[Path-Shaper]

It is day 2. There are 23 hours and 15 minutes until timeout.

9 players alive: Ampelas, Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thryllan
2 players in purgatory: Rashan, Silchas Ruin

1 vote Jalan (Galain)
1 vote Denul (Kilava)
1 vote Kilava (Merrid)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Denul, Jalan, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Thryllan

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

[Galain]

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

Because he killed an innocent. Two INNOCENTS dead in the night scene.

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Several members of the gathering surround Denul, demanding his blood in the belief that he is the thief. As they corner him, the lynch rope ready to bear his weight, the room is filled with sudden unnatural darkness. A shot fires from unsteady hands at the sudden provocation. The scents of smoke and blood permeate the room. When the darkness lifts, two bodies lay amidst the crowd.

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.
Rashan has been killed. He was innocent.

2 innocents in the CF's as well? What are you smoking?

[Nimander Golit]

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

[b]Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

'Innocent' is not an indication of alignment to you?

Not so much in TMDI 7/8 territory, no. What do you think the channeller was?

I think Kilava is being unnecessarily obtuse here.

[Osseric]

I think there might be some miscommunication going on between you two.

edit: talking to Ampelas and Galain.

This post has been edited by Osseric: 26 April 2017 - 04:32 PM

[Nimander Golit]

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

Because he killed an innocent. Two INNOCENTS dead in the night scene.

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Several members of the gathering surround Denul, demanding his blood in the belief that he is the thief. As they corner him, the lynch rope ready to bear his weight, the room is filled with sudden unnatural darkness. A shot fires from unsteady hands at the sudden provocation. The scents of smoke and blood permeate the room. When the darkness lifts, two bodies lay amidst the crowd.

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.
Rashan has been killed. He was innocent.

2 innocents in the CF's as well? What are you smoking?

I am not clear on what you are trying to say. I think we can safely assume that "innocent" means town.

[Jalan]

What do we make of the rest of the information in the writeup? Something there more than flavour?

[Kilava]

Nimander Golit, on 26 April 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

Because he killed an innocent. Two INNOCENTS dead in the night scene.

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Several members of the gathering surround Denul, demanding his blood in the belief that he is the thief. As they corner him, the lynch rope ready to bear his weight, the room is filled with sudden unnatural darkness. A shot fires from unsteady hands at the sudden provocation. The scents of smoke and blood permeate the room. When the darkness lifts, two bodies lay amidst the crowd.

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.
Rashan has been killed. He was innocent.

2 innocents in the CF's as well? What are you smoking?

I am not clear on what you are trying to say. I think we can safely assume that "innocent" means town.

Well I see some toy have been shaken urgently.

You want to know what I did? I read "blah blah dead blah blah blah blah the channeller" Now have you seen such a role before? I haven't. Does it sound like the sort of name that might be assigned to a member of a cult? Yeah. My bad. Phone blah tired blah whatever. Mistake because I missed something clearly stated. Oh well.

[Kilava]

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

Then there is Kilava talking openly about recruiter mechanics to which now we have had some confirmation from PS. "And any minions".

So was Kilava bringing up the TDMi to talk about his own role, as we all know that's what rolers like to do and what the fuck is that interaction between Denul and Jalan.

What, you'd prefer me to not say anything then when no-one else comment on it days later pretend I'm surprised when there's a recruit CF? Fuck that. I play for my team/side/race/faction/class/whatever the fuck the theme is to win which means as much information for people to take into account in play as possible. Because, you know, being RI I'm in the majority (at least initially. Nail a recruiter early then cult are almost always going to lose.

[Galain]

remove vote

[Galain]

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 26 April 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

Because he killed an innocent. Two INNOCENTS dead in the night scene.

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Several members of the gathering surround Denul, demanding his blood in the belief that he is the thief. As they corner him, the lynch rope ready to bear his weight, the room is filled with sudden unnatural darkness. A shot fires from unsteady hands at the sudden provocation. The scents of smoke and blood permeate the room. When the darkness lifts, two bodies lay amidst the crowd.

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.
Rashan has been killed. He was innocent.

2 innocents in the CF's as well? What are you smoking?

I am not clear on what you are trying to say. I think we can safely assume that "innocent" means town.

Well I see some toy have been shaken urgently.

You want to know what I did? I read "blah blah dead blah blah blah blah the channeller" Now have you seen such a role before? I haven't. Does it sound like the sort of name that might be assigned to a member of a cult? Yeah. My bad. Phone blah tired blah whatever. Mistake because I missed something clearly stated. Oh well.

Kilava jumping in with another weird post.

Why are you responding for Ampelas? This sounds like you're the same person.

Let me re read it again.

[Galain]

Right. As far as I can see.

PS gives us two cfs. They are both innocent.
Ampelas says "if merrid is a vig, not a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night.

So we have Rashan innocent CF and Silchas CF who are both innocent. So who is the extra? Then...

He tries to explain it by saying because he killed an innocent. We know this because of the CF so again other than the two innocents who is the extra?

Ignore Nim

Then Kilava is replying as Ampelas. Anyone else seeing this?

His reply does not make sense because Kilava is not part of this conversation.

[Osseric]

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

Right. As far as I can see.

PS gives us two cfs. They are both innocent.
Ampelas says "if merrid is a vig, not a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night.

So we have Rashan innocent CF and Silchas CF who are both innocent. So who is the extra? Then...

He tries to explain it by saying because he killed an innocent. We know this because of the CF so again other than the two innocents who is the extra?

Ignore Nim

Then Kilava is replying as Ampelas. Anyone else seeing this?

His reply does not make sense because Kilava is not part of this conversation.

Galain, come over here to this apse with me, let's just have a word. Look, no one is saying it, so I will. You seem to be confusing several things.

First, it's obvious that Ampelas is referring to one of the deaths as an extra death, because without gun nut Merrid running around there would have been a single death at night.

Second, Kilava is replying to something about themselves, so I don't se how they're replying for/as Ampelas.

But, having said that, I need to have a word with everyone else about Kilava, so why don't we go back to the altar where everyone is now?

[Osseric]

Galain, I think this was what Kilava was replying to, as several people had raised this 'alignment/innocent' post. Although it is odd which post they chose to reply to, I'll give you that.

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

[b]Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.

Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

'Innocent' is not an indication of alignment to you?

Not so much in TMDI 7/8 territory, no. What do you think the channeller was?

Now, what I want to bring up here with this post is that this is different to what they have just said, which is that, essentially, they did not see the word, 'innocent'. But they're only just saying this now. Previously, as in this post, Kilava's tried to explain it another way. So their story is changing.


By the way, did anyone think to bring any food to the church with them? Bread for Mass? Great. And holy water? Not even wine. This is the worst.

[Thyrllan]

Home from the salt mine and catching up...

[Thyrllan]

Okay, I've gone through today's posts and 90% makes no sense to me. People don't even appear to be replying to the posts they're quoting. Gonna give it another go after I eat something.

[Ampelas]

Back again...

[Ampelas]

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

Right. As far as I can see.

PS gives us two cfs. They are both innocent.
Ampelas says "if merrid is a vig, not a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night.

So we have Rashan innocent CF and Silchas CF who are both innocent. So who is the extra? Then...

He tries to explain it by saying because he killed an innocent. We know this because of the CF so again other than the two innocents who is the extra?

Ignore Nim

Then Kilava is replying as Ampelas. Anyone else seeing this?

His reply does not make sense because Kilava is not part of this conversation.

Galain, come over here to this apse with me, let's just have a word. Look, no one is saying it, so I will. You seem to be confusing several things.

First, it's obvious that Ampelas is referring to one of the deaths as an extra death, because without gun nut Merrid running around there would have been a single death at night.

Thank you Osseric. You said it perfectly so I don't see a point in arguing with Galain further on this point.

[Thyrllan]

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.

Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

Reply implies Kilava did not see "he was innocent." But I have to ask, "a good choice of kill or not..." Good choice for who? Scum? It's like Kilava is almost overtly rooting for them.

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.

Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

'Innocent' is not an indication of alignment to you?

Not so much in TMDI 7/8 territory, no. What do you think the channeller was?

Now posting like he saw "he was innocent..." but dismisses it due to assumption that no one is innocent in this game due to unstated but assumed recruitment mechanic.

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 26 April 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

Galain, on 26 April 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

If Merrid is a vig and not just a killer, then we lost an extra innocent last night. I don't like how Galain is willing to PI him just because we had two kills last night.

Woah, woah. Who said anything about PI'ing anyone?

I said his kill was verified. I also thought he was telling the truth because the risk was too high for scum to reveal like that, with 10 hours left in the day and no one a main suspect/lynch target. He could easily have been the day one scapegoat.

but what do you mean by the underlined?

Because he killed an innocent. Two INNOCENTS dead in the night scene.

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Several members of the gathering surround Denul, demanding his blood in the belief that he is the thief. As they corner him, the lynch rope ready to bear his weight, the room is filled with sudden unnatural darkness. A shot fires from unsteady hands at the sudden provocation. The scents of smoke and blood permeate the room. When the darkness lifts, two bodies lay amidst the crowd.

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.
Rashan has been killed. He was innocent[/b]

2 innocents in the CF's as well? What are you smoking?

I am not clear on what you are trying to say. I think we can safely assume that "innocent" means town.

Well I see some toy have been shaken urgently.

You want to know what I did? I read "blah blah dead blah blah blah blah the channeller" Now have you seen such a role before? I haven't. Does it sound like the sort of name that might be assigned to a member of a cult? Yeah. My bad. Phone blah tired blah whatever. Mistake because I missed something clearly stated. Oh well.

Now back to "I didn't see the bit about innocence because any fool knows that 'channeler' (a role that I, Kilava, has never seen before) is probably a cult role and therefore makes readers completely miss stuff like 'he was an innocent...'"

And yes, this post by Kilava has nothing whatsoever to do with the exchange between Ampelas and Denul that he is quoting, which is bizarre to say the least.


Summary: I agree with Osseric that Kilava's story has changed at least twice.


EDIT: Trying to fix bolding problem.

EDIT the 2nd: Fix did not fix.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 April 2017 - 06:24 AM
Reason for edit: Attempting to fix bolding issue. Removed double bolding tags from nested quote. Tried removing ALL bolding tags from post.

[Ampelas]

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Galain, I think this was what Kilava was replying to, as several people had raised this 'alignment/innocent' post. Although it is odd which post they chose to reply to, I'll give you that.

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 26 April 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Kilava, on 26 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

[b]Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was innocent and the channeller.

Well that was either a good choice of kill or not due to the non indication of alignment. Singular so the only one of that role. Gah.

Not liking the no lynch but 3 deaths could have been a little excessive perhaps.

'Innocent' is not an indication of alignment to you?

Not so much in TMDI 7/8 territory, no. What do you think the channeller was?

Now, what I want to bring up here with this post is that this is different to what they have just said, which is that, essentially, they did not see the word, 'innocent'. But they're only just saying this now. Previously, as in this post, Kilava's tried to explain it another way. So their story is changing.

I had to scroll back up, but it does look like Kilava brought up alignment (teams?) PRIOR to PS's quick note about minions.

TBH I hadn't assumed recruiting just because this game was TMDI 7/8 till PS confirmed it. I just assumed any sort of combination of weird/new mechanics.

That could very well have been a slip on Kilava's part indicating off thread knowledge.

[Thyrllan]

ATTN, PS: The messed up bolding is the way the multiquote function quoted things. I did nothing to turn it to hash.