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Mafia 141.5 Game Thread - Innsmouth

#521 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:12 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 08 April 2017 - 06:59 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 07 April 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 9 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Ampelas, Cast, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Kilava ( Cast, Silchas Ruin )
2 Votes for Jalan ( Thyrllan, Ampelas )
2 Votes for Cast ( Kilava, Jalan )

Players not voted: Galain


This was last update. Can we get an extension?


Just woke up and I'm leaving in some 25 minutes but I'll try

Only votes update though, I'd leave the resolution to Blend

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:21 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 08 April 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

Time? Votes? Ps never mentioned weekend break or provided updates


View PostGalain, on 08 April 2017 - 06:44 AM, said:

We aren't on weekend freeze???


Blend said the weekend freeze won't start before the end of this day.
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:21 AM

View PostKilava, on 07 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

Is there gonna be a freeze before timeout, PS?



View PostPath-Shaper, on 07 April 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 07 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

Is there gonna be a freeze before timeout, PS?


No, I will start the freeze at the end of Day 3.


I assumed timeout, b/c of this.

*yawn* 3 AM here. considering I slept like 4.5 h last night, way past bedtime.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:26 AM

It is Day 3. 4 hours and 45 minutes since time out

7 Players still alive: Ampelas, Cast, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan

4 or 5 (I'm pretty sure it's 5 but I'm leaving it to Blend) votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

4 Votes for Jalan ( Ampelas, Cast, Thyrllan, Kilava )
2 Votes for Cast ( Jalan, Silchas Ruin )

Players not voted: Galain

Holler if you think I missed anything

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 April 2017 - 07:27 AM

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 12:29 PM

Morning folks.

As noted, it was 5 votes to lynch, as a modkill does not affect the votes needed to lynch on the day of the modkill. So Day 3 timed out without a lynch.

Give me a couple minutes, I'll resolve night and get Day 4 going!
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Posted 10 April 2017 - 12:31 PM

Galain has been killed. He was Nyarlathotep and Macros.


It is Day 4. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

6 Players still alive: Ampelas, Cast, Jalan, Kilava, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ampelas, Cast, Jalan, Kilava, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan
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Posted 10 April 2017 - 01:43 PM

Welp, that was a fiasco.

I'm around-ish. But working

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 02:11 PM

View PostKilava, on 10 April 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Welp, that was a fiasco.

I'm around-ish. But working


Pretty much. But not all bad, at least the game's not over, so the symp must be dead. That gives us another avenue of investigation - can we identify the probable symp and who they might have been symping (the answer is 'no' if it was Denul :) )?

Nothing has really changed concerning Jalan for me, except perhaps one thing: Although I still like Jalan-Cast as a scum partnership, I did note that Silchas did not switch to Jalan when they had the opportunity to do so, and get the lynch. So it may be that actually Jalan and Silchas are the ones in cahoots.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 02:17 PM

Barghast
Denul
Galain
Merrid
Nimander Golit
Osseric
Rashan

Are the deadies. We know it can't be Barghast or Galain because of their CFs. That still leaves five people, unfortunately still a pretty big pool of players.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 02:19 PM

Can someone pull up the three lynch trains, end of day trains please?

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 02:49 PM

What the actual fuck are you all playing at? Towns weapon is the lynch so damn well lynch.

The only people who gained from not lynching are scum - for one blindingly obvious reason. We're at D-DAY now and we have 6 fucking players left. If you'd lynched me we'd have been at 5. It is seriously in towns interest to have one less body around on D-Day because we're having to look at another person. Picking 2 scum out of 5 is so much easier than picking 2 out of 6.




View PostCast, on 08 April 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

How's this for your Jalan/Cast theory?
I'd have to be the worst symp/killer ever to swap to my "partner/master" on potential DDAY putting them at L-1.

Remove Vote
Vote Jalan





View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:23 AM, said:

Maybe yes, maybe no. I guess we'll find out, eh?


Alright, let's test.

Remove Vote

Vote Cast




Cast and Thyr do a retarded vote swap


View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

Erm. No. That's not how that works.




View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:31 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Jalan




Thyr jumps back on me so I'm at L-1


View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:32 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Cast




SR then jumps OFF OF ME taking me to L-2 with 2 hours left in the day


View PostKilava, on 08 April 2017 - 02:32 AM, said:

remove vote

vote Jalan


let's see if it works....



Kilava gets back on me


SR has got to be scum trying to stall a lynch. There's no other justification I can see for that remove.




View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 10 April 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Welp, that was a fiasco.

I'm around-ish. But working


Pretty much. But not all bad, at least the game's not over, so the symp must be dead. That gives us another avenue of investigation - can we identify the probable symp and who they might have been symping (the answer is 'no' if it was Denul :) )?

Nothing has really changed concerning Jalan for me, except perhaps one thing: Although I still like Jalan-Cast as a scum partnership, I did note that Silchas did not switch to Jalan when they had the opportunity to do so, and get the lynch. So it may be that actually Jalan and Silchas are the ones in cahoots.


Underlined: Yeah so I was wrong about you being symp. You're still up there with Cast for my 2nd scum choice.

View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Barghast
Denul
Galain
Merrid
Nimander Golit
Osseric
Rashan

Are the deadies. We know it can't be Barghast or Galain because of their CFs. That still leaves five people, unfortunately still a pretty big pool of players.


Then you go and pull this. You want to symp hunt when there hasn't been a scum CF? What are you doing?

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 02:55 PM

My theory remains in place: Merrid was a smp and he was symping Cast. In the beginning of Day 2 he posts an "analysis" of Cast's Day 1 (including the whole " I trust Barghast, I like Barghast, wait Barghast is a symp, vote who Barghast is signalling!" and he called it "typical town-like play", trying to make it look like he was considering Cast, and then dismissing any suspicions.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 02:59 PM

View PostJalan, on 07 April 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

2nd time lucky:

View PostThyrllan, on 06 April 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

View PostJalan, on 04 April 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

Do you think scum get involved in dragonsex banter? I'd have thought D1 avoid anything that could draw the random lynch


Nice way to rule yourself out there. Though I also notice that your banter amounted to a couple of half-hearted posts.


Again light jibe my way. Thyrs banter was little more than mine. Of those heavily dragonsexing: Ampelas, Rashan, Barghast. 2 CF'd town of 3. Those touching the edges: Jalan, Thyrllan, Merrid (with 1 post), Kilava. 1 CF'd town of 4.

I'll stand by the heavy dragon sex not being a scum place to be thanks.



So if you think this, then the best way to play like you are not scum is by doing this right? Who knows what scum will or will not do, and you highlighting this shows that you have given it thought. Then you use it as a defense?

BUT going off your post who was not rping? Cast was around but did not RP and I'd vote them and Silchas with his late in the day shenanigans.

Like people say with trains, one on and one off then why not the same with rp?

View PostJalan, on 04 April 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 04 April 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 04 April 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:

Care to explain the connections? Because most of what I see in that nested quote is dragonsex banter.


Scum team getting early interactions on thread through dragonsex banter.

Kilava's response that you quoted was already replied to by Rashan. Then Thyr, Bargy, Rashan, myself all have quotes/posts since which are ignored by you but reply to that one post and disappear.

I more like the Rashan/Kilava connection but you are involved in it, and was also quoted by Osseric. Not sure who is signalling who here, but there's something there.


Do you think scum get involved in dragonsex banter? I'd have thought D1 avoid anything that could draw the random lynch


Day one, you say it yourself.

Cast was on the day one train, Silchas tried to be, were you?

One off, one on, one rp, one doesn't.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:01 PM

I am pretty sure SR is voting Kilava and removes to Cast. Would need to check on that because that is going off memory.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:03 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 06 April 2017 - 10:22 PM, said:

Vote Kilava

I removed to let you hang yourself. You are desperately posting to end game to strangle the thread.

Well played. Don't know your partner yet, but we'll get it



View PostKilava, on 08 April 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

PS: Vote and timer please.


day times out around 10:30 EST.

I got swimming form 9:05 to 10, and I probably won't walk back before timeout, so I'd like this figured out before I leave (I got a 20 min walk or so)

1 vote Kilava (SR)
3 votes Cast (Kilava, Jalan, Thyr)
2 votes Jalan (Amp, Cast)

1 person not voted: Galan, who was supposedly re-reading but likely fell asleep



View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:32 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Cast



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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:06 PM

View PostJalan, on 10 April 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

What the actual fuck are you all playing at? Towns weapon is the lynch so damn well lynch.

The only people who gained from not lynching are scum - for one blindingly obvious reason. We're at D-DAY now and we have 6 fucking players left. If you'd lynched me we'd have been at 5. It is seriously in towns interest to have one less body around on D-Day because we're having to look at another person. Picking 2 scum out of 5 is so much easier than picking 2 out of 6.




View PostCast, on 08 April 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

How's this for your Jalan/Cast theory?
I'd have to be the worst symp/killer ever to swap to my "partner/master" on potential DDAY putting them at L-1.

Remove Vote
Vote Jalan





View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:23 AM, said:

Maybe yes, maybe no. I guess we'll find out, eh?


Alright, let's test.

Remove Vote

Vote Cast




Cast and Thyr do a retarded vote swap


View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:25 AM, said:

Erm. No. That's not how that works.




View PostThyrllan, on 08 April 2017 - 12:31 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Jalan




Thyr jumps back on me so I'm at L-1


View PostSilchas Ruin, on 08 April 2017 - 12:32 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Cast




SR then jumps OFF OF ME taking me to L-2 with 2 hours left in the day


View PostKilava, on 08 April 2017 - 02:32 AM, said:

remove vote

vote Jalan


let's see if it works....



Kilava gets back on me


SR has got to be scum trying to stall a lynch. There's no other justification I can see for that remove.




View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

View PostKilava, on 10 April 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Welp, that was a fiasco.

I'm around-ish. But working


Pretty much. But not all bad, at least the game's not over, so the symp must be dead. That gives us another avenue of investigation - can we identify the probable symp and who they might have been symping (the answer is 'no' if it was Denul :) )?

Nothing has really changed concerning Jalan for me, except perhaps one thing: Although I still like Jalan-Cast as a scum partnership, I did note that Silchas did not switch to Jalan when they had the opportunity to do so, and get the lynch. So it may be that actually Jalan and Silchas are the ones in cahoots.


Underlined: Yeah so I was wrong about you being symp. You're still up there with Cast for my 2nd scum choice.

View PostThyrllan, on 10 April 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Barghast
Denul
Galain
Merrid
Nimander Golit
Osseric
Rashan

Are the deadies. We know it can't be Barghast or Galain because of their CFs. That still leaves five people, unfortunately still a pretty big pool of players.


Then you go and pull this. You want to symp hunt when there hasn't been a scum CF? What are you doing?




I agree with this?

WTF Thry. Ping ping ping!

You know, we are hanging ourselves. Scum win through our ineptitude! I think I am dumb sometimes but you're all no better.

Leaning towards Cast today as he is looking like the partner of many, like a common denominator. People think Kilava/Cast, Jalan/Cast, Thyr/Cast. Then it must be Cast and we need to figure out his partner when he CF's scum.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:09 PM

View PostJalan, on 07 April 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 06 April 2017 - 12:09 AM, said:

Okay, so I am sceptical about Silchas slipping. It would have to be a super dumb slip too, after all what are scum most focused on if not kills. But I also don't see the vig being a vengeance/list thing - I think most likely they just wanted to pop one off before being knocked off themselves...premature yes, but stil somewhat understandable.


Anyhoo, my thought (and apologies if this has been already posited) is that there was a lot of positive-to-sure why not attitude toward lynching Rashan yesterday. The lack of a real alternative also made them an even likelier lynch. Thus, scum may have felt little pressure to contribute by jumping on the train, as the lynch seemed likely regardless. My suspicion then is that at least one, if not both, killers would have stayed off the train, and that's a manageable number of players to look at. I'm confident at least one of Ampelas, Denul, Jalan or Merrid will turn out scum. I'll be having a look at them tomorrow.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 April 2017 - 02:35 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 15 minutes since time out

13 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Cast, Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Rashan, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Rashan ( Barghast, Kilava, Cast, Osseric, Thyrllan, Nimander Golit, Silchas Ruin )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Galain )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Rashan )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Denul, Jalan, Merrid


Rashan has been lynched. He was ItWasNom and a Roleless Innocent.



Woah there with the underlined. D1 and scum are both off the slow train? Like hell they are. D1 random is worst time for scum, they'd be sure as hell on any train not them. One or both ON the train. So quick check of that and living now are: Kilava, Cast, Thyrllan, Silchas. Of those 4 one if not two scum (discounting symp) are guaranteed to be. I'm getting symp from this whole post of yours. Both masters on or one on one off. With you as symp that means 1+ of Kilava, Cast, Silchas. Putting out everyone not on the train then has one or no scum on.

Getting this one out by itself as it stood out a mile on re-reading.


I agree with Jalan again here, I'd assume at least one scum on the train, scum need to lynch as well as town.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:24 PM

Reading Jalan yesterday had me agreeing a lot with some things they said. Good that we had multiple directions for scum hunting here, and I see why all three players were under scrutiny.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 07 April 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 9 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Ampelas, Cast, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Kilava ( Cast, Silchas Ruin )
2 Votes for Jalan ( Thyrllan, Ampelas )
2 Votes for Cast ( Kilava, Jalan )

Players not voted: Galain


Nothing to back this up. I know this is a quick reread but did I miss a case from Cast?

Fuck is this post;

View PostCast, on 07 April 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 07 April 2017 - 09:39 PM, said:

Oh really? What percentage do you have everyone else?


SR - 25%
Jalan - 75% - today has involved a lot of "suspicion" of Kilava, but it also marked a large increase in activity and trying to push the thread to vote me when pressure stated setting on Kilava.

Kil- 98%. Nuff said.

Everyone else is around 60%.


WTF is this?



Anyway, I asked Cast for a case yesterday and I did not get one.

View PostCast, on 06 April 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

I'm also willing to lay a vote now because I really do believe they are either paired killers or killer/symp. I prefer an Amp vote, but I don't think it will gain the needed votes. I will back a Kilava vote.

Vote Kilava



I got a vote but that is about it.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:48 PM

View PostCast, on 03 April 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

Checking in.

I'll agree with the sentiment that the Alt rotation is nice. Hell, I had to look up who the fuck my alt is. I obviously knew it was one of the hounds, but I'd forgotten most of the Hounds of Light.


Does not engage in banter yet choose the safe avatar talk option, the checking in option.

Kilava votes Cast early day one, as an alternative to them. Distancing from partner? Putting pressure on a player?

Nimander as symp?

View PostNimander Golit, on 04 April 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

judgement of posts with out putting forth any thoughts of your own is a funny expression because judging posts is literally putting forth thoughts of one's own.

I called you out because you picked a post and said it looks like signaling except you don't know what it's signaling. It's like saying this post is scummy except I don't know what's scummy about it. That's a poor play. You don't like me calling it out? Make a better one. Or keep suggesting I'm a symp because I didn't like your post. Your call ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On another note, we have some no-shows around here. Cast and Denul already have votes to their names, so let's poke the last one.

vote Silchas Ruin



Adding an extra name instead of Cast...

To which Barghast points out

View PostBarghast, on 04 April 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

It isn't poor play. Leaving a post that I found suspicious with out comment would have been poor play. This way later in the game I can go back and look at things that I have found suspicious and see if that links with something else. Plus pointing it out asks others to also see.

Your comment was a dismissal as if you alone have the moral and thread authority to know what is suspicious. It is that false judgement that you are now trying to down play. Which I find to be suspicious in your posts. Your dislike of my post is not at play. It is the way you dismissed my post that is at play. There is a distinction that you seem not to understand. It is your style of judgemental posts that a good symp would use to set themselves us as a helpful town who others seek out and think may be town as well. Most symps do this almost unconsciously as it is a fairly easily way to seem to be town. There are also a handful of players who do this regardless of whether they are a symp or not. I am not sure what category you fit in, but it is also suspicious behavior that I am pointing out.



This would indicate a Cast/Silchas partnership.

Cast then defends Barghast..

View PostCast, on 04 April 2017 - 09:13 PM, said:

I don't think Barghast is in a particularly scummy position at the moment. He's gone out of the way to both draw distinction for himself as well as getting others actively participating in dragonsex. He's also pushing for people to think themselves while building cases, instead of piggybacking on lazy cases.

As far as day 1 goes, I feel he's actually been the one that had done town the most good.


Then Cast builds a case of Barghast as scum. Then becomes the vote pivot on Rashan, placing him in the lead with three votes


Kilava mentions Merrid as a possible Cast symp because of that early day two analysis, so there's a point there.

Although Kilava says this about Cast

View PostKilava, on 06 April 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

Osseric is making the most sense atm. Merrid appears to be trying.

Denul and Galain are non-entities, and Cast... I need to re-read, because I'm blanking on stuff wot he actually said.

I need to figure out if I think Ampeals is using scummy logic because he's scum, or because he's being an idiot. But that'll wait until tomorrow, because I don't want to go to bed with a headache.

tbc...

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 03:51 PM

We are in day two here;

View PostCast, on 06 April 2017 - 05:04 AM, said:

View PostKilava, on 06 April 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

Osseric is making the most sense atm. Merrid appears to be trying.

Denul and Galain are non-entities, and Cast... I need to re-read, because I'm blanking on stuff wot he actually said.

I need to figure out if I think Ampeals is using scummy logic because he's scum, or because he's being an idiot. But that'll wait until tomorrow, because I don't want to go to bed with a headache.


Yeah, anything you look for on me is going to be day 1.
I've been non-existent today. Life has seriously gotten under my skin and I've been away from the internet all day.

I'm only posting something now to avoid the modkill and taking a moment to see if there is anything that looks likely enough to secure a vote to go into day 3 to help support. I should be more useful going forward after I get some sleep.


View PostMerrid, on 06 April 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

What I find interesting is all the accusations and votes against me based only on a couple of quotes from my day 1 play. Ampelas is presenting a very selective picture


Similar sort of voice, signalling?

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