scum so are not going to just pile on for the win. That leaves you Merrid and Ampelas. Amp is never going to hammer himself now is he? So even if you vote Amp that would leave one of our CI's to vote Amp too.

I could see Kilava being scum, definitely. Yet that would also mean there'd only be one scum left because no one is symping Kilava. So we lynch Amp, there is a death and Nim/Rashan vote off the player left.

[Rashan]

galain's seeming willingness to lynch Amp is just about the only thing that's preventing me from voting that way.

Either they both played terrible games as town, or at least one of them has to be scum.

I find it highly unlikely that both Merrid and Kilava are scum who jumped on SR.

So the question for me then is, who out of Galain and Amp is a better lynch in order to minimize the chances of a scum/symp pair making it through?

[Galain]

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

galain's seeming willingness to lynch Amp is just about the only thing that's preventing me from voting that way.

Either they both played terrible games as town, or at least one of them has to be scum.

I find it highly unlikely that both Merrid and Kilava are scum who jumped on SR.

So the question for me then is, who out of Galain and Amp is a better lynch in order to minimize the chances of a scum/symp pair making it through?

If I leave my vote on Amp.

You lynch me, will that clear Amp tomorrow or will you be fixated on him?

If we vote off Amp and I am left alive tomorrow will you be wanting to lynch me?

I fucking hope Amp turns out to be scum because you've been blindsided otherwise.


Just cause I was wrong day one does not make me scum in any shape or form.

[Galain]

I am voting Amp partly through your analysis on him Rashan, and also on Merrid's current play and what you have said about their vote.

[Galain]

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 06:04 AM, said:

I have a feeling we lynched our BG. Silchas spent enough time talking about him from what I remember. I hope I am wrong.

Also that end of day was a bit sketchy

These were my thoughts at the end of day one. I was not going to out SR as the BG when you asked me to read them, but I left them alone, and went away. Look at it from my point of view. I thought Osseric was scum and I was wrong.

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

I am not switching. I think Osseric is best case presented. I hope we get a lynch but the cases on SR and Kilava I don't believe in. Maybe they are scum but I'd need something better than smooth play or joke voting.

Does this reaction look fake?

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

Bloody hell ha ha, well colour me surprised and impressed. Well that is certainly a great result. I ought to eat humble pie and say I was wrong and so off.

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

Ha, I can see why I am suspect. I have no defense on looking like I was protecting SR.

So, either accept I was just wrong town.

Or lynch me.

My game has always been looking for scum, since we got the scum CF I have looked as best I can. Have I done anything scummy? Even defending SR like I did, it came from the right place, it was not scummy. I can see your point of view because of it but do not make your decision based off me.

You think I am scum number two then lynch me. I am not.

What more can I do here, it is a pickle. My best course of action is to vote, which I have done, most likely scum.

[Rashan]

Galain, on 16 May 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

galain's seeming willingness to lynch Amp is just about the only thing that's preventing me from voting that way.

Either they both played terrible games as town, or at least one of them has to be scum.

I find it highly unlikely that both Merrid and Kilava are scum who jumped on SR.

So the question for me then is, who out of Galain and Amp is a better lynch in order to minimize the chances of a scum/symp pair making it through?

If I leave my vote on Amp.

You lynch me, will that clear Amp tomorrow or will you be fixated on him?

If we vote off Amp and I am left alive tomorrow will you be wanting to lynch me?

I fucking hope Amp turns out to be scum because you've been blindsided otherwise.


Just cause I was wrong day one does not make me scum in any shape or form.

If the game is still on tomorrow, I don't give 2 shits who is scum, because by that point the game is unwinnable for them, how do you not comprehend that? :wallbash

Right now I'm looking at Merrid describing Kilava's supposed pressure on his partner SR as "killing it with fire" . Yet Amp is looking at the same play and trying to convince us that Kilava was being "wishy-washy". So either Amp is trying to pull wool over our eyes (and why do that as town?) Or Kilava is the evil mastermind who's just had spectacularly easy to defend shitty cases made against them all game long (and here again, why?)

You now pleading " would scum really say XYZ" is WIFOM of the highest order, and I'd expect you to know better.

I still need to think on this.

[Galain]

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Galain, on 16 May 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

galain's seeming willingness to lynch Amp is just about the only thing that's preventing me from voting that way.

Either they both played terrible games as town, or at least one of them has to be scum.

I find it highly unlikely that both Merrid and Kilava are scum who jumped on SR.

So the question for me then is, who out of Galain and Amp is a better lynch in order to minimize the chances of a scum/symp pair making it through?

If I leave my vote on Amp.

You lynch me, will that clear Amp tomorrow or will you be fixated on him?

If we vote off Amp and I am left alive tomorrow will you be wanting to lynch me?

I fucking hope Amp turns out to be scum because you've been blindsided otherwise.


Just cause I was wrong day one does not make me scum in any shape or form.

If the game is still on tomorrow, I don't give 2 shits who is scum, because by that point the game is unwinnable for them, how do you not comprehend that? :wallbash



Right now I'm looking at Merrid describing Kilava's supposed pressure on his partner SR as "killing it with fire" . Yet Amp is looking at the same play and trying to convince us that Kilava was being "wishy-washy". So either Amp is trying to pull wool over our eyes (and why do that as town?) Or Kilava is the evil mastermind who's just had spectacularly easy to defend shitty cases made against them all game long (and here again, why?)

You now pleading " would scum really say XYZ" is WIFOM of the highest order, and I'd expect you to know better.

I still need to think on this.

Okay so if there are no symps left and it is 1 scum, then regardless of who we lynch today town win? (I do not mind being lynched then)

Then surely that is game? The only way it isn't game is if the symp is alive now and they can reach parity at 2 vs 2.

Remove vote


I am 100% not the symp. This is worrisome.

Nah, let me think.

Kilava/Merrid

Merrid/Ampelas

Ampelas/Kilava

Amp thinks I am their symp so is voting Kilava

Kilava thinks I am their symp so is voting Amp

Merrid thinks I am their symp so they are pointing at Kilava

Fucking pickle. Rashan/Nim think I am the symp, but I will vote any of those fuckers.

I am scum, who is my symp?

Amp thinks I am their symp but is voting their symp

Kilava thinks I am their symp but is voting their symp

symp symp symp fucking symp.



Right calm down.


I am not going to delete my ramblings, this is my thought process. Who has played most like killer out of the three? Ampelas.

Kilava defending Merrid, defending Merrid, put a few of those posts up thread. Kilava is voting Amp, which points towards Merrid being his master but reverse pyschology and all that. Makes Merrid scum by association. That is maybe what he wants us to believe but Merrid's voting position is good on day one.

Merrid, has not voted today, has not given us his main suspect. Oh, he is voting Nim, but we don't count that as a proper vote. Oh, he did give us his possible suspect. Kilava. Merrid Amp's symp?

Has Amp been on the chopping block? Has Merrid had to do any work this game? Nah, if Merrid was symp then he'd not have been 3rd vote on SR, I understand flamethrowing and all that.

One second, he just said flamethrowing scum to bus towards the end of the game. That means he has had the idea to do that ALL GAME LONG.

Merrid's vote position is third on SR, good place to hide, Kilava on multiple occasions has swayed people's thoughts away from Merrid. Kilava as Merrid's symp and is why he is voting Amp?

Mind blown. Let me go back and pull up relevant quotes.