[Lady Bliss]

As usual, the night scene was epic. We need another Venge mafia setup like the cabin in the woods.

[Vengeance]

Sorry ST. You did a good job of keeping the Finder alive. If I had not gone to night and serc had been lynched then the kill target would have been ultama and you would have stopped it. I decided against that for a couple of reason.

A. Serc edited was a modkill able offense
B. If I just modkilled him then I had to also go to night.
C. Ultama's find was moved to Hanas after the post so that would have completely screwed over scum as Serc would have been lynched and a find on Hanas.

[Sir Thursday]

Gah, why has nobody been posting the PMs to SH? The best part of a game of Mafia is getting the SH password and finding out how everyone else was driving themselves crazy the same way you were! Might log in to PS over the weekend and start posting them to the thread so they're there for everyone's reading delectation.

As for the game, I should have trusted that the killers wouldn't go for the finder and healed myself. Would have probably won us the game as I would probably have been going after Hanas today (not for the right reasons, mind you). I quite often have a blindspot for players who play the same way I do, and Hanas/Nom did that to perfection. Took until that weirdness with the Omtose NK (why did they do that, by the way?) for me to start to mistrust him.

There's still a chance for town to drag this back from the jaws of defeat, but I think it will come down to whether Ultama takes Alkend's "Thank fuck the game is over" routine is taken at face value or not. I figure if that happens they should be able to pick out Hanas over Gamelon...otherwise, that's the game.

ST

[Path-Shaper]

Just got caught up on the spoiler heaven thread.

I allowed the find to go through on Hanas since serc was killed and he did setup a provisional (unless we`re going to establish the precedent that your provisional should include modkill and all).

Will start importing some of the pms.

I`d definetly be down to co mod another game, though likely around march break.


-LP

[Path-Shaper]

Ultama

Greetings Ultama

You are L, the worlds greteast dectective.

You have the power to investigate the alignment of one person each evening.

Happy Hunting

Ultama, on 25 December 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

Thx!

Ultama, on 27 December 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

Okay, let's give that L's brain something to work on. I want a read on the first players who sprung into actual action.

Find Fanderay if lynched find Mockra

Path-Shaper, on 29 December 2016 - 03:23 AM, said:

Fanderay is Jellus (the medic)

Ultama, on 29 December 2016 - 06:15 AM, said:

Interesting. Very loud for a healer.

Find Mockra if lynched find Gamelon

Path-Shaper, on 31 December 2016 - 02:57 AM, said:

Mockra is Misa Amane, and one of the users of the death note (killer)

Got one

Ultama, on 31 December 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

ooh, that's going to be interesting. I need a read on the no-show now.

Find Omtose if lynched find Serc

Ultama, on 04 January 2017 - 11:36 AM, said:

Uh, I feel like I will regret that, but change of plans.

Find Gamelon if lynched, find Omtose

Ultama, on 04 January 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

Fuck's sake. Omtose is losing his shit on thread, let's go back to my original hunch.

Find Omtose

Ultama, on 05 January 2017 - 05:46 PM, said:

In case we need it:

Find Serc if lynched find Hanas

Your find on Serc comes back that he is scum.

Ultama, on 06 January 2017 - 11:02 PM, said:

Hey there,

I'm a bit confused here. If Serc was modkilled, shouldn't might find have been switched to my prov - Hanas?

Path-Shaper, on 07 January 2017 - 01:54 AM, said:

I'll allow it in this case

Serc was Mikami and a user of the death note (I'll post on thread)

HaNas is light Yagami the leader of the death note users

Gratis u just won vs a 3 killer game

Ultama, on 07 January 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Yay! Bueno

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend

Path-Shaper, on 25 December 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

Greetings

You are a detective working to solve the identity of Kira.

You may vote on thread during the day to either go to night or to lynch someone.

Alkend, on 26 December 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

do I have any abilitites or is detective just flavour?

Alkend, on 04 January 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

am I being obscenely paranoid right now?

why pick omtose?

Is Ultama a ballsy enough symp to sink one master to protect another? surely not, he led the way on mockra.

was it a joint team decision, is Ultama the other killer?

what of Hanas


WHAT OF HANAS?????


going to try a reread and then sleep on it

Alkend, on 04 January 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

ok.

if ultama is actually the cop.

then N1 he investigated Gamelon.

based on his voting post and switch position on train gave him time to change NA.

this leaves me with Hanas, Fanderay and Serc.

I have several underlined posted catching my eye for all of them. and many crazy theroies.

Fanderays survival coupled with his light tussling with Mockra day one

Hanas' survival when several non threats have been NK'd

and Beks death links to a serc threat

Alkend, on 04 January 2017 - 11:52 PM, said:

finish your reread matt.

Taking Hanas off the list. First to throw any shade at Mockra on D2, out of nowhere really.

serc/ Fande

Alkend, on 05 January 2017 - 12:02 AM, said:

Ultama, on 28 December 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

Out of these two I feel Gamelon is a likelier scum. They were the first to bring up the idea that scum were playing by blending in recently but is doing pretty much that themselves, except this statement makes their position well-hedged.

@Aparal:

Quote

one of the benefits of being unrolled is speaking your mind knowing that if yoh get lynched, you arent going to deprive town if a rolled player AND you got your thoughts out.

I think for day 1, the most interesting thing that stands out is still the TS and Pallid interaction.

How does this make your signalling case any less of a longshot?

PS, are you around? How does the timer look?

this is the post thaqt tells my ultama checked Gamelon N1
and his vote on Mockra is clearly a cop vote, the whole post screams it now that I know.

so we have Hanas voting Mockra D2 without any pressure.

so I think we have Serc or Fanderay.

wagon checking

Alkend, on 05 January 2017 - 12:35 PM, said:

I'm really leaning toward fanderay, but I don't want to be that guy yet again and start the losing train.

grah, why can't I find the smoking gun post.

have I already found it and not given it the significance it deserves?

Alkend, on 05 January 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

its fanderay.

going to let him finish his impressions then nail a vote on him.

Alkend, on 06 January 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:

Is ultama playing us.
Is this a ploy to get us to go to night. Kill of an inno, come back tomorrow, lynch serc and win?

Is it him and Fanderay?

Fuck I was so sure Hamelin was the inno. If ultama is legit then we're over to serc/hanas

Alkend, on 06 January 2017 - 11:32 PM, said:

God damnit damnit is ultama playing us?

He can't be.

So what way is this working. Whats the set up. If mockra and serc are killers
Are we dealing with something else silly and retarded cause if this is an FM situation I will officially lose my shit

[Vengeance]

Path-Shaper, on 07 January 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

Just got caught up on the spoiler heaven thread.

I allowed the find to go through on Hanas since serc was killed and he did setup a provisional (unless we`re going to establish the precedent that your provisional should include modkill and all).

Will start importing some of the pms.

I`d definetly be down to co mod another game, though likely around march break.


-LP

See I didn't do that because serc was killed after night began as such the find in him was in effect. I also have a run of not giving out cfs for players that are modkilled.

But it is your game I was just stepping in for a bit

[Path-Shaper]

Vengeance, on 07 January 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 January 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

Just got caught up on the spoiler heaven thread.

I allowed the find to go through on Hanas since serc was killed and he did setup a provisional (unless we`re going to establish the precedent that your provisional should include modkill and all).

Will start importing some of the pms.

I`d definetly be down to co mod another game, though likely around march break.


-LP

See I didn't do that because serc was killed after night began as such the find in him was in effect. I also have a run of not giving out cfs for players that are modkilled.

But it is your game I was just stepping in for a bit

fair enough, difference in modding style, i do appreaciate you stepping in to fill the gap. Really helped keep the game going smoothly.

[Hanas]

EmperorMagus, on 06 January 2017 - 03:34 AM, said:

Mentalist, on 06 January 2017 - 02:50 AM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 05 January 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

Damn, we should've killed ST day 1.

yeah, killing me was not your best move, meta-wise. I even said I'd only be on sporadically, since I can't play on phone anymore.

I may have stuck with Serc Day 2, but it was such a poor case, (albeit correct), that who knows.

Why did you NK me, anyways?

We wanted to go for Fanderay originally, but decided he would be to likely to draw a heal if there were any. I believe Hanas alted you and we collectively wanted to eliminate the old timers first...

So yeah, you died to your reputation.

My main reason was this actually

Hanas, on 28 December 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

I think Bek could be roled, middle-poster as to not look like they're staying low too much but theyre hesitant about providing content and reasons as not to look too useful to town or a threat to us, and if they're is Ment which I still think they're, he's trying to hide his identity atleast a bit I believe because usualy by this time I've safely alted him.

[Hanas]

Sir Thursday, on 07 January 2017 - 12:52 AM, said:

I quite often have a blindspot for players who play the same way I do, and Hanas/Nom did that to perfection.

I admit that as soon as you'd become the most active player I kinda started doing that intentionally

Sir Thursday, on 07 January 2017 - 12:52 AM, said:

Took until that weirdness with the Omtose NK (why did they do that, by the way?) for me to start to mistrust him.

Hanas, on 03 January 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

Mockra, on 03 January 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

I think Ultama was the finder. I suggest NKing him tonight.

Makes sense, they dismissed Gamelon as scum rather quickly today

I was thinking if Fande being roled stands behind their excitement for the game, but Ultama is more likely

Kill Ultama

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Shit. Ultama will be protected if a Healer has seen the reveal. Are you now dead or can you post up till P-S resolves? What should we do?

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Killing Omtose might be the way to go. He is suspicious of Fanderay atm.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

As much as I think we should change out kill, Ultama alive will be out undoing. Everyone (except possibly Hamas) has seen the reveal. Ultama will be protected, no doubt. Going to change the kill order and hope I can do it without Hamas.

Remove Kill order

Kill Omtose

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

Remove Kill Order.
Kill Fanderay

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Son of a bitch! Now I am triple guessing myself! I suspect Omtose is a re-assigned Healer. Fanderay is too active to be a roled player. We'd stand more of a chance if we could nail the Healer now. Ugh. Gonna wait for a bit before I change back to Omtose. Last game I second-guessed myself and shot myself in the foot. Oh, dear...

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Remove Kill Order

Kill Omtose

I agree with this, I'd think Alkend is just as likely to be roled but the Omtose subsitute could mean soemthing

Fande's cheerful reaction to the finder reveal makes me think they're not healer

Yes, I have finally some time now...

Kruppe nailed you as the healer later though

[Path-Shaper]

Killers' Convo 1

Spoiler

Path-Shaper, on 25 December 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

Greetings and Salutations Hanas, Mockra and Serc

You three are Light, Misa and Mikami, all users of the death note.

You may collectively determine one person to die each evening.

Light (hanas) has veto incase of indecision

Happy hunting

Mockra, on 25 December 2016 - 10:06 PM, said:

Hey folks

Hanas, on 25 December 2016 - 11:33 PM, said:

Yo

We the scum then?

But now onto the important things - which one of them two worms is Misa and which is Mikami PS?

Hanas, on 25 December 2016 - 11:38 PM, said:

For reference:

4) Ando
5) Mac
6) Siergiej
7) ST
1) Bliss
3) Tatts
8) Gnaw
9) Ment
10) JPK

Ultama
Gamelon
Fanderay
Alkend
Tulas Shorn
Aparal Forge
Pallid
Bek Okhan
Omtose

Hanas, on 25 December 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

Hanas, on 25 December 2016 - 11:33 PM, said:

We the scum then?

Yep, apparently we(me?) are the on-thread-mentioned Kira

Path-Shaper, on 26 December 2016 - 12:05 AM, said:

Hanas, on 25 December 2016 - 11:33 PM, said:

Yo

We the scum then?

But now onto the important things - which one of them two worms is Misa and which is Mikami PS?

you're named in respective order

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 12:18 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 December 2016 - 12:05 AM, said:

Hanas, on 25 December 2016 - 11:33 PM, said:

Yo

We the scum then?

But now onto the important things - which one of them two worms is Misa and which is Mikami PS?

you're named in respective order

Ah ofcourse, I skipped the first line

So since there's three of us here, anyone wanna code lovers on thread so we can claims that should it be suitable when one of us was likely to get lynched? If we wanted to cover all three of us with it two different kinds of codes with would be sufficient with one of us being part of both of the connections, each connection with one of the remaining ones.

Do we all share the kill ability PS? Like every one of us can kill if he's left alone?

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

Anyone know what town roles could we expect lore-wise? Given there's three of us in this convo it's more than usual I guess

Mockra, on 26 December 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

Anyone know what town roles could we expect lore-wise? Given there's three of us in this convo it's more than usual I guess

No idea about the town roles, but I'm assuming there would be at least 2 of them. Otherwise, 3 scum with a lover's connection would be plain OP.

I guess we can do a code. But I'm wary of doing it day1, because anything weird we do day1 runs the risk of "SIGNALLING!" LYNCHES.

Mockra, on 26 December 2016 - 08:50 AM, said:

Also, we need to kill/lynch ST and Ment ASAP.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 January 2017 - 11:24 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Killers' Convo 2

Spoiler

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 10:44 AM, said:

Mockra, on 26 December 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

Anyone know what town roles could we expect lore-wise? Given there's three of us in this convo it's more than usual I guess

No idea about the town roles, but I'm assuming there would be at least 2 of them. Otherwise, 3 scum with a lover's connection would be plain OP.

I guess we can do a code. But I'm wary of doing it day1, because anything weird we do day1 runs the risk of "SIGNALLING!" LYNCHES.

Was thinking about a codes that they will have no actual chance of finding, like one ending lines in a post with l+1(m),e+1,r+1 and the other one with o+1,V+,1s+1 or whatever

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

Mockra, on 26 December 2016 - 08:50 AM, said:

Also, we need to kill/lynch ST and Ment ASAP.

Figuring out who Ment i S won't take long

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Btw, is itt Bliss there?

Mockra, on 26 December 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Btw, is itt Bliss there?

Nope I'm EM. You?

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 12:58 PM, said:

Mockra, on 26 December 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Btw, is itt Bliss there?

Nope I'm EM. You?

Would have been my second guess

Nom here

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm thinking Fande could be ST?

Serc, on 26 December 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:

Hi! KoD here. This was my first stop. Haven't visited the game topic yet. Going there now.

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 12:49 AM, said:

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm thinking Fande could be ST?

or maybe Tulas

Bek - Ment?

Alkend's probably Mac?
Gamelon - Ando?
AF - Bliss?

kill Bek for now then

Why do we want to kill ST? I've never played in a game with him

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 12:57 AM, said:

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 12:49 AM, said:

Hanas, on 26 December 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm thinking Fande could be ST?

or maybe Tulas

Fande uses british spelling, only other Brits are Tatts and Mac and I think this is neitehr of them, then there's Ando who I think it's not either, and Sierg who it could easily be especially with the smiley they used at the beginning, but Tulas used similar one too

spamming alting stuff here because of lack of my own role PM

Mockra, on 27 December 2016 - 01:59 AM, said:

I've only played one or two games with ST, but he was Tapper levels of good in those two games, so we gotta kill him.

[Path-Shaper]

Killers' Convo 3

Spoiler

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 02:37 AM, said:

Rethinking the coding thing, the flavour suggests that the L guy is a finder which could thwart our lovers' reveal quickly should it come to that. EM what are chances town has lovers, lore-wise?

Mockra, on 27 December 2016 - 03:07 AM, said:

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 02:37 AM, said:

Rethinking the coding thing, the flavour suggests that the L guy is a finder which could thwart our lovers' reveal quickly should it come to that. EM what are chances town has lovers, lore-wise?

I'd guess high. There are a lot of police officers helping L hunt the Kira guy. I'd guess a couple of them are in the game as lovers.

Mockra, on 27 December 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

I think we should kill Fanderay tonight. We two are in the top 4 posters in game right now, if we kill Fanderay we will be able to control the thread for the most part. We can do the meta thing afterwards.

I'm trying to pick a fight with him right now to confuse anyone who may want to WIFOM anything from his death.

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 11:59 AM, said:

Mockra, on 27 December 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

I think we should kill Fanderay tonight. We two are in the top 4 posters in game right now, if we kill Fanderay we will be able to control the thread for the most part. We can do the meta thing afterwards.

I'm trying to pick a fight with him right now to confuse anyone who may want to WIFOM anything from his death.

Until Tatts and Ment crawl out of their shells, that is

Mockra, on 27 December 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 11:59 AM, said:

Mockra, on 27 December 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

I think we should kill Fanderay tonight. We two are in the top 4 posters in game right now, if we kill Fanderay we will be able to control the thread for the most part. We can do the meta thing afterwards.

I'm trying to pick a fight with him right now to confuse anyone who may want to WIFOM anything from his death.

Until Tatts and Ment crawl out of their shells, that is

I thought Fand sounded like Tatts tbh. I'm horrible at alting though.

Serc, on 27 December 2016 - 02:17 PM, said:

Things are still kinda hectic around here. Out of town relatives still making themselves Holiday burdensome. I may be scarce around here for a while. P-S, I auto-endorse whatever choices my co-conspirators make in my absense.

Serc, on 27 December 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:

Also. This is the first game I've played with ST (and our own EM), and I too am terrible at alting.

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:

I also allow the two worms to change provisionals without my approval if I'm not here

Fande's use of smileys doesn't fit for Tatts imo, Fande also capsizes everything that should be capsized and uses interpunctions and full stops correctly everywhere, Tatts usually randomly messes up stuff like this, I think Pallid could be Tatts. Also Fande's talked about tv shows/movies more in this game than I've seen Tatts talk...probably ever

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 25 December 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Hmm, should I start trying to speculate on roles to see how fast I get lynched?

Ofcourse this is a reference to the last game so apparently Tulas is not ST

Serc, on 27 December 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 25 December 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Hmm, should I start trying to speculate on roles to see how fast I get lynched?

Ofcourse this is a reference to the last game so apparently Tulas is not ST

TS would be Ment or Khell, then. Pallid is probably Macros. Dropping a vote with his second post is his MO.


Fanderay does not strike me as being Tatts. In fact, the precision of the posting style is altogether unfamiliar to me, so that may be ST.

[Path-Shaper]

Killers' Convo 4

Spoiler

Serc, on 27 December 2016 - 04:40 PM, said:

Identifying and killing Ment and Khell should be a top priority. I like keeping Tatts around. He is either wrong or right, but either way, he gets really passionate to the point of alienating Townfolk who stop listening to him. Also, Tatts tends to draw Healer protection early on.

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

Khell is not playing

I'm pretty sure that Alkend is Mac - hangover, is that not enough? well then their hangover cure being with more stout, the word "stout", the post in RAF thread about being in pub combined with the aforementioned cure

And I still think Bek is Ment, no concrete clues there though

Serc, on 27 December 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

Yeah, I am no longer thinking Pallid is Mac.

Hanas, on 27 December 2016 - 11:25 PM, said:

One thing about Tatts drawing town's protective abilities early - I don't think many people have alted him correctly and are confident about it enough to base their target on that if they were a healer

I want Fande dead but I think they're a RI and that they might draw the town's protective abilities tonight, at this point I think healer would either go for them or someone who they think could be roled

Hanas, on 28 December 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

I think Bek could be roled, middle-poster as to not look like they're staying low too much but theyre hesitant about providing content and reasons as not to look too useful to town or a threat to us, and if they're is Ment which I still think they're, he's trying to hide his identity atleast a bit I believe because usualy by this time I've safely alted him.

Hanas, on 28 December 2016 - 09:00 PM, said:

Kill Bek Okhan

I think Fande is too likely to be healed and currently not a direct threat to any of us

Your thoughts on this?

Hanas, on 28 December 2016 - 09:34 PM, said:

I think you should check Mafia Manager LP, it has some bugs but nothing game-breaking, also setting up a game takes a while but it certainly is worth it as it keeps track of time itself and helps keeping track of votes and makes time-updates for you

Mockra, on 28 December 2016 - 10:54 PM, said:

Yeah I like the Beck kill

Serc, on 28 December 2016 - 10:58 PM, said:

If it's not to late, I endorse the above action.

Path-Shaper, on 29 December 2016 - 03:22 AM, said:

Hanas, on 28 December 2016 - 09:34 PM, said:

I think you should check Mafia Manager LP, it has some bugs but nothing game-breaking, also setting up a game takes a while but it certainly is worth it as it keeps track of time itself and helps keeping track of votes and makes time-updates for you

I think ill look into it tomorrow morning

[Path-Shaper]

Killers' Convo 5

Spoiler

Mockra, on 29 December 2016 - 03:45 AM, said:

I think we should kill TS tonight.

Not because he is a threat to us (he isn't), but because I have a sneaking suspicioun that he may have been trying to make us (the scum) ignore him while he does whatever roled townies do.

Serc, on 29 December 2016 - 03:47 AM, said:

Well, that went pretty well. Hopefully, tomorrow they'll try getting on my case for Bek's death. Perhaps some will think I am Symp to Tulas and the Tulas lynch train can be restoked.

Serc, on 29 December 2016 - 03:49 AM, said:

so Bek was Lady Bliss. I had become pretty sure that Bek was Ment. Even used Ment's "something" shorthand.

Mockra, on 29 December 2016 - 06:08 AM, said:

Bek was Ment and Pallid was Tatts. This was a good night for us.

Hanas, on 29 December 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

Interesting EM, let's keep an eye on them for now and see? I was thinking about something similar with AF, their play doesn't make much sense to me from most part but perhaps it's at least partially deliberate?

Tbh I wanted to vote Tatts by the end of the day instead of Gamelon but figured this would look less scummy and I just hoped someone will swing it to Tatts

Serc, on 30 December 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

Okay, so what are we doing tonight? Unless Aparal Forge gets lynched and is a healer, Fanderay is likely to draw protection. Methinks Gamelon is too valuable as a suspect to do away with. Thoughts?

Mockra, on 30 December 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

I still want to kill TS.

Hanas, on 30 December 2016 - 10:37 PM, said:

Yeah I agree that TS is a good shot tonight, AF might be healer but also might be not in which case he's the most likely to draw attention, Fande still being likely and even if the ehaler decides to heal based on our last night target I don't think he'd choose TS with the suicidal post of his

Mockra, on 30 December 2016 - 11:06 PM, said:

So our order will be

Kill TS

so long as Serc doesn't object.

Hanas, on 31 December 2016 - 01:37 AM, said:

Something just occured to me - I think Bek was one of lovers, does that make any sense from the show EM?

[Path-Shaper]

Killers' Convo 6

Spoiler

Hanas, on 31 December 2016 - 01:40 AM, said:

I like how you spell Gamelon's name

Mockra, on 31 December 2016 - 02:06 AM, said:

Yeah, Bek being part of a lover's pair would make sense from the show. Regardless, that speculation is pointless.

We might have to help lynch Serc tomorrow if he starts drawing too much attention.

Serc, on 31 December 2016 - 02:42 AM, said:

I have no objection to the TS kill tonight. And if you need to help lynch me tomorrow be sure to pound me hard while doing so.

Mockra, on 31 December 2016 - 03:01 AM, said:

We know have three people in a thread of 8. Our primary goal should be to get two people on any other person and then triple hammer. The night kill should win us the game.

Mockra, on 31 December 2016 - 03:01 AM, said:

We know have three people in a thread of 8. Our primary goal should be to get two people on any other person and then triple hammer. The night kill should win us the game.

Hanas, on 31 December 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

No lynching of Kruppe then?

Both of our targets were relatively quiet players who seemingly weren't much useful to town on thread, should we target Fande now if we manage to lynch someone town?

Gamelon seems to be the obvious choice to lynch

Mockra, on 31 December 2016 - 11:40 PM, said:

Hanas, on 31 December 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

No lynching of Kruppe then?

Both of our targets were relatively quiet players who seemingly weren't much useful to town on thread, should we target Fande now if we manage to lynch someone town?

Gamelon seems to be the obvious choice to lynch

If the thread starts to swing that way, one of us has to be the toughest proponent of that road. I don't think it will though. Hopefully.

I'm afraid that a finder will fuck all of our plans now.

Hanas, on 01 January 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

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I'm afraid that a finder will fuck all of our plans now.

I think they already would have revealed it if they found one of us

Serc, on 02 January 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

I thought the day would be well under way by now and that I'd be half-lynched. I'm keeping an eye out for P-S and will see if I can mount some kind of pre-emptive defense. Or should I wait for Fanderay to come out guns blazing at me?

Hanas, on 02 January 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

Well I also don't think you will be the hottest lynch candidate

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Killers' Convo 7

Spoiler

Mockra, on 03 January 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

Well, Fanderay abd Mockra have us dead to rights.

I'm going to assume one of the two is ST and say I told you so.

Thoughts?

Hanas, on 03 January 2017 - 05:48 PM, said:

My thoughts are that ST is probably not Mockra, but it's really mostly gut

Busy now but I'll get here

Mockra, on 03 January 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Ultama, you kno what I mean.

Hanas, on 03 January 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

To my defence I think Fande is ST and Fande is still not real threat as long as both of us are alive! That's not very cheerful I know...

Hanas, on 03 January 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

I'm too tired I'll be around on phone tomorrow but not with very much time either, Unless something changes overnight I'll just claim being too busy tomorrow and say I like you for the lynch, also if you were lynched I'm not sure if killing Fande would be the best idea but I think I still like them the best as target

Mockra, on 03 January 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

I think Ultama was the finder. I suggest NKing him tonight.

Hanas, on 03 January 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

Mockra, on 03 January 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

I think Ultama was the finder. I suggest NKing him tonight.

Makes sense, they dismissed Gamelon as scum rather quickly today

I was thinking if Fande being roled stands behind their excitement for the game, but Ultama is more likely

Kill Ultama

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 12:53 AM, said:

Kill Ultama


Haven't even had a chance to look in the topic today. going there now.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

Maybe Alkend will be persuaded to vote Gamelon. I think it's gonna be tough to get two Townies to bite so we can hammer, but let's see what developes.

Mockra, on 04 January 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

I suggest you guys vote me now. Go for Fand tmrw for defending me and trying to link me to Hanas (distancing.)

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Killers' Convo 8

Spoiler

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

Are you at L1 right now? Should i be the one to hammer?

Mockra, on 04 January 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Probably yes.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

Done.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Shit. Ultama will be protected if a Healer has seen the reveal. Are you now dead or can you post up till P-S resolves? What should we do?

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Killing Omtose might be the way to go. He is suspicious of Fanderay atm.

Mockra, on 04 January 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

I think I shouldn't post anymore. As I'm technically dead.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

Okay. Damn. I should have waited another five minutes to consult.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

As much as I think we should change out kill, Ultama alive will be out undoing. Everyone (except possibly Hamas) has seen the reveal. Ultama will be protected, no doubt. Going to change the kill order and hope I can do it without Hamas.


Remove Kill order

Kill Omtose

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

Remove Kill Order.


Kill Fanderay

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Son of a bitch! Now I am triple guessing myself! I suspect Omtose is a re-assigned Healer. Fanderay is too active to be a roled player. We'd stand more of a chance if we could nail the Healer now. Ugh. Gonna wait for a bit before I change back to Omtose. Last game I second-guessed myself and shot myself in the foot. Oh, dear...

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Killers' Convo 9

Spoiler

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Remove Kill Order


Kill Omtose

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Remove Kill Order

Kill Omtose

I agree with this, I'd think Alkend is just as likely to be roled but the Omtose subsitute could mean soemthing

Fande's cheerful reaction to the finder reveal makes me think they're not healer

Yes, I have finally some time now...

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

Alright. Well, at least we haven't wasted an attack on Ultama. If Omtose is the Healer, Ultama can die tomorrow night. There should be at least one of us remaining, even if Ultama checks one of us tonight.

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

Alright. Well, at least we haven't wasted an attack on Ultama. If Omtose is the Healer, Ultama can die tomorrow night. There should be at least one of us remaining, even if Ultama checks one of us tonight.

Well that still depends on LP's policy on accepting orders after the day's ended as you put the order in after you've hammered

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

Yeah, there's that too. Then all my hyperventilating will have been for naught.

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

Also Omtose wanting to delay the lynch would also make more sense if he was a healer - giving the killers chance to notice the reveal and make themselves more likely to target Ultama hoping there's no healer or that the healer hasn't seen the reveal while he he would be healing Ult

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

Well, Lady B has resolved the day but probably won't do the night due to our changing the night kill after the mockra Hammer.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

Nevermind. Omtose is dead and was not the Healer. Shit.

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

Why are we so sure there even is a healer anyway?

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:54 PM, said:

With 3 Scum I can hardly believe there wouldn't be a healer.

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Killers' Convo 10

Spoiler

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

Okay, Gamelon said before the reveal that Ultama might be right about Mockra, but didn't vote until after the reveal. Will they think him off the hook or an eager partner who only voted after the reveal? There is also the question of who Ultama checked night one. From Fandy's quickness to believe the reveal, I suspect it was him.

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:54 PM, said:

With 3 Scum I can hardly believe there wouldn't be a healer.

There still could be other roles I think + finder is pretty powerful on its own already, there's also implied there's more than one FBI agents present but that could be just flavour thing and Ment might have been the only one, also I think it was a vig

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

There is also the question of who Ultama checked night one. From Fandy's quickness to believe the reveal, I suspect it was him.

I doubt the person on whom the find was performed on would know it

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

Okay, Gamelon said before the reveal that Ultama might be right about Mockra, but didn't vote until after the reveal. Will they think him off the hook or an eager partner who only voted after the reveal?

Possibly, though I also think it's worth trying to take a shot at Fande, especially now with their "it's usually worth to wait" while being a second vote on the train and Alkend has some suspicions about them too

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 10:11 PM, said:

Actually, we're screwed. If Ultama finds us, we're screwed. If Ultama finds town that's 3 votes on the next suspect. Unless that suspect is Town, the 4th vote won't be hard to come by.

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

I think the person that Ultama prefmormed a find on N1 is dead because

Fanderay - too towny to be chosen as a finder target imo
Gameon - Ultama voted them D2 - wasn't them
Alkend - very lowposter, I think a finder wouldn't bother

Anyway I still believe they haven't performed a find on Fande, both Gam and Alk have a good chance to have been perfomred a find on last night

Unless ofcourse Ultama indeed parfumed a find on one of us

Anyway if we manage to lynch a townie today and kill right that will be a parity

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

Ultama, on 04 January 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

I made a last minute switch to Omtose with my Find

Ha!

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 10:51 PM, said:

OMG, what a lucky break! *rubs hands together*

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

They're gonna take their time today, no doubt. Hopefully they'll be sniffing around Gamelon.

Serc, on 04 January 2017 - 10:55 PM, said:

I already stated I wasn'rt going to be hanging around for the next while. I'm not going to post for at least the next few hours or more.

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

Alright Alkend might not be as suspicious about Fande as it seemed at first

Hanas, on 04 January 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

Good thing about the NK is the healer will not expect two scum who are aware of each other but one scum who can't count on his symp being alive