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Mafia 142 - Rise of the Dark Sorcerer

#501 User is offline   Thyrllan 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:53 PM

Hey, I made a stupid blunder. If you're going to lynch me over it so be it.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:15 PM

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 09:33 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 28 April 2017 - 09:31 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 28 April 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

I was going to make a point about Galain's reaction to it, but Thyr has already said exactly that. But I would hasten to add that I seem to recall Thyr's hesitant confirmation being quite similar to Galain's reaction - is that wrong?



Read what I wrote carefully, I said I now understand what is going on, not that I "got it."


I thought you were leaving? :clap:


I never said I was leaving. I said I didn't want to have the day go on till after Midnight, my time.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:27 PM

I'm turning in for the night. We're all frazzled, not thinking straight. Maybe that's why Thyr didn't realise his hands were already around Rashan's neck. We all could use a respite.

For the love of all that is holy, we can't just leave him half-hanging like that for half the night! Why am I being tested so?

Vote Rashan

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:25 AM

That's two in a row, Osseric the Hammer.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:27 AM

View PostMerrid, on 28 April 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

I don't buy a "mistake"

First vote after Denul revealed.

Come back, do a bunch of hand-wringing, and "hammer", expecting everyone else to just peace out, and then when day times out, to say, " oops, I'm sorry, how silly of me" while keeping a minion alive.

These types of "mistakes" stink.


I have to say that I kind of agree with this. I'll still be happy to see Rashan dead today, but Thyr's stunt really fucking stinks.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:31 AM

That's a lynch!

10 players alive: Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Rashan, Silchas Ruin, Thryllan
1 player in purgatory: Ampelas

6 votes Rashan (Thryllan, Galain, Denul, Nimander Golit, Silchas Ruin, Osseric)
2 votes Thyrllan (Kilava, Merrid)


Players not voted: Jalan, Rashan

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

Rashan was Roleless Undead and Straw.

I'll update this space with an eod scene when I'm at a keyboard and not on mobile.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:38 AM

It is night.

*insert scene here later*

Thyrllan has been killed.
He was innocent and the Sheriff (guard)

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#508 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:39 AM

View PostThyrllan, on 28 April 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 April 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 05:32 PM, said:

I'm in no way relying on my NAs and trying to sugarcoat it. I see lynching Rashan as the safe way to do this. If the ressurection was one time deal, then we get Rashan out of way early and I don't think we lose anything by that. If it wasn't one time deal then tommorow we will be at the same position except that we will know it's probably every night's ability for Sorcerer instead of losing a town member and having another scum raised from that if we decided to try to get the sorcerer today and lynched wrongly.


Exactly this. I think it's best to test the theory. I mean, I think it's more likely that he'll try to kill me until I'm dead than raise someone again right away, but either way, there's no need to leave Rashan around to test this theory. If we leave him around, and it turns out that he can resurrect more than one person, then instead of only having 2 scum left on thread, we'll have 3, and that number will just keep growing.

This way, we get to test our theory, get rid of a scum recruit, and can continue trying to find the sorcerer except with more information about how his mechanics work than we currently have, and one less player on his team.


This, to me, seems the best course of action. I sort of want to give a warning that I will hammer in 15 minutes to give people a chance to object, but their objection would likely come in the form of a "remove vote," which would tend to piss me off.

Plus, it will be after midnight here if this day runs its full course, which is (for me) quite inconvenient.

Therefore, Let the Chips Fall Where They May.

Vote Rashan


Hmm.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:41 AM

It is now Day 4. The clock is frozen until 8am pac time on Monday.

8 players alive: Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Silchas Ruin

2 players in purgatory: Ampelas, Thyrllan

5 votes need to lynch, 4 votes needed to go to night.
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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:42 AM

I will be around all weekend (as usual) and available to resolve if you reach a lynch.
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Posted 29 April 2017 - 12:42 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2017 - 12:38 AM, said:

It is night.

*insert scene here later*

Thyrllan has been killed.
He was innocent and the Sheriff (guard)



Ah.
Night.

1.42 am

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:25 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2017 - 12:41 AM, said:

It is now Day 4. The clock is frozen until 8am pac time on Monday.

8 players alive: Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Silchas Ruin

2 players in purgatory: Ampelas, Thyrllan

5 votes need to lynch, 4 votes needed to go to night.


So no obvious recruit.

More awake now. Sat here in living room at 2.24 am listening to baby sleep. She has a vomiting bug, first time she has been poorly. I had the 9 til 2 sleep. The wife gets the now til morning sleep.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:28 AM

When Amp was lynched was anyone killed?

My theory is that the recruiter gets to devide between kill and recruit. Thyr was a weird choice there because of how they early hammered/not hammered.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 02:05 AM

View PostOsseric, on 28 April 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

I'm turning in for the night. We're all frazzled, not thinking straight. Maybe that's why Thyr didn't realise his hands were already around Rashan's neck. We all could use a respite.

For the love of all that is holy, we can't just leave him half-hanging like that for half the night! Why am I being tested so?

Vote Rashan


I did say I was coming back...

Ok, so that's the other question mark (sheriff) revealed.

So now it's really down to 4. Gonna re-read tomorrow, since I'm still not home yet.

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 02:21 AM

Nimander, Jalan or Osseric. I am sticking with Nimander. He has been present but mainly absent. He has voted but flown under the radar. I like to think that Osseric' role playing is town and I do enjoy it. Jalan has said a few things that make me like him more than Nim.

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:43 PM

View PostGalain, on 26 April 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

Hmm, something was bugging me and still is. So because of PS' latest post I went back to have a look at a couple of things. PS does not state anything about recruitment. Now I cannot speak for everyone else but I did not even think about the TDMi for this game,. Did not even cross my mind that there would be recruitment and was operating under town vs scum (killers) with a bit of extra in there but did not even think much on that. Basically I did not think.

Anyway, its Kilava's post that bugs me most but this interaction caught my eye as well. Today Jalan says he finds Denul innocent from this back and forth. It was enough for him to remove vote.

View PostDenul, on 25 April 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 25 April 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I voted Denul for what I've preceived as actively trying to needlessly shade players in a serious manner.


Wait, what? I didn't even notice that you had voted me. Lemme go see your reasoning...

Don't wait for the translation! Answer the question!!!


I mean, given I don't know who's hiding behind the Kilava alt, it'd be impossible for me to actually answer the question. If it was Khell, I'd say that Khell is full of bones, that's why he must always die as soon as possible. If it was Tatts, I'd say that Tatts doesn't need bones, he's plenty random enough to do something like this. If it was Messremb, I'd say that it's Messremb, the forum's best symp, bar none. Anyway, I could come up with reasonings for everyone, including the newbies, but heck, they wouldn't necessarily apply because I have no idea who Kilava actually is.



Basically I have no idea what the back and forth is. It looks like signalling and then some. Am I being dense?


View PostJalan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:56 PM, said:

That's a pretty good answer. So what do you think of Nimander's absence or Osseric's frivolity?


Jalan seems to fully understand. and then points towards non entities who have done zilch and have had zero impact on the game. Weird back and forth.

View PostJalan, on 25 April 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

^ I'm sorry, that was supposed to be Silchas' frivolity.



View PostKilava, on 25 April 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 25 April 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

Seriously, what a boring Day 1. I guess everyone's being cagey given how little information we have about the game setup.

Anyway, I guess the only thing that kind of stands out to me so far is the following:

View PostKilava, on 24 April 2017 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 April 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

When you die, you go to purgatory. Please continue posting in-alt there.


At a guess from this statement we'll be getting partial CFs and there is* a resurrection mechanic. Fun times.


*or is the potential for there to be


Can anyone remember PS' timezone?



I hate these types of 'cases,' but I have to point out that Kilava is speculating mechanics openly, which is always more helpful to scum than town.

That being said, I've no idea if there are traditional scum in this game, though from the opening scene, I would assume it's basically a town vs. scum with some weird mechanics and roled townies.


You bitch about Kilava talking mechanics and then do some speculating of your own. I'm impressed!


That certainly is special.

Do you see any other reason that PS would ask people to post in "purgatory" in alt? I specify purgatory as it seems likely from this that the dead go to Spoiler Hell rather than Spoiler Heaven - for the new players we have an additional "dead" thread on occasion for game reasons, locked away from the rest of us.

You want some more speculation? Look at the TMDI of this game. 7-8. I'll save you the trouble of looking it up:

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TMDI:7 = No discernible town and scum... ie: factions/cults only.
TMDI:8 = As 7, but with Large number of simple roles and/or uneven teams.


So those of us, like me, with a RI PM are looking to lynch potentially ( */#>$- SPECULATION WARNING -{:content:}lt;#\* ) a non-allied recruiter and a scum pair and somewhere in there the book holder. Because if we don't we're hoping to get recruited which isn't how you play.


Then there is Kilava talking openly about recruiter mechanics to which now we have had some confirmation from PS. "And any minions".

So was Kilava bringing up the TDMi to talk about his own role, as we all know that's what rolers like to do and what the fuck is that interaction between Denul and Jalan.


This talk about "bones" is also confusing the fuck out of me.
Are there some British idioms being used used here or smth?

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 08:01 PM

View PostGalain, on 29 April 2017 - 01:28 AM, said:

When Amp was lynched was anyone killed?

My theory is that the recruiter gets to devide between kill and recruit. Thyr was a weird choice there because of how they early hammered/not hammered.


When Amp was lynched, 2 people were brought back to life

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 08:07 PM

Re-reads are good for you. If I had time to re-read Day 2 on Fri, I would not have jumped onto Thyr like that, :clap:

So now I'm stuck ruminating b/w Osseric, Nimander, Jalan and Galain.

Jalan makes the most sense, and he brings up points with which I agree.

Osseric is always around, but does not really take a stance. It's notable he DID hammer twice. The only post I could find where he starts to actually name people is this:

View PostOsseric, on 28 April 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

So I went for a walk around the church, just to think by myself for a while. By the way, that sacristy is beautiful Father, really surprised to see that in such an out of the way place. Not much security though for a room which was supposed to be holding a diabolical time of black magic and the like. I mean, I don't want to point fingers, but just saying.

Speaking of pointing fingers, seeing as we're all finally giving voice to our thoughts and the like, I suppose I should too. There's a few people I don't like the smell of (aside from Silchas and Rashan har har). So on my walk I was thinking back to when Kilava first vouchsafed for themselves, and others began chipping in too. Now from what I remember Jalan never said anything, they just switched their vote to Ampelas with nary another word said either way.

I was going to make a point about Galain's reaction to it, but Thyr has already said exactly that. But I would hasten to add that I seem to recall Thyr's hesitant confirmation being quite similar to Galain's reaction - is that wrong?

The last person is Nimander. Keeps to themselves that one, real quiet like. Now, maybe that's preferable to my periodic panic attacks, but they just strike me with going with the flow of this whole situation - and how can one do that?

I need to think more about whether I buy Galain's and Thyr's reactions, so I suppose Jalan and Nimander are currently the ones I would most prefer to keep locked in the side chapel...or, well, you know.


and it's mostly regurgitating what others have said.

Nimander has basically been a low-poster, and I'm finding it hard to say anything beyond that.

Galain is generally on point, and although there's doubts whether he actually "got" what Kilava was saying, I'm inclined to consider him least suspicious atm.

So, all things said, I'm most suspicious of Osserc right now

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:08 AM

Holiday time. Will try be on tonight. 11 hours ish.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:35 AM

View PostGalain, on 29 April 2017 - 01:28 AM, said:

Thyr was a weird choice there because of how they early hammered/not hammered.


Not really, there were pretty obvious signs that they're roled on thread, like how they said Denul is PI at the end of D2 or how they reacted to the RI role PM crap.
It shows that the Sorcerer is paying attention to the game, and here you come and claim it was a weird choice suggesting you want to look like you didn't pay attention to that.

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