[Galain]

Ha, I can see why I am suspect. I have no defense on looking like I was protecting SR.

[Kilava]

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

Ha, I can see why I am suspect. I have no defense on looking like I was protecting SR.

It's just a bit TOO blatant to me, but I'm open to the possibility that it could be you. I think at the moment there may be better targets. Need to do some rereading and see who first suggested that Silchas was a no go (it wasn't you was it?).

[Ampelas]

Awwwwwwwesome. Got the eunuch. Now just the aristocrat!

[Kilava]

Of course we could also just let the killer play Russian Roulette with us

[Galain]

Ha ha, the only way I see him surviving now is if we lynch the BG so let us not do that.

[Galain]

I am NOT the BG so if you believe me symp/scum then you know I am not hiding behind that mirror.

[Ampelas]

Just got to work, so might be a bit. Interesting that SR was part of the signaling case.... Going to look into Denul a bit when I get time.

[Rashan]

Kilava, on 10 May 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

Ha, I can see why I am suspect. I have no defense on looking like I was protecting SR.

It's just a bit TOO blatant to me, but I'm open to the possibility that it could be you. I think at the moment there may be better targets. Need to do some rereading and see who first suggested that Silchas was a no go (it wasn't you was it?).

He brought up Oseric as an alternative when people (well, NG and myself) were being very skeptical about SR. I found that a bit odd.

[Galain]

Rashan, on 10 May 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Kilava, on 10 May 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

Ha, I can see why I am suspect. I have no defense on looking like I was protecting SR.

It's just a bit TOO blatant to me, but I'm open to the possibility that it could be you. I think at the moment there may be better targets. Need to do some rereading and see who first suggested that Silchas was a no go (it wasn't you was it?).

He brought up Oseric as an alternative when people (well, NG and myself) were being very skeptical about SR. I found that a bit odd.

Very true and I analysed him and came away not suspecting. I thought he could be BG with all his earlier talk.

[Rashan]

This is the post in question:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Rashan, on 09 May 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Rashan, on 09 May 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

So having read up I think we should believe Nim's reveal. I think Bodyguard should stay hidden and that we should lynch Osseric. He's my number one suspect, too much happening on thread for a post like his.

No comment on SR's behaviour? Hmmm

vote SR

Good morning everyone

Not yet no. Other people are doing that. Are you asking me for my opinion on SR? Your post could easily have said, no comment on Kilava's behaviour, or no comment on Rashan's behaviour (I am aware you are Rashan ), so what makes you think SR is more important for me to look at than Osseric?

He has a vote on him. I was leaning towards voting him in my breakdown of the game so far yesterday. he voted a revealed healer . Are none of these things worthy of a comment at the end of a re-read?

I am not saying they are not. I do not want my Osseric vote watered down so that he can escape without pressure.


Now you are asking me to comment,

The impression I got from Silchas' back and forth with Nimander was tongue in cheek. Jokey. Do I expect SR to leave his vote on Nimander, no. Do I think scum would add a train vote to a suspected healer? No. Do I take his vote as serious? No.

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

Or I just found it funny

This game's supposed to be fun too

This kind of game is for people that find scumhunting "fun".

Not being boorish louts.

That's rather unflattering

Vote Nimander

Just went back, and this just looks like a piss contest.

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

Merrid might be stubborn town


The way Silchas slinked onto my wagon was terrible.

remove vote

vote Silchas Ruin

My feet just hurt, sorry

Nah, I don't see it as scummy, jokey over scummy.

I'd prefer to vote the sensible ones. I don't think we'll find scum hiding in the SR alt, but what do I know.

Re-reading it, feels too blatant to be partner. IGMEOY, but probably not scum.

[Rashan]

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

Looking towards the posts around that of the reveal. Both of these posts have a town "feel" to me.

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Symp's not worth the BG's life, especially if the BG could get a killer instead and not have town need to use a lynch to acquire that. A known symp is not a threat until it's DDay. You can just ignore their posts, you can even literally use the ignore function to not see their posts at all.

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

*sigh*

So you've made that call all by yourself. You don't know who the Bodyguard is, if they've checked in or what they might think of your plan. Whilst I applaud you putting the idea out there early on so people can see it because I like to talk mechanics, it would have been much better for you to wait on the reactions of *all 10* players not just the 5 (4+you) who've been active so far. You've tried to force the reveal of a town role, regardless of the thoughts of the person holding that role. You've attempted to dictate the play of the other role purely to ensure your own survival whilst negating any skill on the part of the Bodyguard of correctly predicting who the kill will be. I don't like that.

If there's a counterclaim then I'm voting you first of the two claimants.

Similarly so does Kilava's trying to work out d day.

Again this doesn't look like a scum comment to make,

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 08 May 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

No.

If two people claim the same role, one HAS to be scum.

Lynch only within those two. If it flips town, the next day is a guaranteed scum lynch.

I feel like mafia is a relatively new game here?

This is what I just said, yes. WCS, we spend first day lynching town role, second day lynching the symp. Result? One roled town down, one scum who doesn't count towards town victory down, two unroled townies dead at night, two killers still alive day 3.

Aand the second roled townie who revealed probably dead at night as there no longer will be anyone to heal/protect them

you'd think scum would steer clear from this type of conversation, too easy for them to slip up.

Anyway, I may be wrong and admit that But look...

Galain, on 09 May 2017 - 02:16 PM, said:

Sees that there is a reveal, and questions it, without going into it. Nimander has explained his reasoning, I don't agree with it, but he has.

Osseric, on 08 May 2017 - 04:22 PM, said:

First!

And the why are we revealing day 1 out of the gate again?

After this there was little else from Osseric until,

Osseric, on 08 May 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Back and catching up. I for one miss the dragonsecks.

I don't like Nimander's reveal, but without a counter I think we can believe him.

Why is Merrid in a twist over it?

why the fuck ask a question if you don't want to know the answer?

Classic scum behaviour right here from Osseric.

Followed by these. Yes, Galain was quite proactive in the "Leave SR Alone!" Campaign.

[Galain]

I admit it doesn't place me in a positive light.

[Galain]

I think I need to be lynched as I don't want town to wifom at it at a later stage.

I'll look for scum tomorrow and leave my thoughts then.

[Rashan]

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

For the record I have never seen whatever movie it was and I don't remember it from the SImpsons, I know it from a song (where it's not "the loneliest")

remove vote

I don't get Nim's vote on Galain but I don't think me questioning everything Nimander does and I don't get leads anywhere or is much helpful so I'll just leave Nimander be

I need to reread the but it seems like Kilava has managed to stay relatively low despite not being low-poster. Denul's non-commitment warrants attention but his play has not been that much different from mine so they're not that supicious to me.

Galain, Rashan and Ampelas are all serious and sensible, maybe that's not such a bad place to look too. But I admit they all make sense in some way, but Ampelas is giving me the most tryhard feeling of them.

I like Galain's vote on Osserc, although as Rashan points out they have too little posts for my liking, would like to hear more from them.

Damning by faint praise? Okay, on the second thought, I'm really not liking Galain's role in the SR affair.

Note that the underlined comment makes no sense as is: my comment was criticizing Galain for trying to make Osseric look more villainous than they were. SR is trying to make it sound like I'm just mad Osseric is not posting more. I was pointing out Galain was distorting the truth (which is scummy), and SR here is trying to gloss over that.

[Rashan]

Nimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 02:41 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 02:39 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 10 May 2017 - 02:38 AM, said:

Jalan, on 10 May 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

I think the only non-scum possibility to explain his behavior is if he is the actual healer, but I don't think that's the case.

How does that thought process come into existence?

If I was fakeclaiming, the "actual healer" would step up and cc me.

I'd have lost a claim war against pretty much anyone today.

That statement is absolute trash.

Fixed.

Not to mention the fact the scummy ass disclaimer at the end does nothing to explain how that abortion of an assumption came into being in the first place.

I raised the possibility. So did Galain. Purely academically, if a healer suspected you were symp, they may not counter, b/c a symp for healer is not a great exchange for town.

[Rashan]

Other raised suspects are Jalan (by Denul- theory is Jalan hammered to distance)

And Denul (raised by Ampelas- signalling connection with SR).

Of course, then there is Amp themselves, who was around, but didn't hammer (allegedly waiting for my opinion on Kilava. To see what? If we can get a last minute derail?)

I'll need to think on this later (and not totally zone out when I come home like I did yesterday, ). For now, though, got some work stuff to finish and lunch is done.

[Rashan]

Looking at the train, I'm fairly comfortable atm with trusting Nim, Kilava and Merrid, since they (same as me) had no reservations to keep attention on SR while he was trying to shake off pressure a la "it was all a joke, guys, no really!" . Unless one of them is a very clever scum who jumped on real early.

[Ampelas]

Rashan, on 10 May 2017 - 05:01 PM, said:

Other raised suspects are Jalan (by Denul- theory is Jalan hammered to distance)

And Denul (raised by Ampelas- signalling connection with SR).

Of course, then there is Amp themselves, who was around, but didn't hammer (allegedly waiting for my opinion on Kilava. To see what? If we can get a last minute derail?)

I'll need to think on this later (and not totally zone out when I come home like I did yesterday, ). For now, though, got some work stuff to finish and lunch is done.

Not really waiting on your opinion to hammer. Just not hammering straight out (since I was around and available) and hoping you would have an opinion sooner (look at the time stamps).

[Jalan]

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

Rashan, on 10 May 2017 - 05:01 PM, said:

Other raised suspects are Jalan (by Denul- theory is Jalan hammered to distance)

And Denul (raised by Ampelas- signalling connection with SR).

Of course, then there is Amp themselves, who was around, but didn't hammer (allegedly waiting for my opinion on Kilava. To see what? If we can get a last minute derail?)

I'll need to think on this later (and not totally zone out when I come home like I did yesterday, ). For now, though, got some work stuff to finish and lunch is done.

Not really waiting on your opinion to hammer. Just not hammering straight out (since I was around and available) and hoping you would have an opinion sooner (look at the time stamps).

38 minutes between when you stated availability to hammer and when I actually did it.

So, how exactly were you not stalling?

[Ampelas]

Considering there was still an hour and a half till end of day, you just showing up and Rashan promising more input when he got home, I thought it was reasonable. If we had been wrong and it was a roleless innocent, would you have called it stalling?