[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

There were five of each team. It took 6 to lynch. At least one of my team was going to be on board. The misinterpretation of that (deliberate or otherwise) was astonishing.

[Mentalist]

ansible, on 07 December 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

I was certain about Okaros and Gamelon which is why I tried to point towards them on Day 5 when suspicion fell on them a bit, but Kaschan blindsided me. Bliss played too well, I never suspected her. I kept wondering if the spat with D'riss was going to turn out just like the one with Alkend...

I don't understand why everyone on team IM who was still alive voted for me instead of for Okaros/Gamelon. You don't get extra points for lynching the faction leader! Turns out he had an LP too. I kept pointing this out but no one listened. Once Okaros/Gamelon voted Pallid like they did it should have been so obvious that they were team CA, and a confirmed CA lynch is better than crossing your fingers.

Anyway, it was a fun game even with vote shenanigans. Thanks Blend. Well played at the end, team IM... but Ment and Khell, you guys have serious blinders on. When you've got the facts, logic >>>> meta.

We don't need no stinkin' logic,

That's the boring way to win games.

[Mentalist]

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 08 December 2016 - 12:18 AM, said:

There were five of each team. It took 6 to lynch. At least one of my team was going to be on board. The misinterpretation of that (deliberate or otherwise) was astonishing.

Made for a fun game, didn't it?

[Andorion]

That game was so frustrating initially with all the Guards.

But overall it was good fun.

Things would have turned out differently if I had gotten an NA in during the first Vote Night I think

[Lady Bliss]

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 07 December 2016 - 11:24 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 07 December 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Ah shit fucking fuck. I realized Pallid is Iron Man yesterday evening but it was too late to backpedal from all the nonsense I was saying earlier to pass as team IM so I didn't even try.

Sorry for lynching you Kruppe, I was actually convinced you're team IM. From then on I knew all my team and we were doing fairly well. It's down to 2v2 so NAs will decide. Need to read up spoiler thread to know what's up.

Go team cap!

I don't know why there was any Team Captain America doubt about me. Thought I made it pretty clear to everyone with my hard-on for finding Iron Man day one. Guess only an IM lynch would have made it any clearer. I had Pallid targeted night 2, but I was dead by then. Not that it would have worked the first time, butI would have tried again Night 3.

The problem was purely WIFOM. Were you the type of player to lie about your allegiances or be truthful. Since most mafia players are liars, I assumed you were trying to mislead us.

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

Yay!

Also new old alts, was just thinking we could use a change of alts, yay twice!

The question is, can I lie with my ability?

Absolutely - your job is to sow as much discord as possible.

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

Perfect

So I'm the villain but all I have to do is survive while the good guys wreck each other, I like that

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

So another question for me is, do I tell the leaders identities of each other?

Can I tell them my identity?

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

Will they know the information is from me?

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

I mean me as Zemo

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:07 PM, said:

Or should I signal both of the leaders on thread...

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

Just teaming up with one of the teams would make the best chance for me to win but that's not the fun

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

Maybe give one of the leaders identity of the other leader and then just keep telling the second one identities of underlings from other team to see what happens

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:27 PM, said:

Captain America - Kaschan
Hawkeye - Iparth Erula
Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier - Okaros
Ant-Man - Trake
Scarlet Witch - Gamelon

Iron Man - Pallid
War Machine - Alkend
Black Widow - Sorrit
The Vision - Anthras
Spider-Man - D'riss

Helmut Zemo - ME!

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:29 PM, said:

The best bahaviour on thread will be loud but never pointing fingers to any of the leaders (or players that "obviously" belong to one of the faction) I guess

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:31 PM, said:

Funny how both guys who came in fourth are actually listed as fourth in their teams, bet atleast one of them is not coincidence

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:49 PM, said:

Can I send a short message along with my ability information too?

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

Will I know if I'm guarded?

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:54 PM, said:

Can I reveal any of the who is who information on thread?

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 09:10 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

So another question for me is, do I tell the leaders identities of each other?

Can I tell them my identity?

You CAN tell them your identity, though I don't see why you'd want to. If I was in game and I knew who the Survivor was, I would definitely kill them off.

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 09:10 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

Will they know the information is from me?

No, I'll simply tell them they have received a message that Player X is Character X.

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:49 PM, said:

Can I send a short message along with my ability information too?

Nope

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:54 PM, said:

Can I reveal any of the who is who information on thread?

No

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 09:10 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

Will they know the information is from me?

No, I'll simply tell them they have received a message that Player X is Character X.

There could be an occasion... Also, I blame you for that, maybe they'd be more inclined to keep me alive if I was a good guy survivor. But this way it's more fun so I can't really blame you.

That's more nopes that I was hoping for, but I already know everyone's identity what more should I want?

And since you said this game resolves around the airport scene but I ain't there based on scene on youtube you posted in teh signup thread, am I really off in Siberia looking for the super soliders?

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 09:37 PM, said:

Yeah I'm seriously considering just telling both leaders identitites of each other hopinh telling the first one will not result in death of the other one just next night(I really have no idea as to what abilities others could have) and then try to make them turn on their own teams, that ofcourse means I will need a good number of nights(and me being alive) so unless I was in some serious danger I will despite my VCs probably try to push the DDay as far as possible, because more fun!

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 06:51 AM, said:

Okaros, on 22 November 2016 - 06:42 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 05:52 AM, said:

Okaros, on 22 November 2016 - 04:27 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 November 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

remove vote

sun is yellow

pineapple

So how many beers?

To be precise, none

Interestingly the firetruck didn't cause such reactions, maybe I hit a nerve with the remove?

Actually I did. What's with the yellow and red theme?

Probably that Trake's and Anthras's avatar colour schemes hurt my eyes. And luckily I'm on phone and don't have to see Pallid's one yet closely but it looks ridiculous already.

Oh wait Ironman is yellow and red, and I'm mentioning Pallid already...this wasn't deliberate

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 07:27 AM, said:

Trake Tatts

Okaros Mess

?

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

Nope Trake is Khell?

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

But the speculations doesn't feel like Khell

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 12:09 PM, said:

So I've got atleast two caps guys in my pocket now and another signalling to pallid in, both with I think not a bad chance to be picked up by someone from the other team(Kaschan mainly due to Tarak though)

Now let's just hope someone thinking I'm in his team won't kill me to stop the too obvious signalling

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

Haha, I like what my firetruck and the other random post did but it was geniunely random Firetruck because recently one of the guys I listen said he wanted to be a firetruck when he was a kid so it kinda stuck in my head, sun because I just wanted to write down as obvious observation as possible and thought "sky is blue" but then thought well technically it isn't and cahnged it to the sun one, for pineapple I have no explanation but nobody cares about that one anyway

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

Tell Pallid that Kaschan is Captain

Or I could tell the leaders that the each other is member of their own faction?

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

Alkend, on 22 November 2016 - 04:57 PM, said:

You thinking TS is the survivor?

That's Ment right? Damn him, how does he do that? He'll be the first I'll sell once I get to that

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

Okaros, on 22 November 2016 - 05:23 PM, said:

That entire exchange between TS and Trake reeks of WIFOM BS. Faction games get plenty of lynches, people can be persuaded to vote through arguments, and we have the Survivor as a Tie-Breaker. People jump onto lynch trains for distancing purposes all the time.

I thought he picked up on the random Kaschan quote just like Trake apparently did. Also expected him to pick up on Trake's signal too. Not like they couldn't be coincidences but couopled with Trake's reaction to me...

Iparth Erule, on 22 November 2016 - 05:35 PM, said:

Okaros, on 22 November 2016 - 05:23 PM, said:

That entire exchange between TS and Trake reeks of WIFOM BS. Faction games get plenty of lynches, people can be persuaded to vote through arguments, and we have the Survivor as a Tie-Breaker. People jump onto lynch trains for distancing purposes all the time.

So vote to lynch Tulas Shorn. And tomorrow vote Trake.

Yeah maybe I'm not signalling obviously enough. Perhaps I should only limit my conversation to the leaders only? Well if they atleast was around

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

So this is my reward for trying to keep the thread alive

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

Tell Kaschan that Pallid is Scarlet Witch

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 07:53 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 07:52 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 22 November 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

I thought I'd have more time to play this week with the holiday... let me get caught up.

Someone was really lazy with your avatar.

I think there should be break for the American Thanksgiving anyway, PS?

American, should(shield)...pick it up damn you all

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

If an Ironman team member is lynched:

Tell Kaschan that Pallid is Scarlet Witch

Otherwise:

Tell Pallid that Kaschan is Black Widow

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:

(If I make it beyond N1) can I reveal on thread that I was the source of the identity message(s)to someone(hoping I wasn't guarded and they/it made it through)?

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 08:09 PM, said:

If Cpt.Americas team member is lynched:

Tell Pallid that Kaschan is Black Widow

Else:

Tell Kaschan that Pallid is Scarlet Witch

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 09:05 PM, said:

D, on 22 November 2016 - 08:35 PM, said:

I'm around now. 'Firetruck' would make for a great new day 1 lynch tale.

Yeah all I had to do was to properly signal both of the leaders and I'd be basically invincible

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 09:07 PM, said:

It only now occured to me that I could tell both leaders that I'm someone from their faction, but that'd go to shit once there was a cf of one of the guys I said that I am

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 10:21 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 07:52 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 22 November 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

I thought I'd have more time to play this week with the holiday... let me get caught up.

Someone was really lazy with your avatar.

I think there should be break for the American Thanksgiving anyway, PS?

Was thinking maybe soemthing like this(is that a depiction of a black hole with a ring made by "eating" a star?) would suit you better

ring...guess what else is round...SHIELDS, then star...goddamn someone has to pick up on it

(the picture is probably from Interstellar btw, depiction of a regular blackhole based on some supercomputer simulation)

Tulas Shorn, on 22 November 2016 - 10:29 PM, said:

sigh

[Path-Shaper]

Iparth Erule:

Iparth Erule, on 21 November 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

What, pray tell, is a "BP"? Blocking Power?

Iparth Erule, on 21 November 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Hawkeye is among the weaker Avengers, but these night actions seem pretty potent. the rest of the crowd must really be kickass!

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 21 November 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

What, pray tell, is a "BP"? Blocking Power?

Sorry, I forget that not everyone has been playing Mafia here for as long as me!

BP = Bulletproof


Essentially, the first time you would be killed by a night action, you survive instead.

Iparth Erule, on 22 November 2016 - 04:30 AM, said:

Firetruck. Sun is yellow. Pineapple. Iron man is red and yellow. Tatts (or someone) is hinting they're Iron Man. Do I use my one-use Perfect Shot arrow and hope that it bypasses "most" BPs? Wasting Iron Man on night one would be a coup. I'll have to think on it and see if anyone else tumbles to the red and yellow reference, and if so, even mentions it. I don't intend to.

Iparth Erule, on 22 November 2016 - 04:57 AM, said:

Hmm. Apart from the BP, there's a good chance that both factions have a Healer. If so, their Healer might catch the red and yellow clue and protect Tulas Shorn (Iron Man).


Screw it. Ima gonna go all Macros and get trigger happy.


Night Action: Fire my Perfect Shot arrow at Tulas Shorn.


If Tulas Shorn is lynched, then fire Excellent Shot arrow at Trake.

Iparth Erule, on 22 November 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

The eyes of a hawk reference is implying TS is team CA. I'm not buying it.

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 12:33 AM, said:

Remove Night Action.

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 01:32 AM, said:

I should have kept a lower profile...

Fire Smoke Bomb Arrow

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 01:39 AM, said:

I did fuck up, though. Iron man wouldn't be signalling his team when they already know who he is. Just gotta hope it was a signal from TS to IM.

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 03:47 AM, said:

Now we're not going to get a lynch, so no CF. And there won't be one in the morning either. Serves 'em right, the bastids.

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 03:53 AM, said:

Well, there's the lynch. I hate using that smoke bomb arrow but if I don't i'm surely dead in the night.

Iparth Erule, on 24 November 2016 - 01:13 AM, said:

Not much time left and not a single vote.

Fire an Excellent Shot arrow ar Pallid

Iparth Erule, on 24 November 2016 - 01:14 AM, said:

I mean not much time left before the freeze. Another 24 hrs left when we resume, correct?

[Path-Shaper]

Trake:

Trake, on 21 November 2016 - 04:16 PM, said:

Wow okay.

I assume I start regular so can be lynched and night killed?

when do I submit to change size?

If I change size does that happen say night 1 and be active for night one and day 2, then change regular which will be night 2 and day 3, then change to whatever etc...

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

Trake, on 21 November 2016 - 04:16 PM, said:

Wow okay.

I assume I start regular so can be lynched and night killed?

Correct.

Quote

when do I submit to change size?

Same as any action - in time for a night resolution. Basically, when you're regular sized, you need to let me know if you're going to go giant or ant. When you're giant or ant, you'll automatically revert back to regular the following night anyway, so no real need to submit the action (though it'd be easier on me if you did).

Quote

If I change size does that happen say night 1 and be active for night one and day 2, then change regular which will be night 2 and day 3, then change to whatever etc...

Yes, that's correct!

Trake, on 21 November 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

So night 1


Go Ant Sized - and screw with the suit on Okaros

Trake, on 21 November 2016 - 07:37 PM, said:

Think that was a signal by TS so im going to fake symp okaros

Trake, on 23 November 2016 - 02:50 PM, said:

So now I am going regular size for night 2. Yikes, it makes me vulnerable.

Trake, on 29 November 2016 - 12:08 PM, said:

Day and Night 3 I will be Ant Sized

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

Given all actions were cancelled on Night 1, you're still regular sized, so you're going ant-sized for Night 2. If you can get me a target for your action within the next 10ish minutes, I'll accept it.

Trake, on 29 November 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Okaros mess with suit

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Trake, on 29 November 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Okaros mess with suit

Perfect, thanks! I had hoped you were still around!

Trake, on 29 November 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

I thought Kruppe would turn out the other team as Kaschan made the case, and Kruppe's signalling was too obvious, thought he'd flip team Iron Man

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend:

Alkend, on 21 November 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

Cool. Don't get lynched, kill Khell. Seems easy enough,

Alkend, on 21 November 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

Hmm, let me guess: Pallid is Ando.

Alkend, on 23 November 2016 - 01:28 AM, said:

Ok, so my dilemma is, do I try to NK the Survivor, or do I try to NK The Khell?

Nuke IE. If lynched..... Okaros (who I'm pretty sure is Nom)

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 02:42 PM, said:

If not too late,

nuke Sorritt

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

Gotcha!

Now, to convince Pallid to vote that way...

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 04:17 PM, said:

Readin your scene, it looks like

-tatts was guarding a teammate
-sorritt killed tatts
-soritt is Captain
-someone probably on my team (if the roles are symmetrical) guarded me.

-if that is correct, whomever guarded me should realize who I am and back me up against Captain Sorritt.

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 04:22 PM, said:

Kaschan is also likely team Cap, seeing how he went into damage control mode, shifting attention to the non-voters.

Gamelon not so sure.

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 04:28 PM, said:

Prov for Night 3:

nuke sorrit, if lynched and CF team Captain, nuke Kas
-if sorritt CF is team Iron Man, nuke..Gamelon

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I will look incredibly foolish if you used my Night 1 prov and I actually targetted Okaros.

But I have to assume that didn't happen, because i'm kinda comitted. Besides, my analysis makes sense dammit.
This is what happens when no one else is posting: I start going over what I wrote and second-guess myself.

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I will look incredibly foolish if you used my Night 1 prov and I actually targetted Okaros.

But I have to assume that didn't happen, because i'm kinda comitted. Besides, my analysis makes sense dammit.
This is what happens when no one else is posting: I start going over what I wrote and second-guess myself.

Nope, your night 2 target was Sorrit.

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:

Ack, I missed something, and am very sorry, but you have been guarded, and cannot vote during Day 3.

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I will look incredibly foolish if you used my Night 1 prov and I actually targetted Okaros.

But I have to assume that didn't happen, because i'm kinda comitted. Besides, my analysis makes sense dammit.
This is what happens when no one else is posting: I start going over what I wrote and second-guess myself.

Nope, your night 2 target was Sorrit.

Good. Now there's still a 5% chance my action was re-directed from Sorritt to the actual captain. (i' trying to guess how I coul coul wro if sorritt is not Cap).

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 08:57 PM, said:

Antras... mess?

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 09:32 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 09:29 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

Hmm.

Kruppe posted that he'd be voted by his team-mates. Ergo, his leader was o his train.

Seeing how he voted, and then quickly removed (so so not to draw attention)

vote Sorritt

I'm pretty sure he's the Captain.

Say wut, PS?

Read your PMs sir!

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Well, you cross-posted that with me replying to you, so I never got notified I got a new PM,

Well, clearly i'm on the right track. It does me no good, b/c we can't lynch sorritt now. Fuck.

I'm assuming I can't acknowledge that i'm silenced on thread b/c that'd be revealing, right?

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 09:58 PM, said:

I'm now of the opinion that the best way to prove I'm righ is to get lynched and have them understand why Sorritt is Cap based on my CF.

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Well, you cross-posted that with me replying to you, so I never got notified I got a new PM,

Well, clearly i'm on the right track. It does me no good, b/c we can't lynch sorritt now. Fuck.

I'm assuming I can't acknowledge that i'm silenced on thread b/c that'd be revealing, right?

Given I was late in telling you about not being allowed to vote, I'll make a post on thread to let everyone know what happened, so that you wouldn't be breaking the no reveals rule, but wouldn't have to like try and hide something that's now pretty obvious on thread.

Alkend, on 30 November 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Well, you cross-posted that with me replying to you, so I never got notified I got a new PM,

Well, clearly i'm on the right track. It does me no good, b/c we can't lynch sorritt now. Fuck.

I'm assuming I can't acknowledge that i'm silenced on thread b/c that'd be revealing, right?

Given I was late in telling you about not being allowed to vote, I'll make a post on thread to let everyone know what happened, so that you wouldn't be breaking the no reveals rule, but wouldn't have to like try and hide something that's now pretty obvious on thread.

So... are you gonna post it or not?

Path-Shaper, on 30 November 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

Alkend, on 30 November 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

Alkend, on 29 November 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Well, you cross-posted that with me replying to you, so I never got notified I got a new PM,

Well, clearly i'm on the right track. It does me no good, b/c we can't lynch sorritt now. Fuck.

I'm assuming I can't acknowledge that i'm silenced on thread b/c that'd be revealing, right?

Given I was late in telling you about not being allowed to vote, I'll make a post on thread to let everyone know what happened, so that you wouldn't be breaking the no reveals rule, but wouldn't have to like try and hide something that's now pretty obvious on thread.

So... are you gonna post it or not?

Sorry, work's been busy this week. I said this, then got distracted. Will do so now.

Alkend, on 01 December 2016 - 03:56 AM, said:

please confirm that I want to be killing Sorritt dead.

Alkend, on 01 December 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

Beginning to suspect D'riss may have been the one to guard me last night.

Because let's be honest: my case is flimsy. Factually correct, possibly, but flimsy.

[Path-Shaper]

Kaschan:

Kaschan, on 21 November 2016 - 11:36 PM, said:

sweet!

NA Vibranium Shield

Kaschan, on 21 November 2016 - 11:38 PM, said:

oh shoot am I the leader?

Path-Shaper, on 22 November 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

Yeppers, that you are!

Kaschan, on 23 November 2016 - 04:48 PM, said:

NA Vibranium Shield

Kaschan, on 28 November 2016 - 11:37 PM, said:

Let's hope that IE isn't on my team! I'm kind of thinking that Trake and Alkend are. Possibly Gamelon.

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

As you hide behind your vibranium shield, you are suddenly certain that Gamelon is Scarlet Witch.

Kaschan, on 29 November 2016 - 03:29 PM, said:

ugh and my team is down to 3. Good play Blissy!

Kaschan, on 01 December 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

NA Vibranium Shield:

Kaschan, on 01 December 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Excellent! Glad my team pulled off that Alkend kill! We need to get one more of IMs team to get this evened out.

Kaschan, on 01 December 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

One more time...

NA Vibranium Shield:


If we can get another member of IMs team I may change it up

Kaschan, on 05 December 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

NA Vibranium Shield:

[Path-Shaper]

Sorrit:

Sorrit, on 21 November 2016 - 04:49 PM, said:

Dayum. TOO MUCH POWER. Well considering I'm a low-level backstabbing spider I'm sure everyone else's roles are more awesome. Just...don't get lynched, right?

Or get Pallid lynched. TEAM IRON MAN SHIT YEAH.

Actually I haven't seen Civil War and I need to like...watch the other movies first. But I guess for now BLACK WIDOWWWWWW.

Sorrit, on 21 November 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:

Watch me get lynched on day 1 or 2 again. I think part of the problem is I have lost a little bit of patience with the "game thread is dead" mechanic. Whether people are busy/not playing or the game is taking place off-thread. It makes me want to keep talking, which clearly other people have misunderstood the value of...no matter. Guess I should mostly shut up unless I draw heat for a lynch.

Assuming Pallid doesn't know me, maybe he knows the one person beneath him. Odds are the rest of team IRON MAN knows him as well. If the reverse is true then need to watch for that too.

I was going to start just using my ability but the problem is actually the voting. If I know I can't/won't target my leader, no reason not to do *something* if I'm gonna run out of days before I run out of players to target. The problem is if my faction gets the lynch and I also hit my faction, the no-voting is going to hurt us. Maybe not as badly on day 2 since there's still a good chance faction lines won't be drawn yet...

If we already had a vote advantage (say post-Day 1 lynch), I would probably just use it. Hmm. The independent may throw those numbers either way though, so it could still work in our favor, but perhaps risky. Hmm.

Sorrit, on 23 November 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

Provisional:

Use Widow's Bite on Trake

Sorrit, on 23 November 2016 - 03:51 AM, said:

No, change target to

Alkend

Sorrit, on 23 November 2016 - 03:55 AM, said:

Sorrit, on 21 November 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:

Watch me get lynched on day 1 or 2 again. I think part of the problem is I have lost a little bit of patience with the "game thread is dead" mechanic. Whether people are busy/not playing or the game is taking place off-thread. It makes me want to keep talking, which clearly other people have misunderstood the value of...no matter. Guess I should mostly shut up unless I draw heat for a lynch.

Assuming Pallid doesn't know me, maybe he knows the one person beneath him. Odds are the rest of team IRON MAN knows him as well. If the reverse is true then need to watch for that too.

I was going to start just using my ability but the problem is actually the voting. If I know I can't/won't target my leader, no reason not to do *something* if I'm gonna run out of days before I run out of players to target. The problem is if my faction gets the lynch and I also hit my faction, the no-voting is going to hurt us. Maybe not as badly on day 2 since there's still a good chance faction lines won't be drawn yet...

If we already had a vote advantage (say post-Day 1 lynch), I would probably just use it. Hmm. The independent may throw those numbers either way though, so it could still work in our favor, but perhaps risky. Hmm.

So basically I should just read the rules instead and that would help a lot.

Sorrit, on 23 November 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:

Just curious, did my action go through/was accepted? And did I get the change in in time to switch to Alkend, or was I still targeting Trake?

Path-Shaper, on 23 November 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 23 November 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:

Just curious, did my action go through/was accepted? And did I get the change in in time to switch to Alkend, or was I still targeting Trake?

Read the thread.

Sorrit, on 23 November 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

Thanks. Sorry to bother you with questions.

Provisional:

Widow's Bite on Alkend, if lynched, then Iparth

Sorrit, on 25 November 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 09:25 PM, said:

Well, the survivor was a handy unaligned player who would have been useful for moving along balky lynch trains. But at least my pal Iron Man still lives.

Guessing based on this that Iparth knows Pallid and must be Team Iron Man. If this is coincidence then that's crazy, can't see how the other faction would know this since all NAs were canceled -

Iparth must be VPI as far as factions are concerned.

Change provisional:

Widow's Bite on Alkend, if lynched, then Trake

Sorrit, on 29 November 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 25 November 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 23 November 2016 - 09:25 PM, said:

Well, the survivor was a handy unaligned player who would have been useful for moving along balky lynch trains. But at least my pal Iron Man still lives.

Guessing based on this that Iparth knows Pallid and must be Team Iron Man. If this is coincidence then that's crazy, can't see how the other faction would know this since all NAs were canceled -

Iparth must be VPI as far as factions are concerned.

Change provisional:

Widow's Bite on Alkend, if lynched, then Trake

Guess this was just dumb luck, he wasn't signalling Pallid, he was trying to fake signal Iron Man. Sigh.

Almost put us in a bad spot with Window's Bite. Guessing rest of my team is Pallid, Alkend, D'riss, Kaschan. Meaning CA is Anthras, Gamelon, Okaros. I wonder which one is CA. Guessing it's not Gamelon, since Iparth threw a last ditch vote on him.

Guessing Alkend is War Machine based on scene, but possible something else happened. Basing a lot of the balance here on having guarded him... we'll see if he votes at all and how he gets around it. Thankfully since we lynched and killed 2 from Team CA, losing 1 vote won't destroy our voting block if we're careful.

Widow's Bite on Anthras, if lynched, then Okaros

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Sorrit, on 29 November 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

Actually I guess I may be wrong here. Alkend just voted for me, which means either he has an ability that blocks mine, or my ability didn't go through successfully. That would mean someone else was guarded and by someone other than me.

Need to hear more from Okaros/Anthras, I feel pretty ok about D'riss/Kaschan at this point.

Sorrit, on 29 November 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

Or I guess I could have been guarded. Isn't it normal to be informed if you are guarded when using an NA though? Can't remember. If Alkend really can vote then that complicates things.

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 06:59 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 29 November 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

Or I guess I could have been guarded. Isn't it normal to be informed if you are guarded when using an NA though? Can't remember. If Alkend really can vote then that complicates things.

You would have been informed if you were guarded.

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 06:59 PM, said:

Honestly, I had forgotten about the no vote thing.

Sorrit, on 29 November 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 06:59 PM, said:

Honestly, I had forgotten about the no vote thing.

...

So...now what?

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 29 November 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 06:59 PM, said:

Honestly, I had forgotten about the no vote thing.

...

So...now what?

I've informed him that he can't vote, and I won't count his vote on a vote update.

Sorrit, on 01 December 2016 - 12:58 AM, said:

D'riss is starting to make me nervous...I feel like he's been playing too smooth. Lot of little posts here and there but not much content. Seems very calculated. Have to think about that before night falls...

Sorrit, on 01 December 2016 - 02:46 AM, said:

change action:

Widow's Bite on D'riss, if lynched, then Okaros

Path-Shaper, on 01 December 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

You have been hit with an ability that prevents you from voting during Day 4. That means you cannot place a vote at all, and you can't reveal this on thread either as per the NO REVEALS WHATSOEVER rule.

Sorrit, on 01 December 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 01 December 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

You have been hit with an ability that prevents you from voting during Day 4. That means you cannot place a vote at all, and you can't reveal this on thread either as per the NO REVEALS WHATSOEVER rule.

Uh huh. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice....

Ment, I knew you weren't lying man but I saw no way out of our little deadlock without giving too much away. I dropped hints for you and I only voted you cause I knew there would be no lynch. I guess you were too convinced that I was Captain America but I still can't see any of your logic. I also guarded you (and prevented a kill, looks like....sigh) and took your vote. Sorry. Surprised you drew the NK but I'm guessing whoever did that is happy with a quiet game, and you and I were kinda loud.

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 12:21 AM, said:

Widow's Bite on Anthras, if lynched, then Okaros

[Path-Shaper]

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

I can't help but wonder now if D'riss is CA. Okaros clearly just aligned himself as CA by voting for Pallid - 2 others left.

I am just realizing that it feels a whole like like someone reflected my ability back onto me. Like a shield. Like Captain America's badass unbreakable shield.

I can't tell if it affected him too, or if he just was told what the ability was and is faking it.

I suppose there could be another player out there with my ability on team CA, but odds of that are like 2/5 original possibilities. Someone could have been using it on someone who hasn't voted during the day, that's happened a lot. Today is the first day 2 people have claimed to be affected by the same voting mechanic.

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 04:31 PM, said:

Change action:


Widow's Bite on Okaros, if lynched, then Anthras

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

Might as well put my suspicions on D'riss out there and perhaps I can draw some attention away from Pallid without it being too obvious. If someone has to get lynched, better me than him, although it looks like we may go another night without one.

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

Gamelon aligns with team CA too. This is good for everyone on Iron Man who knows Pallid. Only one unknown left....I can't really get a read on Anthras so don't know. Kaschan has been quiet since the Iparth thing but that didn't seem like something team CA would do.

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 05:55 PM, said:

If I just went with my original suspicions that would mean Anthras is CA and D'riss is IM. If I was right about Gamelon and Okaros...well, who knows.

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

You've been guarded and cannot vote during tomorrow's day cycle.

Sorrit, on 05 December 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

You've been guarded and cannot vote during tomorrow's day cycle.

Actually, THAT sounds a lot like a reflect more than before...hmmm...

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

Ooh, something I missed that someone in SH pointed out (I thought the ability used was a guard, but it was not).

You have been hit with a kill ability. Your BP has been used.

Sorrit, on 05 December 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

Ooh, something I missed that someone in SH pointed out (I thought the ability used was a guard, but it was not).

You have been hit with a kill ability. Your BP has been used.

So...am I allowed to vote, too? Was I ever guarded or did my action go through?

Sorry, just not clear on what happened last night..


::confused::

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2016 - 10:32 PM, said:

The guard and vote block also hit you. So you were hit by a kill, you were guarded and your vote was blocked.

Sorrit, on 05 December 2016 - 10:54 PM, said:

Dear sweet Moses!

Sorrit, on 06 December 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

In case I survive the lynch:

Widow's Bite on Gamelon, if lynched, then Okaros

Sorrit, on 06 December 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 02 December 2016 - 05:55 PM, said:

If I just went with my original suspicions that would mean Anthras is CA and D'riss is IM. If I was right about Gamelon and Okaros...well, who knows.

Right now I feel much better about flipping Anthras and D'riss in this equation, which I hope isn't a mistake. 2/3 ain't bad. Hoping that team CA is D'riss/Gamelon/Okaros or else I am thoroughly confused.

As far as who CA actually is...hard to say honestly. They've all been playing cagey and faking their faction - D'riss has played very smooth, but no one has voted for him besides me - is this because Gamelon/Okaros know their leader and aren't voting for him? In fact, just to backtrack, the casual (in the faction sense) votes they both have put on Pallid should put them clearly on team CA for me, Pallid, and the other 2 team Iron Man players (Kaschan and Anthras, I'm guessing, though far more certain about Kaschan - if I'm wrong about him then I lose and he wins cause I have been fooled).

It's stupid to vote your leader in a faction game like this without a very good reason, and no one else has voted Pallid with even a hint of signaling or any such thing. Wise play, team Iron Man. Even when Pallid was a no-show...succeeded in keeping quiet without being dismissive or suspicious.

The real problem is that voting your leader will always put you under suspicion from the rest of your faction (including your leader), and getting out from under that is hard, which is why I think that no one has done that...except maybe Iparth. All the voting on me has been cause Iparth flash-voted me before the lynch; in reality, I think he was just OMGUS voting to try to get any kind of traction, and then about 30 mins later realized if he signaled his leader with a vote, perhaps his teammates wouldn't go through and lynch him. I find his switch to Gamelon pretty interesting now, knowing there would be no swing to Gamelon and not even OMGUS to back it up...perhaps Alkend wasn't wrong about the signal after all, he just latched onto the vote/remove instead of the final vote. Almost wish I had pushed this reasoning sooner but since Alkend didn't get lynched I am almost glad it has not been brought up yet.... it may still be worthwhile to bring up. If I had pushed for Gamelon earlier we might still not have had the votes, but there would have been more NAs flying around and more specific targets, so that could still work out in our favor.


So that makes me think perhaps Iparth knew Gamelon, making him Captain America.

Okaros has just been making mysterious comments, which is good for lying low but puts him at the bottom of my list for CA. Ironically, this is often why I'm totally wrong.

Crossing fingers. If we don't fuck up and lynch one of our own tonight and NAs work in our favor, perhaps we can keep vote majority for tomorrow. I have put a lot of cards on the table right now so I wouldn't be surprised if I don't last the night, and I was hoping to get vote majority before having to draw faction lines, but I think tomorrow may be too late.

[Path-Shaper]

Anthras:

Anthras, on 22 November 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

Energy Beam on Tulas Shorn

Anthras, on 23 November 2016 - 08:20 PM, said:

Thank goodness for the NA block - it'd have been so embarrassing to have submitted a NA on the lynchee and forgotten to change it, right?

Energy Beam on Trake

Anthras, on 24 November 2016 - 06:45 AM, said:

Pallid, on 23 November 2016 - 09:50 PM, said:

Only one team is here to hunt Zemo. The other is here hunting the first team.

What. The. Fuck.

Well I suppose it is time to ask if you have an inheritance mechanic because that's Iron Man dead.

Anthras, on 30 November 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Energy Beam on Sorrit

Anthras, on 01 December 2016 - 08:20 PM, said:

Energy Beam on Sorrit, if lynched Gamelon

Anthras, on 02 December 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:

Pallid might be needing a little bit of a modkill warning...

Anthras, on 05 December 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Energy Beam on Sorrit, if lynched Gamelon

[Path-Shaper]

Gamelon:

Gamelon, on 21 November 2016 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hey,

Thanks! Quick follow up on avert action, how do I call this? If I call 'Avert Fener to Denul' and let's say Fener has a kill order on Kaschan, will Denul die instead?

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 05:07 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 21 November 2016 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hey,

Thanks! Quick follow up on avert action, how do I call this? If I call 'Avert Fener to Denul' and let's say Fener has a kill order on Kaschan, will Denul die instead?

Correct! Basically you tell me whose action you want to avert, and who you want to avert the action onto, just like you described!

Gamelon, on 21 November 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

Bueno, thx!

Gamelon, on 21 November 2016 - 07:48 PM, said:

Okay, I have one more question, sorry to be a pain in the ass.

The game says no reveals, but does it also apply to my manipulation power?

Basically what I want to do is Manipulate Kaschan: Gamelon is Scarlett Witch. It is not a reveal per se but I don't want that to be against the spirit of the rules.

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2016 - 09:12 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 21 November 2016 - 07:48 PM, said:

Okay, I have one more question, sorry to be a pain in the ass.

The game says no reveals, but does it also apply to my manipulation power?

Basically what I want to do is Manipulate Kaschan: Gamelon is Scarlett Witch. It is not a reveal per se but I don't want that to be against the spirit of the rules.

No, no reveals about your character or your abilities on thread.

Gamelon, on 21 November 2016 - 09:13 PM, said:

Cool, then I stick with it as my Night action:

Manipulate Kaschan: Gamelon is Scarlett Witch

Gamelon, on 23 November 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Let's try this again

Manipulate Kaschan: Gamelon is Scarlett Witch

Gamelon, on 29 November 2016 - 07:47 PM, said:

Well, shit. This is not going well. Knew Tatts was on my team but totally misread Kruppe.

Let's try this way:
avert Alkend onto Alkend


if lynched

avert Sorrit onto Anthras

Gamelon, on 01 December 2016 - 03:51 PM, said:

Well, Alkend CF'd as expected, though this might leave me and Okaros in the spotlight, which is really bad, because I think Okaros is the last person on my team.

Manipulate Okaros: Gamelon is Scarlett Witch


if lynched


Avert D'rss onto Anthras

Please let me know if it's not okay to include both types of NA with a provisional, will change accordingly.

Path-Shaper, on 01 December 2016 - 04:00 PM, said:

I've no issues with you leaving provisionals for either action. In fact, I prefer it, just in case Day ends early for some reason.

Gamelon, on 01 December 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

Bueno, so I'll leave it as is. Thanks!

Gamelon, on 05 December 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

I hope I got it right with Okaros and that my power worked.

Manipulate D'riss: Sorrit is Scarlet Witch


If Sorrit is lynched

Avert D'riss onto Anthras

Gamelon, on 05 December 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

Or let's heat it up a little.

Manipulate D'riss: Sorrit is Captain America


If Sorrit is lynched:


Avert D'riss onto Anthras


Edited for formatting

[Path-Shaper]

Pallid:

Pallid, on 22 November 2016 - 11:11 PM, said:

Repulsar ray Iparth

Pallid, on 29 November 2016 - 12:14 PM, said:

Repulsor Ray Alkend

Pallid, on 29 November 2016 - 03:56 PM, said:

Pallid, on 29 November 2016 - 12:14 PM, said:

Repulsor Ray Alkend

Did my rays fire?


Provisional:

Unibeam Alkend

Path-Shaper, on 29 November 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:

You don't get told if your guard was successful.

Pallid, on 01 December 2016 - 02:51 AM, said:

Unibeam Alkend
If lynchd, unibeam Sorrit

Pallid, on 01 December 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

Shit

Pallid, on 03 December 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

Repulsor Ray Sorrit

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2016 - 02:56 PM, said:

I should be modkilling you for inactivity, but will let it slide for now. Please note that one post at the beginning of the day is not really participating.

Pallid, on 06 December 2016 - 04:40 PM, said:

I hate being the leader who doesn't know the underlings. Makes for a rough choice. Either talk a lot and watch to see who doesn't vote no matter how outrageous my comments or sit quietly. We tend to kill off the talkers so....

I'm still pissed I blew the call on Alkend.

Repulsor Ray Sorrit. If lynched, target Gamelon.

Pallid, on 06 December 2016 - 05:23 PM, said:

Pallid said:

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I hate being the leader who doesn't know the underlings. Makes for a rough choice. Either talk a lot and watch to see who doesn't vote no matter how outrageous my comments or sit quietly. We tend to kill off the talkers so....

I'm still pissed I blew the call on Alkend.

Repulsor Ray Sorrit. If lynched, target Gamelon.

Retract that.

Pallid, on 07 December 2016 - 02:24 AM, said:

Repulsor Gamelon

Pallid, on 07 December 2016 - 12:37 PM, said:

Repulsor Okaros

Pallid, on 07 December 2016 - 02:06 PM, said:

Repulsor Okaros