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Mafia 142.5 - Bauchelain & Korbal Broach Game Thread

#461 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:16 AM

View PostMerrid, on 09 May 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

I'm reasonably happy to switch to Osseric.

Jalan hasn't come back yet which also makes me a little twitchy.


Shows he is happy to switch elsewhere, yet does not mention Kilava who has the most votes other than SR.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:20 AM

View PostOsseric, on 09 May 2017 - 11:22 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 09 May 2017 - 02:16 PM, said:

Sees that there is a reveal, and questions it, without going into it. Nimander has explained his reasoning, I don't agree with it, but he has.

View PostOsseric, on 08 May 2017 - 04:22 PM, said:

First!

And the why are we revealing day 1 out of the gate again?


After this there was little else from Osseric until,

View PostOsseric, on 08 May 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Back and catching up. I for one miss the dragonsecks.

I don't like Nimander's reveal, but without a counter I think we can believe him.

Why is Merrid in a twist over it?





why the fuck ask a question if you don't want to know the answer?

Classic scum behaviour right here from Osseric.

Wow that's a big hard on that you have for me.


Always ;)

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:27 AM

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

For the record I have never seen whatever movie it was and I don't remember it from the SImpsons, I know it from a song (where it's not "the loneliest")

remove vote

I don't get Nim's vote on Galain but I don't think me questioning everything Nimander does and I don't get leads anywhere or is much helpful so I'll just leave Nimander be

I need to reread the but it seems like Kilava has managed to stay relatively low despite not being low-poster. Denul's non-commitment warrants attention but his play has not been that much different from mine so they're not that supicious to me.

Galain, Rashan and Ampelas are all serious and sensible, maybe that's not such a bad place to look too. But I admit they all make sense in some way, but Ampelas is giving me the most tryhard feeling of them.

I like Galain's vote on Osserc, although as Rashan points out they have too little posts for my liking, would like to hear more from them.


Yeah, the more I'm reading the more likely I find that SR is scum. The way he continues to take little jabs are Nim to attempt to discredit a non-cc'ed healer is rather worrisome. I think the only non-scum possibility to explain his behavior is if he is the actual healer, but I don't think that's the case.

Beyond that though, SR is on thread a lot, attempting to direct the discussion. That makes me really nervous.

Vote Silchas Ruin



This post is scummy as fuck. Where do I start with it. Before this game "non-cc'ed" was not a common phrase. It was, and I'll be bold to say this, never used in mafia on this site. Counter would be the usual term. This use of the phrase in Jalan's post has me thinking that they have been following the thread a lot more carefully than their absence portrays.

The next thing is, the use of counter claim as a viable excuse for berating SR's vote because not everyone had checked in. Ampelas and Jalan himself were non entities at the beginning of the game. So their still could have been a counter at any stage until everyone had checked in.

The whole post smacks of someone who wants to be on this train and is just reiterating what others have said instead of giving their own proper thoughts.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:30 AM

So in conclusion after my read up I have Merrid as my top suspect and Jalan as a close second.

That post I quoted with Denul quoting both Silchas and Merrid has me thinking he is the symp. He also never voted for SR.

Vote Merrid

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:31 AM

Now to read up on today's posts.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:32 AM

View PostRashan, on 10 May 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

Looking at the train, I'm fairly comfortable atm with trusting Nim, Kilava and Merrid, since they (same as me) had no reservations to keep attention on SR while he was trying to shake off pressure a la "it was all a joke, guys, no really!" . Unless one of them is a very clever scum who jumped on real early.


I understand the first two but I would re read Merrid if I were you.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:34 AM

View PostRashan, on 10 May 2017 - 06:56 PM, said:

What bothers me in your answer is really this: "what would my answer change?"

SR made a case on Kilava being "wishy-washy" and "too smooth" ™

I suggested I wasn't seeing that, but I'd do a re-read.

You were voting kilava at the time. Along with SR.
You claim you were willing to hammer SR. What would me coming back an hour before timeout and saying "look, I totally see why you think Kilava is scum!" would change at that point? Your response suggests you'd then try to turn the lynch off SR and onto Kilava.

Given the CF, that scenario raises almost as many questions as Galain's behaviour.


Yes, I can see this too. Add Amp to the little pile, although he did express willingness to vote for SR.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:37 AM

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 02:38 AM, said:

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

I think the only non-scum possibility to explain his behavior is if he is the actual healer, but I don't think that's the case.
How does that thought process come into existence?If I was fakeclaiming, the "actual healer" would step up and cc me.I'd have lost a claim way against pretty much anyone today.That statement is absolute trash.


So... You do realize I had already said I thought your claim was genuine, right?

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:23 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 01:19 AM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 09 May 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

If you're gonna vote the claimed Healer you should only be doing it because you're the real Healer. Or, you know, they're being an arse.
Guilty.
However, you're being a logical arse. You're also pushing to get town to work together, which is something that we haven't done particularly well in a while.I don't think that I would have revealed in your shoes, but I do think that it has caused a crapton of discussion, and helped make scum stand out on D1.



View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

For the record I have never seen whatever movie it was and I don't remember it from the SImpsons, I know it from a song (where it's not "the loneliest")remove voteI don't get Nim's vote on Galain but I don't think me questioning everything Nimander does and I don't get leads anywhere or is much helpful so I'll just leave Nimander beI need to reread the but it seems like Kilava has managed to stay relatively low despite not being low-poster. Denul's non-commitment warrants attention but his play has not been that much different from mine so they're not that supicious to me.Galain, Rashan and Ampelas are all serious and sensible, maybe that's not such a bad place to look too. But I admit they all make sense in some way, but Ampelas is giving me the most tryhard feeling of them.I like Galain's vote on Osserc, although as Rashan points out they have too little posts for my liking, would like to hear more from them.
Yeah, the more I'm reading the more likely I find that SR is scum. The way he continues to take little jabs at Nim to attempt to discredit a non-cc'ed healer is rather worrisome. I think the only non-scum possibility to explain his behavior is if he is the actual healer, but I don't think that's the case.Beyond that though, SR is on thread a lot, attempting to direct the discussion. That makes me really nervous.Vote Silchas Ruin


I dont actually care of you leave your vote on me for the moment since you're the first vote and it's still early in D2, but you're barking up the wrong tree.


Adds to my observation that Jalan was around a lot more than his posts dictated yesterday as Denul used that very expression towards Ampelas when Amp was pointing out the signalling case.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:39 AM

View PostDenul, on 09 May 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

Sorry about the alt reveal.

@ Ampelas. I know the lyric (from listening to the radio in the 70s and not from the Simpsons) and it was close enough to reference the song.Go bark up some other tree.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:40 AM

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 02:38 AM, said:

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

I think the only non-scum possibility to explain his behavior is if he is the actual healer, but I don't think that's the case.
How does that thought process come into existence?If I was fakeclaiming, the "actual healer" would step up and cc me.I'd have lost a claim way against pretty much anyone today.That statement is absolute trash.


So... You do realize I had already said I thought your claim was genuine, right?

Note, he completely ignored the post that immediately follows the one he quoted.

View PostNimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 02:41 AM, said:

Not to mention the fact the scummy ass disclaimer at the end does nothing to explain how that abortion of an assumption came into being in the first place.



*le sigh* You've obviously got a hard-on that is effecting your comprehension at the moment. I'm going to ignore you for the next few hours so it'll hopefully abate. If it lasts longer than 4 hours though, I'm going to have to advise that you see a doctor.


Something Osseric said.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:42 AM

View PostMerrid, on 10 May 2017 - 11:15 PM, said:

My problem with the Jalan case is that they'd have to be retarded to put a kill in on the person before them on the lynch train. CF was scum ergo if there are scum on the train they're late on it. Killing Osseric leaves Jalan wide open. That stinks of scum trying to direct today's lynch. And Nim jumps right on demand. If not for the lack of counter-claim I'd be thinking symp of them.


Shows Merrid's motivation to be on early.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:58 AM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

So in conclusion after my read up I have Merrid as my top suspect and Jalan as a close second.

That post I quoted with Denul quoting both Silchas and Merrid has me thinking he is the symp. He also never voted for SR.

Vote Merrid



I'm currently more convinced by your last post about Jalan than your various analyses of Merrid. That's an interesting catch on the "cc'ed". I was surprised you voted this way.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:06 AM

View PostKilava, on 11 May 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

So in conclusion after my read up I have Merrid as my top suspect and Jalan as a close second.

That post I quoted with Denul quoting both Silchas and Merrid has me thinking he is the symp. He also never voted for SR.

Vote Merrid



I'm currently more convinced by your last post about Jalan than your various analyses of Merrid. That's an interesting catch on the "cc'ed". I was surprised you voted this way.


Jalan has not as many interactions with people but I think this post has me believing my own tripe.

View PostDenul, on 09 May 2017 - 12:22 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 08 May 2017 - 11:30 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

Please tell me that doesn't actually happen on d1.


Only couple of times a year


What do you mean, those are some of our finest moments!


I know! It sounded sad in my head.


The last time we caught Scum on Day 1 (Blend) I got lynched on Day 2 (or close to it) for hammering!

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Regarding Symp coaching: Whether the Symp is a rookie or a grizzled vet, Scum doesn't know who they are one way or the other. It's irrelevant.



I was obviously so wrong about SR but that doesn't mean I am off twice in a row ;)

Merrid > Jalan > Ampelas for killers in my book.

99% sure it isn't Rashan, Kilava, and 100% not Nimander or myself obvz.

leaves Denul (he could be SR's partner but his behaviour does not fit)

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:08 AM

Problem I see is I am not very credible. Given how day one turned out. My thoughts are their ^ for all to see, but I will not try to sway the crowd any which way. Nim was spot on day one, and between him and Rashan I am sure they can figure the game out.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:57 AM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

View PostJalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

For the record I have never seen whatever movie it was and I don't remember it from the SImpsons, I know it from a song (where it's not "the loneliest")

remove vote

I don't get Nim's vote on Galain but I don't think me questioning everything Nimander does and I don't get leads anywhere or is much helpful so I'll just leave Nimander be

I need to reread the but it seems like Kilava has managed to stay relatively low despite not being low-poster. Denul's non-commitment warrants attention but his play has not been that much different from mine so they're not that supicious to me.

Galain, Rashan and Ampelas are all serious and sensible, maybe that's not such a bad place to look too. But I admit they all make sense in some way, but Ampelas is giving me the most tryhard feeling of them.

I like Galain's vote on Osserc, although as Rashan points out they have too little posts for my liking, would like to hear more from them.


Yeah, the more I'm reading the more likely I find that SR is scum. The way he continues to take little jabs are Nim to attempt to discredit a non-cc'ed healer is rather worrisome. I think the only non-scum possibility to explain his behavior is if he is the actual healer, but I don't think that's the case.

Beyond that though, SR is on thread a lot, attempting to direct the discussion. That makes me really nervous.

Vote Silchas Ruin



This post is scummy as fuck. Where do I start with it. Before this game "non-cc'ed" was not a common phrase. It was, and I'll be bold to say this, never used in mafia on this site. Counter would be the usual term. This use of the phrase in Jalan's post has me thinking that they have been following the thread a lot more carefully than their absence portrays.

The next thing is, the use of counter claim as a viable excuse for berating SR's vote because not everyone had checked in. Ampelas and Jalan himself were non entities at the beginning of the game. So their still could have been a counter at any stage until everyone had checked in.

The whole post smacks of someone who wants to be on this train and is just reiterating what others have said instead of giving their own proper thoughts.

There ya go.

Keep thinking like that. ;)

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:58 AM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

So in conclusion after my read up I have Merrid as my top suspect and Jalan as a close second.

That post I quoted with Denul quoting both Silchas and Merrid has me thinking he is the symp. He also never voted for SR.

Vote Merrid

Get off Merrid.

The symp wouldn't be so sloppy as to quote both killers in the same post.

Also, I disagree with your read on him.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:01 AM

View PostKilava, on 11 May 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

So in conclusion after my read up I have Merrid as my top suspect and Jalan as a close second.

That post I quoted with Denul quoting both Silchas and Merrid has me thinking he is the symp. He also never voted for SR.

Vote Merrid



I'm currently more convinced by your last post about Jalan than your various analyses of Merrid. That's an interesting catch on the "cc'ed". I was surprised you voted this way.

Ditto.

Reminds me of "FoS a buddy, vote a townie" tell, lol.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:03 AM

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

Jalan has not as many interactions with people

That's actually a point against him, not for him.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:06 AM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

So in conclusion after my read up I have Merrid as my top suspect and Jalan as a close second.

That post I quoted with Denul quoting both Silchas and Merrid has me thinking he is the symp. He also never voted for SR.

Vote Merrid

Get off Merrid.

The symp wouldn't be so sloppy as to quote both killers in the same post.

Also, I disagree with your read on him.


This I am afraid has happened a shit ton of times on this forum. Kruppe himself is definitely a player I can see doing that too.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:06 AM

View PostNimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 11 May 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

Jalan has not as many interactions with people

That's actually a point against him, not for him.


He is up there with my scum reads, what makes you think Merrid is safe?

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