[Gamelon]

Serc, on 28 March 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

Alkend, on 22 March 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't like Gamelon's play. His posts are overly dramatic, without making any salient points. He questions everyone's cases, but has not placed his own vote. He's running up a post count, but says mostly nothing.

Basically, feels like he's symping and ought to be ignored.

Although this does not look like Alkend symping you.

Well, it would be clever symping. He makes quite a few posts about how you guys should just ignore me, and trying to have everyone believe that I'm likely a symp, so no need to kill me off now. It's actually pretty great as a symp move, because it makes it look like he's trying to protect me, but not completely directly. And then when we swing back around to these thoughts, if you take his suggestions at face value, it makes it look like I'm the symp, and during DDay, lynching a symp is perfectly acceptable. Anyway, it's just a thought, as I have to consider everyone at this point.

[Gamelon]

Serc, on 28 March 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

Alright, so here's another interesting post...

Bek Okhan, on 23 March 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

Also, this doesn't add up:

Fanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

On the train I dislike Mockra the most (obviously) but Alkend has been racking up the symp points all day

Fanderay, on 23 March 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

I'm a gambling man, and my bet is that scum didn't see the reveal in time to change kill choice to me.
I only put the Hana's choice in post reveal, I was going to save my heals till a vpi needed them.

Judging by the posting times, your main candidate for scum - Mockra - was likely to be around when you revealed. Actually, the only people from your train who were not around at timeout were Alkend and Iparth.

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Bek makes a good point. What if Fanderay really was a healer, really DID heal Hanas, and Alkend was a killer who had chosen Hanas as a kill target for the same reasons Fanderay used to justify his Night 1 heal of Hanas during Day 2?



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Nope.

I mean, one, I'm not convinced yet by your 'reveal.'

Two, and take this one with like a whole shaker of salt, but there's nothing anywhere that says there can't have been two healers in the game. I know it's not very likely, in fact, almost completely unlikely, but it's just a thought I had.

[Alkend]

Frankly, I remain unconvinced a symp would suicide like Mac did. I'm obviously skeptical about healing Hanas, but rthen again, it was Mac, and his gut takes him weird places

And the timing of Serc's reveal on potential D-day is suspicious as fuck.

I mean, it's based on a making a symp accusation, which is unprovable to begin with.

I'm tempted to take him up on his offer and vote night, just in case I am currently being an idiot who's buying into the Game & Mac's dog and pony show.

[Gamelon]

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

Frankly, I remain unconvinced a symp would suicide like Mac did. I'm obviously skeptical about healing Hanas, but rthen again, it was Mac, and his gut takes him weird places

Considering the reveal happened at like 30 minutes before timeout, I could see Macros doing something like that as a last ditch effort.

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And the timing of Serc's reveal on potential D-day is suspicious as fuck.

I mean, it's based on a making a symp accusation, which is unprovable to begin with.

I'm tempted to take him up on his offer and vote night, just in case I am currently being an idiot who's buying into the Game & Mac's dog and pony show.

You will be getting no support from me for a Night vote. This game has gone too many days without a lynch. Put some work into it, have a look at players, and let's actually lynch someone.

[Alkend]

Last ditch reveal, yes. Self-vote? I don't see it from Mac as a ploy. Why self-vote as scum???

My preferences aren't very original, I'm afraid. Mockra is following Serc all game. Therefore I remain inclined to vote Serc.

And if it's Okaros coasting to victory under the radar, well he can go fuck himself.

[Okaros]

Serc revealed yesterday for anyone who was paying attention.

Serc, on 27 March 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

You are right Alkend, I did want to lynch Fanderay because I did not believe his reveal. I still don't. Think on that a little.

His immediate reaction to the Fandy reveal with this in mind makes more sense as to why he was so fast to start the Fandy train again on day 2.

[Gamelon]

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Last ditch reveal, yes. Self-vote? I don't see it from Mac as a ploy. Why self-vote as scum???

Well, see, this is a better point. But if he was a symp, he could self-vote as scum to throw everyone off. If we all believe he was town and he was in fact scum, then it throws off things like our DDay count, any future healer reveals, etc...

I certainly agree with you that Mockra is almost definitely scum, but I'm on the fence right now about the Serc reveal.

[Alkend]

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Last ditch reveal, yes. Self-vote? I don't see it from Mac as a ploy. Why self-vote as scum???

Well, see, this is a better point. But if he was a symp, he could self-vote as scum to throw everyone off. If we all believe he was town and he was in fact scum, then it throws off things like our DDay count, any future healer reveals, etc...

I certainly agree with you that Mockra is almost definitely scum, but I'm on the fence right now about the Serc reveal.

Which is precisely the situation I find myself in.

Do I take the complex explanation (Mac was a symp who fake-revealed to confuse everyone)

Or the simple one (Mac's reveal was genuine, Serc is scum who speed-lynched him and is now fake-revealing to seal the deal on D-day?)

[Okaros]

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Last ditch reveal, yes. Self-vote? I don't see it from Mac as a ploy. Why self-vote as scum???

Well, see, this is a better point. But if he was a symp, he could self-vote as scum to throw everyone off. If we all believe he was town and he was in fact scum, then it throws off things like our DDay count, any future healer reveals, etc...

I certainly agree with you that Mockra is almost definitely scum, but I'm on the fence right now about the Serc reveal.

Look, I've been all for a Mockra lynch since early yesterday. There are several of you who have him down as scum. Serc just leaves too many questions open to risk lynching him at this point. Why are you guys pussyfooting around the Serc issue like this when we have another player that is just as likely to be scum. As an added bonus, we don't risk lynching a revealed healer.

Finally, I'm still not sure about the Serc reveal. I agree with the group that doesn't see Macros as the type to fake-reveal and then suicide.

[Gamelon]

To be fair, Okaros, my vote is currently sitting firmly on Mockra.

[Gamelon]

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

[Gamelon]

Mind you, I guess that argument could just as easily be flipped back onto me. So again we're left with either Mockra or I am scum.

[Alkend]

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

What hammer? last PS update has you a vote apiece.

[Gamelon]

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

What hammer? last PS update has you a vote apiece.

I should have looked at the votes / thought about it a bit before posting, but I was working on the mistaken assumption that there are 2 scum left and we only needed 3 votes to lynch, so all it would take is for the 2 scum to just vote whoever is the non-scum train and tada, they win the game. However, I see now that it's 4 votes to lynch, so what I said doesn't actually make sense. Sorry.

[Mockra]

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

There's still the possibility the two scum don't know about each other at all if there are two left, or you know it's otherwise?

I agree with dun

dun

dun

Serc that Gamelon seems to be panicking, his play since Serc's reveal has been very scummy. Suddenly he went from blinkered Mockra/Serc voter who seemed content with how the game is going to throwing suspicions in all directions. Plus the spike of activity.

I'm not voting yet though.

[Alkend]

Mockra, on 28 March 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

There's still the possibility the two scum don't know about each other at all if there are two left, or you know it's otherwise?

I agree with dun

dun

dun

Serc that Gamelon seems to be panicking, his play since Serc's reveal has been very scummy. Suddenly he went from blinkered Mockra/Serc voter who seemed content with how the game is going to throwing suspicions in all directions. Plus the spike of activity.

I'm not voting yet though.

Just as you have been.


All.


Game.



Long.


vote Serc

Surely I'm not the only one who finds that incredibly odd?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 42 hours and 45 minutes remaining
6 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Mockra, Okaros, Serc

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mockra ( Gamelon )
1 Vote for Serc ( Alkend )
1 Vote for Gamelon ( Serc )

Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Mockra, Okaros

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on 28 March 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Gamelon seems to be panicking, his play since Serc's reveal has been very scummy. Suddenly he went from blinkered Mockra/Serc voter who seemed content with how the game is going to throwing suspicions in all directions. Plus the spike of activity.

I'm not voting yet though.

Well, my vote is very firmly placed on you, so I am still pretty blinkered on you sir. I'm allowing for the possibility that Serc is being genuine with his reveal. And it's fucking DDay, of course I am looking at everyone. You should be too, except that you're scum, so why bother, right?

[Gamelon]

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 March 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

There's still the possibility the two scum don't know about each other at all if there are two left, or you know it's otherwise?

I agree with dun

dun

dun

Serc that Gamelon seems to be panicking, his play since Serc's reveal has been very scummy. Suddenly he went from blinkered Mockra/Serc voter who seemed content with how the game is going to throwing suspicions in all directions. Plus the spike of activity.

I'm not voting yet though.

Just as you have been.


All.


Game.



Long.


vote Serc

Surely I'm not the only one who finds that incredibly odd?

It is odd, but what if Serc's reveal is genuine? Wouldn't you agree that it's likely that if anything Mockra is just a symp? A vote for a symp on DDay is still a vote for scum.

[Okaros]

Alkend, on 28 March 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 March 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 28 March 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Considering everyone who is still in the game has now said something, and there's no scum hammer, I think it's even more likely that Mockra is scum.

There's still the possibility the two scum don't know about each other at all if there are two left, or you know it's otherwise?

I agree with dun

dun

dun

Serc that Gamelon seems to be panicking, his play since Serc's reveal has been very scummy. Suddenly he went from blinkered Mockra/Serc voter who seemed content with how the game is going to throwing suspicions in all directions. Plus the spike of activity.

I'm not voting yet though.

Just as you have been.


All.


Game.



Long.


vote Serc

Surely I'm not the only one who finds that incredibly odd?

Wait a minute actually. After a reread, I think that Serc's reveal is legit and that Mockra is VPI'd with him.

Mockra, Serc, who do you think is likely for Game's second if it wasn't Macros?