[garden_rake]

every time you ask this people will talk at length about this and that..... and this, truth is dont think anyones got conrete answers thats why the anticipation for further books is so high

[Cluracan AbSylvas]

... this question has been discussed at great length in a number of different forums and threads here. Nothing concrete has been determined.

Have a blast reading the wild postulations on ascendants.

-- Clu

[Folken]

There is no concrete answer on how one becomes an ascendant. There are several paths to becoming an ascendant and countless characters have ascended through countless means. Becoming an ascendant doesn't mean you will live forever, you could live forever if no one manages to kill you. But you won't age, or die of natural causes. Someone can still kill you though.

You can't be an ascendant from birth, although there is no proof that its not possible. We just haven't seen such cases.

You don't have to be a mage to become an ascendant, but once you do ascend you gain acess to magic and what not. As is evident with Ganoes Paran (although there are those here who don't think he is one)

On the issue of the warren, I believe that only Gods have absolute control over a warren. Such as Shadowthrone. Then there are ascendants like Brood who have acess to warren's but don't control it absolutely. There is a neat discussion in the Bonehunters Forum on this topic. Feel free to wander there if you wish. Unless ofcourse it got deleted in the transfer:(

[Folken]

Rake is technically a God, he just hasn't formally accepted that title. But being a God/Ascendant once again has nothing to do with powerlevel. We've seen mortals who are capable of insane feats.

And when it says that their calim to Shadowrealm is being contested, meaning there are just others coming to lay claim to that releam. The Edur don't have acess to their own magic anymore. They relied on the Andii Wraiths for their magic.