[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

The day of the swing. When I first voted Ando..

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 07:30 AM, said:

About the Andorion vote, were you trying to bait me to try to build a train off that or was it something less personal?

Nom thinking he knew the healer was Siergiej

Itwæs Nom, on 31 October 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

Mess told me the healer revealed to your two and Ando which suggest that scum knew the healer which leads me to believe it was Sierg but at the time Mess revealed Ando to be scum that'd be moment scum would realise healer knows scum know him and he could heal himself instead(if healer could do that) so scum might as well target someone who is neither guard neither healer but then why not your or Khell, wifom wifom Sierg should be healer if what Mess said was true but then you two still hiding it would be only hiding it from town because scum would already know.

This is the stuff back and forth.

Combined with the day one Blend interaction, and Ando on day one, he is my main suspect.

I cannot keep pointing at Ment going he's scum because only 2 things this game point to him being scum

Look Nom! I stood up for you!

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

The first posts I don't see anything untoward in - they seem pretty reasonable questions. His comment about you maybe trying to bait him with the Ando vote is a similar type of question to the one you asked him about Blend derailing

The healer talk...he said something pretty similar to me. You could read it two ways I suppose - one, he's scummy and trying to confirm he can now target Mess. It is massively risky though, similar to when ansible was questioning you and you thought that was scummy...

The other read is that, like me, he wants town to have its cards out on the table (and he also got excited because he figured something out and wanted to share it, which seems apparent from the style of blabbing, single long sentence writing). Basically, that he wanted you to say, "damn, you figured it out, well played."

I don't know man, you have good endgame instincts for this kind of thing. I'm much happier with a Ment vote, but I won't ultimately be surprised if I'm wrong. I just feel Nom has been too open to be scum.

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

Why kill Siergiej Khell? Why him? Obviously Ando knew he was healer but was guarded, the kill did not go through until Ando was lynched. Could Ment have provisionally put it in to kill Siergiej? I doubt it, that leaves Nom in my opinion, who was quick to jump onto the reveal by Mess without question, and shows he was around to put in his orders.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 02 November 2016 - 03:25 PM

[Khellendros]

And me getting scum mechanics hopelessly wrong, though at least I did think they knew each other.

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 11:08 AM, said:

If Ando had comms with fellow scum, he could easily have told them long ago. Then all they have to do is put in provisionals to kill Siergiej, to activate when they become a killer. So let's say Ment is the final killer, Ando tells him Sierg is healer. They know Ando is being guarded so will likely die before Sierg. So Ment puts in a prog like, 'when Ando lynched [and I become killer] kill Sierg.'

Of course, that's complete speculation on how the scum team functioned mechanically, but I haven't heard anything better

Idon'tthinkthatwouldbeaccepted,

I don't think that would be accepted, it's like putting in a kill on someone 2 days in advance.

No simplest explanation holds here, the killer was around.

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

Well if you think that then why vote for Ment now?

cause you're a big gay and think Nom is innocent.

only you know healer is dead by the way. keep that to yourself.

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

Oh sure, so it's my fault if it goes wrong

why post that on thread when maccy hasn't resolved?

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

Because it was after lynch and no NA changes could be made?

that you know! or are guessing?

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 02:47 PM, said:

Good game man!

[Tattersail_]

Yes, I waivered quite a lot towards the end of that day. Thanks for posting the PM's. Sorry Nom for the mis-trust

[Tattersail_]

Mess and I have 7 pages worth, 134 replies, and a 4 pager between us 2 and Siergiej, 73 replies worth and I don't know if Ansible's have been pasted, 2 pages 26 replies.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 02 November 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

Mess and I have 7 pages worth, 134 replies, and a 4 pager between us 2 and Siergiej, 73 replies worth and I don't know if Ansible's have been pasted, 2 pages 26 replies.

Yeah, Nom and I have a 4 or 5-pager. I'm summoning the strength, and I've got bits with Mess and Kruppe.

[Tattersail_]

I was hoping Mess was going to move them across

[Itwæs Nom]

I will get here ours one Khell

I'm not sure if I should bother with getting here my convo with Mess too, do you guys like biscuits and dairy products?

Now let's read your ones

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 02 November 2016 - 03:24 PM, said:

Look Nom! I stood up for you!

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

The first posts I don't see anything untoward in - they seem pretty reasonable questions. His comment about you maybe trying to bait him with the Ando vote is a similar type of question to the one you asked him about Blend derailing

The healer talk...he said something pretty similar to me. You could read it two ways I suppose - one, he's scummy and trying to confirm he can now target Mess. It is massively risky though, similar to when ansible was questioning you and you thought that was scummy...

The other read is that, like me, he wants town to have its cards out on the table (and he also got excited because he figured something out and wanted to share it, which seems apparent from the style of blabbing, single long sentence writing). Basically, that he wanted you to say, "damn, you figured it out, well played."

I don't know man, you have good endgame instincts for this kind of thing. I'm much happier with a Ment vote, but I won't ultimately be surprised if I'm wrong. I just feel Nom has been too open to be scum.

We wouldnt' have lynched Ment if you didn't Khell!

And I'm happy I sent the message to you all beause Mess' answers (don't remember details and he edited the message away but I think he was just trying to steer me away from thinking that SIerg's healer anyway ) made me reevaluate and do the reread which turned out to be the case on Ment that convinced Khell

Tattersail_, on 01 November 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 November 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

Well if you think that then why vote for Ment now?

cause you're a big gay and think Nom is innocent.

Haha

[Itwæs Nom]

Me and Khell convo 1

Spoiler

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:

So, I'm here and willing to discuss the platonic love topic if you're willing to have me back my dear lover?

I'm for keeping this conversation going telling the other as much thoughts as you wish and we can check our logics based on last game conversation relatively easily

Ando does seem scummy to me but I think he always does. Yesterday I spent some time in chat with Blend and ansible, don't really ahve any thoughts based on that. Ansible looks to be trying to read a lot into player's posts and taking some jokes seriously, but he is the technicall kinda guy. Ment had been posting a lot yesterday but everyone has, and as I said said in the last game I find it hard to judge him on his posting itself, especially on day1 it doesn't tell me anything, would need to tie him to something. Sierg is posting little but he was in chat later yesterday and wasn't hesitant talking non-mafia topics(he wasn't hesitant talking mafia related ones either, they just weren't talked about when he came iirc). So yeah personally don't like Ando and Sierg atm. Ments loudness could mean town role too.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

Tatts is asking lot of stupid questions, feels more fillery than last game so far

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

I agree that those willing to talk the most are generally going to feature a bit lower on my scumdar...for now.

Amiable does seem to be playing the most serious thus far - afraid of joining in the shenanigans or a virtuous townie? As I made clear on thread, I like Blend for scum, but that's just a feeling.

You appear to be assuming I'm town talking to me like this, why would you do that my erstwhile sometime lover?

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 01:54 PM, said:

Because this day's a shitshow and I don't think my opinions and conclusions based on today won't matter that much to you if you were scum. This will help my trying to label you.

Blend's playful style is undoubtebly there, gonna check his last game

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yesterday I said something to Blend that his reaction to was a bit exagerrated imo, but there's no way I can remember more details

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

Aight Blend was acting weird in 133.75, he is not acting nowhere near that weird now and is fucking about way more

I don't wanna delv into this shitshow too much (as of yet), got other things to do

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

I'm getting PMs from Tatts and Mess as well as you. Tatts is insisting that there's no way he would act this scattered as scum.

Mess is being his cool calculating self.

I don't think we're going to get anything concrete out of day 1, not intentionally anyway. Any positive result will be purely chance.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 04:57 PM, said:

I don't think Tatts would insist there's no way he can be scum if he was scum because that's just plain nonsense and he'd be more careful if scum but who knows it's Tatts

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 04:59 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 04:57 PM, said:

I don't think Tatts would insist there's no way he can be scum if he was scum because that's just plain nonsense and he'd be more careful if scum but who knows it's Tatts

Well all of last game he super insisted he wasn't scum and, uh, he wasn't. So...the same applies?

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 05:06 PM, said:

Allright I can get behind Blend's fun/serious switches as a reason better, and dismissing your vote as tongue in cheek is also weird and I don't like that he didn't want to answer to not look jumpy

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 05:06 PM, said:

Allright I can get behind Blend's fun/serious switches as a reason better, and dismissing your vote as tongue in cheek is also weird and I don't like that he didn't want to answer to not look jumpy

I reserve the right to be 100% wrong, but it is genuinely the only thing thay really stands out to me. Blend putting all this effort in now could be a sign I'm wrong, and I'm tempted by Ment's argument on Kruppe. As I said, any decision today would be mostly just chance whether we hit scum or not.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

Sierg has come to chat and apparently doesn't hide his lack of care about being absent on thread

Siergiej wild party here
Siergiej everyone sa talkative
7:50 PM
Siergiej ye, gonna need to drop a vote later on
Siergiej need to eat something first

makes me view him as a bit less scummy

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 06:34 PM, said:

Or playing it cool, not seeing a need to contribute?

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 06:34 PM, said:

Or playing it cool, not seeing a need to contribute?

Yeah and that's quite what he did when we were killers together but he appears to not give a fuck about looking like that's what he's doing

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 06:40 PM, said:

He's making a case, let's wait and see

This post has been edited by Itwæs Nom: 02 November 2016 - 05:06 PM

[Itwæs Nom]

Me And Khell convo 2

Spoiler

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

What do you think about Ando?

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 08:32 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

What do you think about Ando?

I think he's been the most serious of anyone so far. I like that, for now.

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 08:35 PM, said:

Wait, do I mean ansible or Andorion? I don't think I realised that they were both playing!

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

Haha, yeah I also like Ansible if that's what you mean

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

except for the Tatts vote to be honest, feel rushed especially now when end of the day is nearing

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

Haha, yeah I also like Ansible if that's what you mean

I think so...yeah, I think I meant ansible. I will have to check out this Andorion chap of whom you speak.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

as much as I enjoy your cheerleading skills...recall the Andorian chap?

Khellendros, on 26 October 2016 - 09:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 26 October 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

as much as I enjoy your cheerleading skills...recall the Andorian chap?

You must think my mind is like a sieve. I admit I got distracted calling for you to be voted on

Itwæs Nom, on 27 October 2016 - 11:52 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 October 2016 - 07:31 PM, said:
I can't really find anything that ansible has said that stands out to me as particularly scummy, however. His observations are on point, he is poking places that need to be poked, he's pointing out things that need to be pointed out. The only thing that kind of made me wonder a bit is when he started role speculation discussions in the chat a bit earlier. Role speculation is pretty scummy, but it's not like he's posting it on thread, so not everyone's seeing it anyway.

Anyway, so after reviewing the three of them, I'm perfectly happy to...

remove vote
vote Tattersail

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Blend was talking about ansible positively from vast majority here, don't really think that's what would he do if they were killers

Do you know of anyone else who healer revealed to too as Tatts claims? He asked me what I to make of he no NK and didn't answer me when I asked him if it was because of healer or not. Unless the town role has PMed you and you already have further info

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

I'm either rubbing ansible up the wrong way or he's really not liking the little focus I've turned on him. Probably the former No PMs from anyone as yet proclaiming their deeds. Why do you think Tatts asked you?

That's an interesting post from Blend you raise. I really need to actually go back through his posts.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:

I think that he's not in contact with healer(or he is but just doesn't know who healer is), if he was and knew if the NK was caused by healer healing successfully(or any town role being successful) the killer would already know that too and there'd be no point in hiding it

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 07:08 AM, said:

From PMs:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 October 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:
Says person who was apparently preferring other lynches until it was time to hammer and didn't vote at all


Messremb said:
I was around to hammer if needed, as I said. I wasn't needed.

As others have noted Blends play was erratic and people far better at alting than me were calling out his tells as to playstyles.

I'd have been happy to lynch *anyone* on D1 because if we don't we then spend the next two days stumbling in circles arguing about resistance to lynches etc etc etc. You I'd have been equally happy with lynching because you've had a few off notes. However looking back at the Day I am reconsidering you, don't push me. I was about to rip into you yesterday when you posted about only having 2 PMs and one of those was to PS when you corrected it, because I knew you were wrong then.

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I'm not sure I like how Mess felt the need to assure me he was willing to vote anyone and that there really was something scummy about Blend

Not much to this though, Tatts thought I need explanations of what partners and independent scum do too...

Anyway ignoring one PM by me this is next:
Messremb Sent Yesterday, 10:55 AM
I'm pretty sure I've hammered more than once in a single game when I've been scum before. Ideal place for scum is 2nd/3rd to my mind, on a lightweight case, then "absent" so can claim to not have expected it to actually go anywhere. Must look at the lynch train with that in mind, later after sleep.


Heh, I'm off to bed shortly. I suppose I'd better make a noise in thread else someone will comment on me lurking again (not realising that I'm *always* lurking on thread if I'm awake...)

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He talked about Blend's lynch as if he CFd RI

He was acting all cool though so bonus points for that, there's not much to it but maybe you can see some other significance in this

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

I asked Sierg about what he found scummy on me trying to contact you and I think the only solid answer could be that it looks like I needed to show that we already weren't in convo

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 07:41 AM, said:

Hah, Mess has just voted in the exact way he said he would were he scum looking to hide on a lynch train.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 07:45 AM, said:

Lol, can I go on and question him or have you already done that? No more info to gain if he's left alone afaik

This post has been edited by Itwæs Nom: 02 November 2016 - 05:04 PM

[Itwæs Nom]

Me and Khell convo 3

Spoiler

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 12:18 PM, said:

Given Mess's little content on thread but him PMing quite a few thoughts to you, I think he's town guard and everyone waiting for guard to reveal on thread is vain effort

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

He hasn't said anything about it to me but it's possible he could be roled in some way.

I had just been thinking what if ansible was healer? He was asking a lot of questions about the healer who revealed to Tatts and 'two others'.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

But someone still seems to be blocking scum and having only 2 sympless scum and 2 town roles?

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 12:29 PM, said:

Yup, something doesn't add up.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 02:23 PM, said:

Yeah yeah, I did know, though I didn't lie. It wasn't Mess who told me.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 02:26 PM, said:

Wouldn't mind even if you lied, it was for town's own good

Must've been Tatts right?

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 02:26 PM, said:

Wouldn't mind even if you lied, it was for town's own good

Must've been Tatts right?

Who else would have such a big mouth?

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

Two roles? Hasn't Tatts made the healer thing up?

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

Messremb, on 28 October 2016 - 03:52 PM, said:

Orders are in, don't fucking lynch more than once before I confirm I've put new orders in.

Did he tell anyone wha tthe orders are? Just that we shouldn't lynch the one wh he targeted

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 04:06 PM, said:

Presumably whichever one of Kruppe or Ment is not lynched. I need a read through, although I'm also in 'let's finish' mode. But that didn't work out so well last time.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:

Ofcourse I just forgot about existence of provisionals. I'd be happy to finish it before weekend too.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 04:46 PM, said:

Was Mess the "healer" that Tatts talked about earlier and has he really revealed to 3 random people? That'd explain why he hasn't revealed to you but ahs to Tatts

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

No, that's supposedly someone else.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 05:15 PM, said:

So Tatts told you that Mess is guard but not who the healer is?

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[Itwæs Nom]

Me and Khell convo 4

Spoiler

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

Yup. Supposedly Mess knows who it is also. Actually, he told me he'd tell me after night 3. Hold on while I ask.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

Aight aight I've actually already asked Mess about the existence of the healer

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

Did he tell you? Not asking for name

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:15 PM, said:

Are the two of you gonna lynch him tonight?

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 08:30 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

Did he tell you? Not asking for name

When I said I doubted the existence of a healer he said "all will be revealed", because he's a big smug twat face.

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 08:32 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:15 PM, said:

Are the two of you gonna lynch him tonight?

I'm voting Ment, but also thinking. What is the horrifying alternative if neither Ment nor Kruppe are scum? If scum were around, would they really have chosen not to target Mess?

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

The healer revealed to Tatts, Mess and Ando, Mess told me that

think it was Sierg, it the above explains why would he die and also Mess expressed suspicions about KoD after Tatts announced the healer's reveal

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

The healer revealed to Tatts, Mess and Ando, Mess told me that

think it was Sierg, it the above explains why would he die and also Mess expressed suspicions about KoD after Tatts announced the healer's reveal

Well that would certainly make sense why Sierg was killed. But then also any of us aside from Mess could be the killer.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:48 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

The healer revealed to Tatts, Mess and Ando, Mess told me that

think it was Sierg, it the above explains why would he die and also Mess expressed suspicions about KoD after Tatts announced the healer's reveal

Well that would certainly make sense why Sierg was killed. But then also any of us aside from Mess could be the killer.

Technically yes, why had you thought that we can't? But I believe both you and Tatts that you're not, Tatts apparently only believes you and Mess seems to believe all three of us, more or less.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

I believe tthat Tatts is worthy of the trust because he was the 2nd vote on Blend train, openly announced the healer reveal and told you that Mess is guard, why would he share any of the info if he was scum?

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

I believe tthat Tatts is worthy of the trust because he was the 2nd vote on Blend train, openly announced the healer reveal and told you that Mess is guard, why would he share any of the info if he was scum?

....The most diabolical plan ever? I don't know, I have a sense of being played for some reason. Why are you town again?

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 08:54 PM, said:

dunno

if I wasn't town and you believed Tatts, this applies:

Tattersail_, on 28 October 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

We lynch Ment,

Mess tells us who he is guarding, he best not lie case he dies,

that will leave the killer, if it is not Ment.

Am I wrong, Killer targets Mess because he cannot leave him alive, if Mess gets it right, no nk, if he gets it wrong, another CI.

So tomorrow it will be left with Khell, Me, Kruppe and Nom, Khell is VPI, and one of Kruppe or Nom is CI, we lynch the other?

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Ahh so you were assuming the killer would nearly 100% target Mess if he was around and hence couldn't be around right?

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[Itwæs Nom]

Me and Khell convo 5

Spoiler

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 09:04 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Ahh so you were assuming the killer would nearly 100% target Mess if he was around and hence couldn't be around right?

Yes, because I was also assuming thst, like me, nobody believed the healer thing.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:08 PM, said:

I hadn't believed until you said the healer supposedly is someone else

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

Would have been quicker had I not mentioned it to you

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

Would have been quicker had I not mentioned it to you

Better to be safe than sorry as we all learned last game

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:52 PM, said:

My view remains unchanged

So do you believe Tatts? If not, care to share more details?

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:53 PM, said:

Not view on "better safe than sorry" but view on the current game and development after realisation that scum most probably knew who the healer was

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 10:05 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 09:52 PM, said:

My view remains unchanged

So do you believe Tatts? If not, care to share more details?

Yes I do, but I won't put a vote down till Mess publicly says who he's guarding. I'm a stickler that way.

I'll be quite imterested to know how the NK system worked in this game afterward.

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

My guess is two simple paired killers with shared kill along with the third who only inherited kill when the other two were both dead so the guard can have bigger impact

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 11:07 PM, said:

If scum knew who the healer is/was and it was Sierg, why woukd Mess keep hiding it? He'd only be hiding it from town. Also after Ando's CF the healer must've known scum knows him and scum mustve known that the healer knows they know, there'd be a chance that healer heals himself instead, maybe scum were for someone who is neither of the town roles to be absolutely safe from healer healing successfully, in which case KoD should be the healer but then there's Mess stating he likes KoD as a scum D1 after Tatts announced the reveal

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 11:24 PM, said:

Healer and scum would know not afyer Ando's CF but likely already by the time Mess revealed. So if the scum wasn't around at the time he would probably still have the NK on healer and both main suspects appear to not have been around. So I still find Sierg being healer most likely but with Mess hiding it looks like something is off

Itwæs Nom, on 28 October 2016 - 11:32 PM, said:

Ofcourse you know the provisionals, if they're on KoD then he apparently isn't the healer and it was Sierg, if they're on me then KoD likely is the healer

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Not much betwixt Tatts and myself. I felt written off as useless, hence my post about being excluded from the PM Circle Jerk!

Tattersail_, on 25 October 2016 - 02:23 PM, said:

how are you going to play this game?
are you town or scum?

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 25 October 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

I have no idea. Not keen on the whole off-thread communication dealy. For what it's worth, I'm RI.

Tattersail_, on 25 October 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 25 October 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

I have no idea. Not keen on the whole off-thread communication dealy. For what it's worth, I'm RI.

what are your thoughts on ment and blend so far?

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 25 October 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

It's only day one, and I have zero experience with Blend. Ment latching onto my jokes and calling fake symp, with Blend following suit is a bit curious though.

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 27 October 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

CONGRATS! Blend's vote on you and Blend turning out Scum leads me to believe you're PI. Unless you were counting on Kruppe getting further votes, making your Blend vote a safe one. But you didn't waver late, so PI it is.
Ment suddenly going all soft on me after being hard line all day strikes me as odd. If he's so convinced of my guilt, why should my vote on Blend change his mind so easily? That, coupled with Blend NOT voting for me when he had a chance makes me think he was reluctant to back fellow Scum when he would have been just the 3rd vote on a guy who was going to CF as RI.

That was my last communication with Tatts. I wish I had gone back to review this convo, it might have rekindled my paranoia toward Ment instead of going off on my Nom tangent.

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Of the four comms I was involved in, this one with Khell was the only one I initiated myself (other than a very brief late-stage convo with Ment).

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 27 October 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Well, since I'm stingy, I'm only going to give you a Probably Innocent, and if I had a town role I wouldn't be letting on just yet. Moot anyway, since I'm just RI.

Ment says: "I probably owe Kruppe and apology..." Seems an odd thing for town to say. Just because I voted Blend and Blend was Scum. Why back off if he thinks I'm Scum to begin with. There's surely more than one, so why concede so easily when he was so aggressive all day 1?

Khellendros, on 27 October 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

At first I thought it was odd too. However, thinking on it, at the time when you voted, Nom was an equally viable candidate, so if you were scum seeking to protect Blend, you could/should have voted there.
Also, boo to your reasonable amount of wariness, boo I say!!

After Khell solicited roled players to contact him:

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 27 October 2016 - 09:07 PM, said:

Any takers on your appeal to the foolhardy? Good luck with that if it actually works.

Khellendros, on 27 October 2016 - 09:31 PM, said:

Do you think I would let you know if I did

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 27 October 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 27 October 2016 - 09:31 PM, said:

Do you think I would let you know if I did

Only to say YES or NO. I wasn't asking for or expecting any names. Good luck with that if it actually works1

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 28 October 2016 - 12:30 AM, said:

Sierg and Ando are coasting along with far fewer posts than even P-S. One or both are hiding something. Hiding good or hiding evil, I don't know.

Khellendros, on 28 October 2016 - 12:42 AM, said:

I'd pick....he'll, I don't know. They both as out of the picture as each other. Neither voted for Blend...who knows what that means.

Turned out the were BOTH hiding somthing!

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

BAH! I was halfway done with copying my convo with Mess but lost it in the aether. Gonna have to try again later.

[Khellendros]

Thanks Nom and Kruppe for posting these! Always funny to see how close something that was said was, only usually in a completely different way than intended or dismissed at the time!

[Mentalist]

Scum convo is like 8 pgs long... I'll probably do it on the weekend.