[Denul]

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 07:25 AM, said:

Denul, on 26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM, said:

So there, two deaths, it's likely that Galain, at the very least, had a kill.

I personally believe his reveal, and am glad that he used the vig.

Now, let's see how fast you all jump on me today, right?

This a genuine mistake or have you got something on your mind?

Are you not the one who revealed as the eager vig? Sorry, I posted that right before going to bed last night, and now it's morning here, so if it's not you, apologies, I meant that whoever revealed as Eager Vig must have been telling the truth.

[Denul]

Ah, I see now that it was Merrid, my bad!

[Denul]

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

[b]Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.

Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

'Innocent' is not an indication of alignment to you?

Not so much in TMDI 7/8 territory, no. What do you think the channeller was?

WTF are you on about? INNOCENT is a pretty fucking clear indication of alignment.

[Jalan]

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

This is my usual type of play day two. Have a little look at why things didn't work out. Poke the bear and see what happens.

I... I don't think I'm a bear exactly, but obviously not a dinosaur like some, and where are my freaking wings?

Oh, and why would I move my vote back to a player I had initially voted, challenged head-to-head, and found upon closer examination to be good instead of bad? That's just cray-cray fractal fumbling, that is. Baddies are obviously on that train too, now we see the flip.

[Denul]

Nimander Golit, on 26 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

Denul, on 26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM, said:

So there, two deaths, it's likely that Galain, at the very least, had a kill.

I personally believe his reveal, and am glad that he used the vig.

Now, let's see how fast you all jump on me today, right?

Mistake or something more? Merrid was the vig.

Are you suggesting Galain is scum?

No, it was a slip, I apologize! Teach me to post right before bed.

[Denul]

Merrid, on 26 April 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.

Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

'Innocent' is not an indication of alignment to you?

Not so much in TMDI 7/8 territory, no. What do you think the channeller was?

Did you ask PS what your CF and VC are?

Because that was either a slip, or just obtuseness.

Yeah, I'm inclined to believe that Kilava made a slip here - I think it's pretty damn clear based on my role PM as well as the word INNOCENT that the Channeler wasn't a bad guy.

vote Kilava


EDIT: Trying to fix bold tags

This post has been edited by Denul: 26 April 2017 - 01:59 PM

[Merrid]

Denul, on 26 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 26 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

Denul, on 26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM, said:

So there, two deaths, it's likely that Galain, at the very least, had a kill.

I personally believe his reveal, and am glad that he used the vig.

Now, let's see how fast you all jump on me today, right?

Mistake or something more? Merrid was the vig.

Are you suggesting Galain is scum?

No, it was a slip, I apologize! Teach me to post right before bed.

He slipped! GET HIM!!!

[Denul]

Merrid, on 26 April 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

He slipped! GET HIM!!!

[Merrid]

Now, we should NOT be talking about our PMs, because that's game-breaking and puts you on the list of whomever is modding the game, because you are messing up what they spent time creating,


BUT...



Kilava is trying very hard to muddy the set-up. Given the story background, "INNOCENT" is a pretty obvious description of a "town-like" CF, at the least.

As such, their attempts at casting doubts over the CF are... troubling, to say the least.

[Merrid]

vote Kilava

You got some explaining to do

[Denul]

Merrid, on 26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

Now, we should NOT be talking about our PMs, because that's game-breaking and puts you on the list of whomever is modding the game, because you are messing up what they spent time creating,

I mean, it DOES say in the OPs that reveals ARE allowed, just no direct quoting of PMs!

[Ampelas]

back again and reading up

[Ampelas]

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

[Denul]

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

I agree that we shouldn't CI him, but I think it's likely that he was telling the truth. Not that I won't still be keeping an eye on him.

[Osseric]

Denul, on 26 April 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

I agree that we shouldn't CI him, but I think it's likely that he was telling the truth. Not that I won't still be keeping an eye on him.

They were waving a gun around yesterday proclaiming that they had one bullet and intended to use it. Now I ain't no fancy big city detective, but that kind of person strikes me more as a gun nut loon rather than a dark magic-wielding sorceror and/or a book thief.

[Galain]

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

[Merrid]

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Do some math. We didn't get a lynch, so I vigged my Day 1 suspect (whom we failed to lynch).

We are no worse off than we'd have been with an inno Day 1 lynch.

[Path-Shaper]

**quick note**

It was brought to my attention that I didn't make vc and alignment crystal clear in the pm's. Unless you have been directly told otherwise on death you will vc as innocent, with a role if appropriate. Your VC is to lynch the sorcerer and any minions.

[Galain]

Hmm, something was bugging me and still is. So because of PS' latest post I went back to have a look at a couple of things. PS does not state anything about recruitment. Now I cannot speak for everyone else but I did not even think about the TDMi for this game,. Did not even cross my mind that there would be recruitment and was operating under town vs scum (killers) with a bit of extra in there but did not even think much on that. Basically I did not think.

Anyway, its Kilava's post that bugs me most but this interaction caught my eye as well. Today Jalan says he finds Denul innocent from this back and forth. It was enough for him to remove vote.

Denul, on 25 April 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Jalan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

Denul, on 25 April 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

Jalan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I voted Denul for what I've preceived as actively trying to needlessly shade players in a serious manner.

Wait, what? I didn't even notice that you had voted me. Lemme go see your reasoning...

Don't wait for the translation! Answer the question!!!

I mean, given I don't know who's hiding behind the Kilava alt, it'd be impossible for me to actually answer the question. If it was Khell, I'd say that Khell is full of bones, that's why he must always die as soon as possible. If it was Tatts, I'd say that Tatts doesn't need bones, he's plenty random enough to do something like this. If it was Messremb, I'd say that it's Messremb, the forum's best symp, bar none. Anyway, I could come up with reasonings for everyone, including the newbies, but heck, they wouldn't necessarily apply because I have no idea who Kilava actually is.

Basically I have no idea what the back and forth is. It looks like signalling and then some. Am I being dense?

Jalan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:56 PM, said:

That's a pretty good answer. So what do you think of Nimander's absence or Osseric's frivolity?

Jalan seems to fully understand. and then points towards non entities who have done zilch and have had zero impact on the game. Weird back and forth.

Jalan, on 25 April 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

^ I'm sorry, that was supposed to be Silchas' frivolity.

Kilava, on 25 April 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 25 April 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

Denul, on 25 April 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

Seriously, what a boring Day 1. I guess everyone's being cagey given how little information we have about the game setup.

Anyway, I guess the only thing that kind of stands out to me so far is the following:

Kilava, on 24 April 2017 - 01:04 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 April 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

When you die, you go to purgatory. Please continue posting in-alt there.

At a guess from this statement we'll be getting partial CFs and there is* a resurrection mechanic. Fun times.


*or is the potential for there to be


Can anyone remember PS' timezone?

I hate these types of 'cases,' but I have to point out that Kilava is speculating mechanics openly, which is always more helpful to scum than town.

That being said, I've no idea if there are traditional scum in this game, though from the opening scene, I would assume it's basically a town vs. scum with some weird mechanics and roled townies.

You bitch about Kilava talking mechanics and then do some speculating of your own. I'm impressed!

That certainly is special.

Do you see any other reason that PS would ask people to post in "purgatory" in alt? I specify purgatory as it seems likely from this that the dead go to Spoiler Hell rather than Spoiler Heaven - for the new players we have an additional "dead" thread on occasion for game reasons, locked away from the rest of us.

You want some more speculation? Look at the TMDI of this game. 7-8. I'll save you the trouble of looking it up:

Quote

TMDI:7 = No discernible town and scum... ie: factions/cults only.
TMDI:8 = As 7, but with Large number of simple roles and/or uneven teams.

So those of us, like me, with a RI PM are looking to lynch potentially ( */#>$- SPECULATION WARNING -{:content:}lt;#\* ) a non-allied recruiter and a scum pair and somewhere in there the book holder. Because if we don't we're hoping to get recruited which isn't how you play.

Then there is Kilava talking openly about recruiter mechanics to which now we have had some confirmation from PS. "And any minions".

So was Kilava bringing up the TDMi to talk about his own role, as we all know that's what rolers like to do and what the fuck is that interaction between Denul and Jalan.

[Ampelas]

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

Because he killed an innocent. Two INNOCENTS dead in the night scene.