[Ultama]

Likely inno, but that stems more from my play style than specific insight into what Bliss said or did. I assume WCS (so no scum CF = no scum killed) until numbers prove a symp is dead/was never part of the game.

[Ultama]

I was feeling strongly about lynching her, but I'd rather admit a mistake than chase my own tail trying to think of possible configurations if she was a symp.

[Fanderay]

Ultama, on 04 January 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

I was feeling strongly about lynching her, but I'd rather admit a mistake than chase my own tail trying to think of possible configurations if she was a symp.

OK, that's basically what I was fishing for. Reading back, your play for the first couple of days was pretty single-minded in your pursuit of AF, and you've pivoted pretty smoothly onto Mockra from there. How would you compare your level of conviction now with your feelings on AF Days 1 and 2?

[Fanderay]

Alkend, on 04 January 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 30 December 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

A connection is not immediately evident, but I am suspicious about Serc lowposting and staying out of things while AF gets so much attention

this is not the droid I was looking for. (I'm still looking for the post by somebody or other who pulls together a case based on Hanas getting no heat and seeming very pro town and iirc correctly there was a vote in another direction (gamelon) iommeadiately after.
but this post by Gamelon now. I don't think a connection is immeadiately evident because I haven't seen any, however it is a classic set up for a serc train (which he has subsequently not really followed up on (not fully confirmed, reread not complete) with the AF lynch and RI flip already confirmed as a symp.
unhappy with this

I also was rather put out by this post at the time. There really didn't seem to be any good reason to connect the two apart from Gamelon finding them both suspicious. Why not just say you found both of them suspicious individually rather than trying to link them together as a scum pairing?

[Ultama]

I feel stronger, especially with less players to choose from. BUT, I am also concerned about the huge blank spots left by Serc and Omtose (Alkend has activated recently). Interestingly, Serc has appeared once, after I voted Mockra, just to vote Gamelon and vanish again. This stinks.

[Fanderay]

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 03:56 AM, said:

Gamelon, on 30 December 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 30 December 2016 - 04:36 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 30 December 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

A connection is not immediately evident, but I am suspicious about Serc lowposting and staying out of things while AF gets so much attention

So you don't have any connection between them, but you've decided you'd like to tie them together anyway. There is certainly scope for being suspicious of each individually, but what you've done here is apply some baseless speculation to try and sound more impressive/insightful. This is not the sort of behavior I'd expect from someone trying to root out the truth.

Well, I am sorry to have to disappoint you.

Its an operating hypothesis. I am going to be looking out to see if I can find any supporting evidence.

AF as symp, Serc as scum speculation (or vice-versa, I dunno).

Ultama, on 03 January 2017 - 02:01 PM, said:

I've been re-reading the thread with intention to look at Gamelon, who was my preferred lynch the other day, but the more I'm reading into it, the stronger I feel that our killer has been hiding in plain sight. Hey, Mockra.

Ultama stops looking at Gamelon and starts looking at Mockra, so Gamelon...

Gamelon, on 03 January 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

So I did a read on Alkend

He has not really registered for me.

He has about 7 posts total, not very substantial at all. the longest one was contributing to the AF train.

He will bear watching. Playing a very quiet game. I will review the Hanas and Mockra readings

Moves on to Alkend for *gasp* low-posting.

Gamelon, on 03 January 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

Y'know, I think Ultama may have a very good point with Mockra

Now it's Mockra's turn in Gamelon's game of musical chairs.I get the sense that Gamelon has been throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. Looking for backing and when it's lacking he is keen on joining whatever train isn't on him (naturally).

Vote Gamelon until he talks me out of it.

This post is a good explanation for why I'm leaning towards Gamelon over Mockra at the moment. All game I've been needling him to try and get him to actually present a case or some assertions of his own for why someone else is scummy, and he doesn't seem to be able to produce anything other than wild speculation and summaries. What he can do is agree with other people's reasoning. You tend to see this quite a bit with scum - they know who the scum are, so it can be hard for them to find the material to make cases on players they know are innocent.

[Ultama]

Hm, I was hoping for a little more activity on thread because my presence until EOD might be spotty. Oh well.

Mockra is a killer called Misa Amane. I assume this confirms there are two killers, Kira being the second one.

[Fanderay]

Ultama, on 04 January 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

Hm, I was hoping for a little more activity on thread because my presence until EOD might be spotty. Oh well.

Mockra is a killer called Misa Amane. I assume this confirms there are two killers, Kira being the second one.

Interesting stuff! So I take it you're revealing as finder? Can you give any more information to help us verify your claim? Who did you target with your find on each night?

(To be clear I'm inclined to believe you here, but I don't want to rush into anything)

[Alkend]

same page as Fanderay. would like your other investigations, but willing to believe

[Ultama]

On N1 I found a townie, but I don't want to reveal them and give Kira a VPI to cross off the list. It's not D-Day yet if we lynch Mockra, so that information will be handy tomorrow.

On N2 I found Mockra.

[Alkend]

ok.

I'm willing to test the claim, will be around on the computer for a few hours, will see what we're like before time and votes situation before switching off

[Alkend]

ok so days gonna end at like 2/3am with me so I'll defo miss that, by a rough calc we're at like 6.5 hours?

[Ultama]

I will also not stay up until timeout, but I like my vote where it is.

[Omtose]

Aparal Forge, on 25 December 2016 - 11:26 PM, said:

Mockra, on 25 December 2016 - 10:10 PM, said:

Here.

I had the weirdest dream last nifgt.

That was a dream? I thought you were just feeling feisty!

That does rather make the AF=symp case look more solid

[Fanderay]

Right, let's put a vote down then.

Vote Mockra

It'll be interesting to see if there are any counter-claims, but for the time being I'm happy to roll with this. I feel like Ultama's behaviour up to the reveal was genuine - there was a clear pivot from his attention on AF to his going after Mockra today that's consistent with a finder getting a big result.

[Omtose]

Based on those early interactions I'd finger Fanderay as scum partner so good of you to get on the train Fandy

Not going to rush putting a vote down but I will be here off and on between now and timeout, certainly able and willing to vote.

[Gamelon]

Seems like a good enough reason for me.

Vote Mockra

[Alkend]

seems to be the route we are going

vote mockra

[Omtose]

Omtose, on 04 January 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Based on those early interactions I'd finger Fanderay as scum partner so good of you to get on the train FandyNot going to rush putting a vote down but I will be here off and on between now and timeout, certainly able and willing to vote.

Gamelon, on 04 January 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Seems like a good enough reason for me. Vote Mockra

Alkend, on 04 January 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

seems to be the route we are goingvote mockra

In a hurry are you?

[Serc]

Omtose, on 04 January 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

Omtose, on 04 January 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Based on those early interactions I'd finger Fanderay as scum partner so good of you to get on the train FandyNot going to rush putting a vote down but I will be here off and on between now and timeout, certainly able and willing to vote.

Gamelon, on 04 January 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Seems like a good enough reason for me. Vote Mockra

Alkend, on 04 January 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

seems to be the route we are goingvote mockra

In a hurry are you?

Why hesitate at this point?

Remove vote

Vote Mockra