[HoosierDaddy]

You are welcome scum.

[Kilava]

What, my last PM didn"t make it to SH? I am dissapoint.

[Kilava]

Sigh, JPK, wh didn"t you do your usual suicide act? THAT made me think you were probably scum!,

[Kilava]

Vengeance, on 05 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

Maccy comes from the school of thought on vigs that you use them early and often if you can. Otherwise you may die and not use your vig which would be a shame. Obviously using a vig on night 1 is mildly moronic and vigs should be saved until such time as you have some kind of realistic idea of whom might potentially be scum. Basically Maccy just uses his vig on the person who irritates him the most on day 1.

Which is idiotic. When I have a vig I try to alt someone and then kill them. At least then I get the benefit of killing someone on my personal hit list.

When I have a vig I tend to forget about, and play RI. THAT is the smart play.

[Khellendros]

Kilava, on 11 April 2017 - 11:23 PM, said:

What, my last PM didn"t make it to SH? I am dissapoint.

Blend usually posts PMs after the game is over.


Thanks for the game mods! Was good fun - I've now both made and destroyed this cult in successive games

[Khellendros]

Siergiej, on 05 April 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

Few things in life are better than watching Tatts and Ment get in a shouting match.

Haha, so true!

[Kilava]

My thought of the day was:

"Spoilers must be shouting at us for not having lynched Khell yet" .

But yeah. Between working, and selling my life away to the bank through the institution of mortgage, I was way too busy to focus properly. And JPK was just way too suspicious, though I was considering trying to push for you before that lynch happened.

[HoosierDaddy]

For whatever reason I thought Ment was already gone from this game. No wonder I thought he was scum. I ALWAYS think he is scum until I alt him. Didn't alt him this game thinking he was gone already.

[Kilava]

Khellendros, on 11 April 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 05 April 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

Few things in life are better than watching Tatts and Ment get in a shouting match.

Haha, so true!

Let'sbe honest, this was weak. I didn't even try to get him lynched back!

[Kilava]

HoosierDaddy, on 11 April 2017 - 11:31 PM, said:

For whatever reason I thought Ment was already gone from this game. No wonder I thought he was scum. I ALWAYS think he is scum until I alt him. Didn't alt him this game thinking he was gone already.

L
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[HoosierDaddy]

Also glad I got to take some potshots at Mac for the early vig, but at least he tried to have some strategy there. Frankly, vig is a bad town role and actually tends to unbalance things. Guard is much better.

[Macros]

Seems my gut would actually have been right this end game. Could have done the town a solid holding it and taking out thyr

[Messremb]

Khellendros, on 11 April 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

Thanks for the game mods! Was good fun - I've now both made and destroyed this cult in successive games

You're not known as the Saboteur for nothing...

[Messremb]

Macros, on 12 April 2017 - 05:40 AM, said:

Seems my gut would actually have been right this end game. Could have done the town a solid holding it and taking out thyr

You were too solidly town-Mac to let live.

I was judging kills pretty much on how town I thought someone was regardless of their stance on us, having an endgame full of dubious characters is ideal for scum.

[Path-Shaper]

Kilava:

Kilava, on 03 April 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

Yay, RI again!

What are the chances tatts is healer and khell is vig (inheriting roles and all, alal Rot3K?)

*that would also make HD and ST 2/3s of the scum team, so I doubt you'd do smth like that*.

Nah, the roles were completely randomized without taking into account who held them in the previous game.

Kilava, on 03 April 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Yeah, I figured. Would be funny if someone did get a continuous role by chance though!

I choose to take credit for no one knowing who the vig is, because as the gossip girl I died last game, . It was my little moral victory.

Kilava, on 04 April 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

Ugh, I'm always skeptical of "cases" based on D1 interactions, for 2 reasons:

1) some people (myself included) are purely shooting the shit, with no fucks given how what they say can be interpreted.

2) let's call a spade a spade- you are basically making a symping case. And I already gave my strong opinion on those in the aftermath of the Venice game.

I'm tempted to call Ampelas hard on that, but I got an afternoon hearing today, so my office time is limited, and I can't get into a prolonged slug fest over it.

Kilava, on 04 April 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

Barghast's lecturing tone reminds me of Venge. But there's too much punctuation for it to be Venge, unless he's trying to hide, hmm.

I am unsure who to suspect yet. I suspect my head's not really gonna be in the game until tomorrow.

Kilava, on 04 April 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

That shrugging ascii pic is basically Sier'g signature by now.

Kilava, on 05 April 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

I'm getting the annoying feeling that Ampelas is tatts and he's picking on me because.... Reasons.

I am honestly not in the proper headspace to slug it out with him again, not now when I have a house-purchasing headache to deal with.

I'll check to see if I feel he's scum, if he seems like a misguided inno, I may just let him drop me.

Kilava, on 05 April 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

I am frustrated with Ampelas' dogged pursuit of me, but not overly so. This suggests he's not scum, just an idiot.

So not gonna fight this inevitable train too hard, as there's way too much house-buying-related-crap to do. And I gotta fit working somewhere in there, too...

Kilava, on 06 April 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

I would be shocked if I picked both cast and Jalan as scum correctly. It's probably a tag teamof like, Denul and Thyr, with Tatts as a symp.

Kilava, on 06 April 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

Pro tip to whomever SR is: don't try playing the meta game if you don't know WTF you are doing.

I mean, seriously, WTF was that?

Kilava, on 06 April 2017 - 07:20 PM, said:

Ah, SR is HD. Well, he's sure not in a fence-sitting mood today. That would suggest more likely town?

Kilava, on 06 April 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

I know it's 4 30pm on a Thursday, but....


Did HD start posting drunken rants to spoilers? He's usually not this erratic when sober.

Kilava, on 06 April 2017 - 10:00 PM, said:

Oh, hey, wifom time!
ST wanted to look @ Jalan. Is that why they killed him?

Kilava, on 06 April 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

HD is either scum playing up the paranoia aimed at me.

OR


He sincerely believes he can pigeon-hole my play style based on my role.

Which is dumb, since everyone knows I play RI and scum basically the same (it's why I'm horrible when I have a role of any sort), and the biggest constraint on my actual posting is RL.

But I'm not sure he's scum yet, which is a problem.

Kilava, on 08 April 2017 - 02:34 AM, said:

hmmm. JPK's unwillingness to suicide this game makes me think he may not be RI. but that's really bad meta.

Kilava, on 11 April 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

Somehow I'm sure spoilers are full of posts like "Why have they not lynched Khell yet?" ...

[Path-Shaper]

Cast:

Cast, on 07 April 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Hmm. Venge dead night 1. Why isn't anyone else seriously looking at Ment for this? I haven't even been around that long, all things considered, but damnit that's obvious!

Cast, on 10 April 2017 - 05:43 PM, said:

I'm fucked. Fucked fucked fucked.

[Path-Shaper]

Galain:

Galain, on 03 April 2017 - 03:05 PM, said:

so I'm pro town one shot vig?

Yeppers!

Galain, on 03 April 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

shoot tatts in the face

Gotta give me an alt Mac.

I kind of lol'd when I saw that you flipped Vig again.

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 05:56 AM, said:

Again?
I don't think I've been vig in a long time.
I caught healer twice in a row

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Is Ossetic omnomnomnom or jpk?

Path-Shaper, on 04 April 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 05:56 AM, said:

Again?
I don't think I've been vig in a long time.
I caught healer twice in a row

I feel like you were a vig not too long ago and that you spent your load on night 1 on Tatts.

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

Maybe 4/5 ago possibly.

Sounds vaguely familiar

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

I think Barghasts the symp

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

Can I give Nimander Vomit or is it bad form to give off of a purely gut instinct of puppy dog following?

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

Hahahaha
Golit autocorrect.

Seriously considering it though.

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

Note to spoiler heaven for post game.

I usually fuck up with my vig.

Like pro style.

So I'm considering taking a pitch with gut on night one for the following logic

1 - I may die
2 - better I fuck up sooner rather than later
3 - my choice will be based on someone I feel is scummy as so if I'm right, winner, wrong one scummy player off the list for mis lynching.


I'm fairly sold that the early shot is pro town for me.

Given my end game history this last 6 mo the or so, I'm better following gut now than losing my temper later and ry screwing the pooch

Galain, on 04 April 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

Night choices:


Kill Barghast.


If lynched kill Nimander Vomit

Galain, on 05 April 2017 - 05:46 AM, said:

Well shit me that was a spectacularly bad call.

I'm surely blend is roaring with laughter.

Both my suspects died.

God damnit but I always see venge, tatts and bliss as scum when they are town.

Going to have to dig into the trains now then

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

Galain, on 05 April 2017 - 05:46 AM, said:

I'm surely blend is roaring with laughter.

Galain, on 06 April 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

Weird colours??
Looks totally normal on my phone, odd

Yes it's a vote.
What does it come up on your screen as? Only tags I used were bold

It's like dark blue, and barely visible on the Malazan Empire skin background. When I quoted your text, there were like 20 color tags in the quote.

Anyway, thanks for confirming, I'll add your vote to the vote count.

Galain, on 06 April 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

Must have been because I copied and pasted or something.

Strange but noted for the future.


I think Thyrlan is a killer.

[Path-Shaper]

Silchas Ruin:

Silchas Ruin, on 06 April 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

I pretty much hate modern mafia. But whatevs.

If Cast keeps posting like this my vote is going there. Don't try to take over the thread, especially with shit posts like is going on now.

Silchas Ruin, on 06 April 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

Nope. Kilava. Have fun buddy! See the remove vote and the instant shit posting.

Silchas Ruin, on 07 April 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

I'm a hot mess. Going to love reading SH.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas:

Ampelas, on 03 April 2017 - 02:16 PM, said:

The gift is strong in me. Use this wisely

Ampelas, on 04 April 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

I have a strong feeling that I will be targeted by the night kill.

Ampelas, on 05 April 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

10 Players still alive: Ampelas, Cast, Denul, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Merrid, Osseric, Silchas Ruin, Thyrllan

1. JPK
2. Ment
3. Mess
4. ST
5. Tatts
9. Macros
10. Bliss
11. Andorion
12. Khell
13. HD

The reason's both Nimander and Barghast are dead.

I suck at alting but I believe HD, Ment or ST are the killers.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

Current players;

Time of day most active, Discussions entered, Cases commented on.
Town mindset vs scum mindset

Killed players;

Quick look at Nimander, Barghast and Osseric. I am guessing Barghast was vigged. So more interested in Nimander and Osseric.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 07:50 AM, said:

ST is a clever player. So this post

Osseric, on 03 April 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

I see Blend has rotated some older alts back into circulation, nice!

The one downside is that the avatars are often harder to tell apart - we might need to fix that. Rashan, Kilava and Nimander Golit all look a bit gloomy...

Raises possible symp doubts. I'll try look at both perspectives, his motivation as town and symp, after all, scum killed him.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

Someone else picked out this post, could be an overt signal.

Osseric, on 03 April 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 03 April 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

To elaborate Osseric, naming three people in one post. Trying to look like a symp? I do not believe you.

Spoiler

somethingyournot.gif

[sarcasm]
Yeah, I'm symp-y McSymperson, and by chance all of my three masters have dark coloured avatars so I just thought I'd point that out on thread!
[/sarcasm]

(this points at Kilava as scum)

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 07:55 AM, said:

Like does ST make mistakes? Is this even possible

Osseric, on 03 April 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 03 April 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

*Oi, what is that"
"Someone rubbing their eye"
"Oh"

I did not call you a symp ole boy.

*checks back*

Ampelas, on 03 April 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

To elaborate Osseric, naming three people in one post. Trying to look like a symp? I do not believe you.

Spoiler

somethingyournot.gif

So you didn't, my mistake.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 April 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

Trying hard to show our allegiance, are we?

Aimed at Kilava

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

Osseric, on 04 April 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

Well this has been one of the filthiest Day 1s in a while. I blame Venge.




Lots of players sitting on the sidelines. One in particular caught my eye:

Denul, on 03 April 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Here and catching up!

At the top of page two, so catching up won't have taken any time at all. But no subsequent thoughts about the game, no joining in the RP. He saw he could just stay low, and that's wjat he did.

Vote Denul




EDIT: Formatting

Thinking possible connections, if Denul is scum then that makes Kilava his partner. Osseric sympage.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:14 AM, said:

Jalan, on 04 April 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

Osseric, on 04 April 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 04 April 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

Dinivan isn't in the game Although I bet he wishes he is!

Ah, oops. For some reason I was assuming that it was just an alt I hadn't heard of.

Before my time but looks like a few good games in the 50-90 range. A few days sooner and he/she could have signed up for this one...

Jalan took the time to go back and look at when a player may have played in a mafia game. Yet has been very vacant for the entire game. Interesting, in fact, this thought goes on thread.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 04 April 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

Why would scum go into dragonsex banter if they have off-thread comms? I mean, 1 of them sure, but both? Why would they give us leads to follow?

Also, yes, I pointed out the post that I found fishy. Not other posts that were completely unrelated. Crazy, I know.

And you were quoted by me. I must be your symp.

One engaged and one not engaged. May look out for that.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

Game plan today may to go after someone other than Kilava, If Oss was the symp then today is not d day.

I know we got to look at it like it is though, and Oss may have not been the symp.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

Ment said I would be killed if he was scum, playing on this?

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

Venge leaning towards Nimander as symp

Barghast, on 04 April 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 04 April 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

judgement of posts with out putting forth any thoughts of your own is a funny expression because judging posts is literally putting forth thoughts of one's own.

I called you out because you picked a post and said it looks like signaling except you don't know what it's signaling. It's like saying this post is scummy except I don't know what's scummy about it. That's a poor play. You don't like me calling it out? Make a better one. Or keep suggesting I'm a symp because I didn't like your post. Your call ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On another note, we have some no-shows around here. Cast and Denul already have votes to their names, so let's poke the last one.

vote Silchas Ruin

It isn't poor play. Leaving a post that I found suspicious with out comment would have been poor play. This way later in the game I can go back and look at things that I have found suspicious and see if that links with something else. Plus pointing it out asks others to also see.

Your comment was a dismissal as if you alone have the moral and thread authority to know what is suspicious. It is that false judgement that you are now trying to down play. Which I find to be suspicious in your posts. Your dislike of my post is not at play. It is the way you dismissed my post that is at play. There is a distinction that you seem not to understand. It is your style of judgemental posts that a good symp would use to set themselves us as a helpful town who others seek out and think may be town as well. Most symps do this almost unconsciously as it is a fairly easily way to seem to be town. There are also a handful of players who do this regardless of whether they are a symp or not. I am not sure what category you fit in, but it is also suspicious behavior that I am pointing out.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 04 April 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

So, we have two signalling accusations:

Osseric at Rashan, Kilava, and me (brought up by Ampelas).
Barghast at Ampelas, Rashan, and themselves (brought up by Merrid).

The common denominator is Rashan, tho Ampelas pointed at him in their scenario. Early distancing?

Only Kilava alive from this post.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

Osseric, on 04 April 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

FWIW, I'm not a huge fan of the Barghast or Rashan trains. Both of them have been active and trying to make connections with other players to see what happens when they do a little bantering. That's useful behaviour that I don't think makes them particularly good Day 1 lynch candidates.

This is town side of Osseric.

Ampelas, on 07 April 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

Buttering me up.

Osseric, on 04 April 2017 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hmm, not convinced by your reasoning Cast. Ampelas has been playing as close to a textbook town game as you can, really. I don't see him being part of a scum messaging ring like you're implying. Barghast and Rashan are less clear cut, but as I've said before I don't really think their banter was all that scummy.