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#261 User is offline   Pallid 

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:03 PM

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

 Gamelon, on 02 February 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

 Tulas Shorn, on 01 February 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

Oh look at that, killing the Survivor accomplished so much.

And are you serious Trake? First, I'm accused of defending Omtose hard so they might be on the same faction as me, and then, when it turns out that they are indeed the survivor, you say it's suspicious that people would be defending the survivor hard??

How about this: It wasn't defending, it was just pointing out some reasonable logical sense, which only a couple of other people seem to get.


Hang on a minute - Trake never even mentions you! He fingers me and Alkend:

 Trake, on 01 February 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I'm wondering now, why would Alkend and Gameleon stick their necks out to defend Omtose? Did they really want a 10 AP person walking around determining the winner of this game?

Is this a slip? Tulas and Alkend might be run by the same player.


Or you two. TS is either low posting like a bastard because they're a leader or they're a puppet.



So we know Tulas and either Alkend or Gameleon are the same person. Sorrit decided to focus on Trake though.

Is it possible that Sorrit did a find on Trake last night and he's pushing for Trake's lynch, with Kesso and Bek being either his puppets or on his team (Sorrit being the faction leader)?

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

 Mockra, on 02 February 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Otherwise, you guys are right. I'm a puppet, and lynching me will be nothing but a waste of your time.

I can confirm this by self-voting at l-1 if you'd like. My vote holds no weight.


Hang on just a moment here. You're making the claim of being a puppet. Everyone then piles off your train. That stinks.

All this "don't lynch puppets" BS can only be coming from puppets/puppeteers because no-one is hitting them at night and they give the puppeteers big advantages. Get rid of them any way possible.

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Vote Mockra



Ok. Waste the lynch today on something that has 1 hp. That makes sense.

Oh, and another thing... Did you like it when I touched you last night Kesso? I hope you did, because I'm really looking forward to it again tonight.

Y'all are gonna feel real stupid when you figure out who my real alt is.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:10 PM

 Pallid, on 02 February 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

 Gamelon, on 02 February 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

 Tulas Shorn, on 01 February 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

Oh look at that, killing the Survivor accomplished so much.

And are you serious Trake? First, I'm accused of defending Omtose hard so they might be on the same faction as me, and then, when it turns out that they are indeed the survivor, you say it's suspicious that people would be defending the survivor hard??

How about this: It wasn't defending, it was just pointing out some reasonable logical sense, which only a couple of other people seem to get.


Hang on a minute - Trake never even mentions you! He fingers me and Alkend:

 Trake, on 01 February 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I'm wondering now, why would Alkend and Gameleon stick their necks out to defend Omtose? Did they really want a 10 AP person walking around determining the winner of this game?

Is this a slip? Tulas and Alkend might be run by the same player.


Or you two. TS is either low posting like a bastard because they're a leader or they're a puppet.



So we know Tulas and either Alkend or Gameleon are the same person. Sorrit decided to focus on Trake though.

Is it possible that Sorrit did a find on Trake last night and he's pushing for Trake's lynch, with Kesso and Bek being either his puppets or on his team (Sorrit being the faction leader)?



We are not certain about Tulas Alkend and Gamelon, but I do like that catch and it wouldn't be terribly surprising to me if Alkend and Tulas were the same person, wouldn't expect it that much from Gamelon though, even without teh fact that it was Gamelon who pointed it out.

I chose Trake over this because I do believe that could have been a leader's slip behind Mockra alt, whereas for the above we only have a possible master and a puppet and that's all.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:10 PM

 Mockra, on 02 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Oh, and another thing... Did you like it when I touched you last night Kesso? I hope you did, because I'm really looking forward to it again tonight.

Y'all are gonna feel real stupid when you figure out who my real alt is.


That is why you kill puppets.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:10 PM

 Pallid, on 02 February 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

 Gamelon, on 02 February 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

 Tulas Shorn, on 01 February 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

Oh look at that, killing the Survivor accomplished so much.

And are you serious Trake? First, I'm accused of defending Omtose hard so they might be on the same faction as me, and then, when it turns out that they are indeed the survivor, you say it's suspicious that people would be defending the survivor hard??

How about this: It wasn't defending, it was just pointing out some reasonable logical sense, which only a couple of other people seem to get.


Hang on a minute - Trake never even mentions you! He fingers me and Alkend:

 Trake, on 01 February 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I'm wondering now, why would Alkend and Gameleon stick their necks out to defend Omtose? Did they really want a 10 AP person walking around determining the winner of this game?

Is this a slip? Tulas and Alkend might be run by the same player.


Or you two. TS is either low posting like a bastard because they're a leader or they're a puppet.



So we know Tulas and either Alkend or Gameleon are the same person. Sorrit decided to focus on Trake though.

Is it possible that Sorrit did a find on Trake last night and he's pushing for Trake's lynch, with Kesso and Bek being either his puppets or on his team (Sorrit being the faction leader)?


No, someone has speculated based on TS apparently being caught out having an opinion and being missed off of someones list of those with that opinon. TS did voice that in one of their 6 posts.

Gamelon and I at least can't be the same person unless I never sleep.

Sorrit could have done a find. Why you would think he had though...?

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:14 PM

 Mockra, on 02 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Ok. Waste the lynch today on something that has 1 hp. That makes sense.


For the record, you don't like getting your "1HP puppet" lynched. That's enough reason for me to vote it.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:32 PM

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 08:10 PM, said:


No, someone has speculated based on TS apparently being caught out having an opinion and being missed off of someones list of those with that opinon. TS did voice that in one of their 6 posts.

Gamelon and I at least can't be the same person unless I never sleep.

Sorrit could have done a find. Why you would think he had though...?


Suspecting that Mockra is a leader and trying to lynch them had a little logic behind it. Mockra said something that could be construed as suspicious.

Suspecting that Mockra is a puppet and being an idiot is something I could maybe accept as logical. (and it is what I'm willing to believe based on the reveal for now)

Suspecting that Mockra is being controlled by a faction leader, but isn't the leader's main alt. Then assuming that Trake is controlling Mockra and is therefore the leader's main alt and we should lynch him has way too many assumptions in it. I don't think Sorrit would have gone through the trouble of creating such a flimsy case without having some prior knowledge about Trake's faction. Finally, it's rather weird that so many people followed him so quickly with so little evidence (especially since there was another viable lynch train going on).

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:36 PM

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

 Sorrit, on 02 February 2017 - 07:44 PM, said:

The Chains of continuous posts that preceded the post of mine fortified my suspicions about Mockra being a puppet, I believed we would jst lost another day if we lynched Mockra. By lynching the master we will also get all of the puppets they possess, maybe it's more than one. Whoever is Mockra's master it's still the same person who possibly slipped in Mockra alt so that argument carries over all of their alts.


I hate to challenge your assertion here but didn't puppets live on after the death of masters in the last games? Plus that wasn't a full CF we got meaning there's a chance of returning from the dead and picking up those puppets strings again.


I don't recall that ever happenning, Yeah there probably is unless Blend has decided for only partial CFs for the whole duration of game as to not indicate whether or not any ressurections are in play. Yeah if you really want to take someone having the ability to ressurect their puppets, why bother lynching them in the first palce instead of their master?

Your spike in activity is interesting, hit a nerve there with Trake?

 Pallid, on 02 February 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 08:10 PM, said:

No, someone has speculated based on TS apparently being caught out having an opinion and being missed off of someones list of those with that opinon. TS did voice that in one of their 6 posts.

Gamelon and I at least can't be the same person unless I never sleep.

Sorrit could have done a find. Why you would think he had though...?


Suspecting that Mockra is a leader and trying to lynch them had a little logic behind it. Mockra said something that could be construed as suspicious.

Suspecting that Mockra is a puppet and being an idiot is something I could maybe accept as logical. (and it is what I'm willing to believe based on the reveal for now)

Suspecting that Mockra is being controlled by a faction leader, but isn't the leader's main alt. Then assuming that Trake is controlling Mockra and is therefore the leader's main alt and we should lynch him has way too many assumptions in it. I don't think Sorrit would have gone through the trouble of creating such a flimsy case without having some prior knowledge about Trake's faction. Finally, it's rather weird that so many people followed him so quickly with so little evidence (especially since there was another viable lynch train going on).


Well it was better than lynching someone who I believed to be a puppet. The two trains were quite in contradiction.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:36 PM

I agree with Pallid here - I don't see how we can take Sorrit at face value given how little evidence he threw out to support his case. If there were more to it than "I'm 100% sure guys, trust me!" then maybe I'd buy it. Is there anything more to it than that Sorrit, or are you bullshitting us here?

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:39 PM

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

 Mockra, on 02 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Ok. Waste the lynch today on something that has 1 hp. That makes sense.


For the record, you don't like getting your "1HP puppet" lynched. That's enough reason for me to vote it.


Wait, I don't like it? Thanks for telling me that.

Please waste your lynch here because you can't handle a little snark and semi-mockery (from Mockra - Ha!) and let me continue doing actual damage behind the scenes.

I WANT you to put your lynch here.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:41 PM

I think we have 3 options.

A) Go through with the Mockra lynch, because he's annoying and we're sure to get accusations of "resistance" and discuss it again on day 3 if we don't finish him off and he isn't NKed.
B ) Trust Sorrit and go through with the Trake lynch. I see no reason why to trust Sorrit though.
C) Go with my idea that Sorrit has a find and is accusing Trake based on the find and that the others are following their leader. Honestly, I would like to go through with this but It sounds too simplistic.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:43 PM

 Mockra, on 02 February 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

 Mockra, on 02 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Ok. Waste the lynch today on something that has 1 hp. That makes sense.


For the record, you don't like getting your "1HP puppet" lynched. That's enough reason for me to vote it.


Wait, I don't like it? Thanks for telling me that.

Please waste your lynch here because you can't handle a little snark and semi-mockery (from Mockra - Ha!) and let me continue doing actual damage behind the scenes.

I WANT you to put your lynch here.


Yeah Fuck that.

Vote Mockra


This shit can't be allowed to stand.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:44 PM

 Sorrit, on 02 February 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Your spike in activity is interesting, hit a nerve there with Trake?


My "spike in activity" occurs at roughly this time every day. Try harder.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:46 PM

 Pallid, on 02 February 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

C) Go with my idea that Sorrit has a find and is accusing Trake based on the find and that the others are following their leader. Honestly, I would like to go through with this but It sounds too simplistic.


SImplistic? Go through this day again and think about what I've done. Now think about me as a leader doing it. SIMPLISTIC?!

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:48 PM

Not really buying Alkend's line of argument. If you're not a faction leader, you realistically aren't going to be able to kill them at night. They're too strong. So only way it's happening is via lynch. Why would you waste your time on a puppets during the day?

But having said that, it's really not clear who is and isn't the puppet here. Sorrit has either just put up a last-ditch effort to save Mockra for some reason, or knows that Mockra is a puppet (but how? He has provided no evidence of this). Leaning towards the former at the moment, and if that's the case, then either (a) Mockra is Sorrit's leader, or (:lol: Mockra or Sorrit are played by the same person, who is puppeting one or the and trying to save both.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:50 PM

 Pallid, on 02 February 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 02 February 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

 Pallid, on 02 February 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

Sorrit suggests that Trake is a puppet and I can see that and killing puppets makes sense.

What I can't understand is why Kessobahnwould believe Sorrit so easily.

Kesso, Why?


Sorrit thinks that Trake is the master.



And that's a reason for a lynch why?


It's just curious that you followed Sorrit so quickly.


Actually I was in agreement about something being up with Mockra. Fanderay's point about Trake voting him along with meta made sense to me.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:51 PM

 Alkend, on 02 February 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

 Sorrit, on 02 February 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Your spike in activity is interesting, hit a nerve there with Trake?


My "spike in activity" occurs at roughly this time every day. Try harder.


It's a sequence of 8 posts in very short time frame today. 9 now.

It was 4 yesterday and 5 the day before that, both in quite longer time frames.

The difference for me is mainly how quickly in line you've spouted the posts today.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:53 PM

 Fanderay, on 02 February 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

Not really buying Alkend's line of argument. If you're not a faction leader, you realistically aren't going to be able to kill them at night. They're too strong. So only way it's happening is via lynch. Why would you waste your time on a puppets during the day?

But having said that, it's really not clear who is and isn't the puppet here. Sorrit has either just put up a last-ditch effort to save Mockra for some reason, or knows that Mockra is a puppet (but how? He has provided no evidence of this). Leaning towards the former at the moment, and if that's the case, then either (a) Mockra is Sorrit's leader, or (:lol: Mockra or Sorrit are played by the same person, who is puppeting one or the and trying to save both.


This puppet shit is getting fucking retarded.

I think we need to stop it, it's just a new model of WIFOM.

< Suddenly believes that Sorrit and Mockra are the same person.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:55 PM

 Fanderay, on 02 February 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

Not really buying Alkend's line of argument. If you're not a faction leader, you realistically aren't going to be able to kill them at night. They're too strong. So only way it's happening is via lynch. Why would you waste your time on a puppets during the day?

But having said that, it's really not clear who is and isn't the puppet here. Sorrit has either just put up a last-ditch effort to save Mockra for some reason, or knows that Mockra is a puppet (but how? He has provided no evidence of this). Leaning towards the former at the moment, and if that's the case, then either (a) Mockra is Sorrit's leader, or (:lol: Mockra or Sorrit are played by the same person, who is puppeting one or the and trying to save both.


Not buying this. I believe Sorrit was one of the first people to vote Mockra. Why would you get on a train on your puppet/main so early?

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:02 PM

OK, finally caught up. It seems to me like Alkend and Pallid got a little too upset about Trake.

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