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Mafia 134.75 - Game Thread Faceless Men and Serial Killers Oh My!

#141 User is offline   Bek Okhan 

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 08:29 PM

If we are to look @ Korlat's posting times yest, he missed the bulk of his posting window today. He has not been on since the NK announcement. And given the quantity of his posts (comparable with normal Tatts), his silence today is odd...Also, he started making lists.

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Putting in a quote, so hopefully I can do a vote on separate line vote Korlat

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 08:30 PM

View PostEisenhower, on 06 October 2016 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostWashington, on 06 October 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'm taking the dog for a walk. don't take my 45 min. absence as incriminating. :p


It's coming up to 2 hours now, that is incriminating :p


Blame the dog... :paranoid:

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 08:30 PM

View PostBek Okhan, on 06 October 2016 - 08:29 PM, said:

<br />If we are to look @ Korlat's posting times yest, he missed the bulk of his posting window today. He has not been on since the NK announcement. And given the quantity of his posts (comparable with normal Tatts), his silence today is odd...Also, he started making lists.

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Putting in a quote, so hopefully I can do a vote on separate line <b> vote Korlat </b><br />
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Nope, still fail.

Guess it HAS to be a respose post for posting to work.

You'd think Silencer'd have fixed the skins by now...

#144 User is offline   Ryllandaras 

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 08:46 PM

View PostDenesmet, on 06 October 2016 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostEisenhower, on 06 October 2016 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostWashington, on 06 October 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'm taking the dog for a walk. don't take my 45 min. absence as incriminating. :p


It's coming up to 2 hours now, that is incriminating :p


Blame the dog... :paranoid:

I'm not getting the Washington/Eisenhower reference...

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:08 PM

View PostBabylon, on 06 October 2016 - 08:46 PM, said:

View PostLincoln, on 06 October 2016 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAnnie, on 06 October 2016 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostNapoleon, on 06 October 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'm taking the dog for a walk. don't take my 45 min. absence as incriminating. :p


It's coming up to 2 hours now, that is incriminating :p


Blame the dog... :paranoid:

I'm not getting the Washington/Eisenhower reference...


FM innoculation. There's a pattern. Not so simple as to be easily cracked. Not so hard as to be useless. Medium strength. FM might not get it. One or more RIs might figure it out and be able to tell if the FM was screwing it up.

And the pain-in-the-ass factor is its own deterrent to alt usurpation.

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:21 PM

View PostAlexandria, on 06 October 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

fucking hell thats a nasty first phase for us.

I'm tempted to go right back to voting Korlat


I recognize that I posted something similar, but this is a little too "golly-gee-willikers" for my taste.


Vote Anomandaris

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:22 PM

Oh I see it now... that's cute...

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:43 PM

View PostDenesmet, on 06 October 2016 - 09:21 PM, said:

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View PostAlexandria, on 06 October 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

<br />fucking hell thats a nasty first phase for us.<br /><br />I'm tempted to go right back to voting Korlat<br />
<br /><br />I recognize that I posted something similar, but this is a little too &quot;golly-gee-willikers&quot; for my taste.<br /><br /><br /><b>Vote Anomandaris</b><br />
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I don't. But I guess that could be a gap in my knowledge of Western pop culture.

One of those times my immigrant nature is exposed.

#149 User is offline   Denesmet 

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:00 PM

Just a wee bit to emphatic and melodramatic, IMO. Not much to go on, but I have little to go on.


PS. I messed up my own pattern in my previous post. Dare I fix it?

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:04 PM

View PostDenesmet, on 06 October 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

Just a wee bit to emphatic and melodramatic, IMO. Not much to go on, but I have little to go on.


PS. I messed up my own pattern in my previous post. Dare I fix it?

Editing posts in a game like this should be modkillable imo.

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:06 PM

View PostDenesmet, on 06 October 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

<br />Just a wee bit to emphatic and melodramatic, IMO. Not much to go on, but I have little to go on.<br /><br /><br />PS. I messed up my own pattern in my previous post. Dare I fix it?<br />
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So i'm guessing you think Ano is the SK?

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:13 PM

View PostAlexandria, on 06 October 2016 - 10:04 PM, said:

View PostFranklin, on 06 October 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

Just a wee bit to emphatic and melodramatic, IMO. Not much to go on, but I have little to go on.


PS. I messed up my own pattern in my previous post. Dare I fix it?

Editing posts in a game like this should be modkillable imo.


Goes without saying that I have the greatest respect for your opinion.


And I'm sure you'd much rather kill me yourself. :p

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:18 PM

View PostJersey, on 06 October 2016 - 10:06 PM, said:

View PostMonty, on 06 October 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

<br />Just a wee bit to emphatic and melodramatic, IMO. Not much to go on, but I have little to go on.<br /><br /><br />PS. I messed up my own pattern in my previous post. Dare I fix it?<br />
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So i'm guessing you think Ano is the SK?


Him or you, but I flipped a coin. :p

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:28 PM

On my phone. Was just about to fall asleep.
Who was it today that started the speculation on the ultama/tatts/korlat?
Iirc there was a post where they suggested that our healer healed the so target and the fm jumped our healer.

This has to be bullshit, that person is our sk or fm

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:39 PM

View PostMonok Ochem, on 06 October 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

But only one death. So I would assume the FM doesn't jump every night.



View PostMonok Ochem, on 06 October 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

Or the more complicated version of Tatts healing the right target, only to be jumped into by the FM, and what we see as Ultama' s CF actually belongs/ed to another, and Ultama was the FM's original body.Thoughts?



View PostAnomandaris, on 06 October 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

On my phone. Was just about to fall asleep.Who was it today that started the speculation on the ultama/tatts/korlat?Iirc there was a post where they suggested that our healer healed the so target and the fm jumped our healer.This has to be bullshit, that person is our sk or fm


Quoted for you. I agree, the healer part is a stretch and I don't love Monok's reasoning there, but I do agree that Ultama's posting times and style don't look like Tatts.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:22 AM

There was only one NK. My first thought was that FM can't jump every night.

But I also put out there the possibility of Ultama being the original FM and the NK coming because of a jump, rather than an SK kill. Fener pointed out Ultama's posting time last night, which does not match up with Tatts. Korlat has also been very absent today, whom several believed to have been Tatts.

So while on the surface it looks like we had an SK kill last night and no jump, it seems more and more likely that it was vice versa (with the SK not killing for one reason or another), and that the FM could now be in Korlat.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:24 AM

So why "it has to be bullshit" Ano, I'm not understanding.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:24 AM

I'm going to take a look at Ultama and Korlat's posts from day 1.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:52 AM

So yesterday Ultama and Korlat posted at largely the same time. Similar posting zones would make for a good jump choice in that respect. The one exception is Ultama's half 5 in the morning posts (UK time), with Korlat not coming back on till about 11am.

I've picked out a few posts of interest:


View PostKorlat, on 04 October 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I am here. I should be able to post regularly and have no RL issues to deal with.


Then where are they today?


View PostKorlat, on 05 October 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 05 October 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on 05 October 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

I assumed Ultama was saying HP was fast out of the gate


I wasn't refreshing the board every three minutes for the past two days. I swear I wasn't. Honest!


We never do! Waiting for the game to start. Psh.

We should all be developing a personality on thread this game, to make it hard for the FM to overtake us. Those like JPK and Nom have never played an FM game before have they, so we need a good town strategy early doors.


Arguably, Korlat rules themselves out of being JPK and Nom here (and later Kruppe also), so if we're trying to work out if Korlat was Tatts, here are some players they probably aren't. Additional note, Tatts generally loves to give advice to new players/those inexperienced in certain games/mechanics.




View PostUltama, on 06 October 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

remove vote

vote Togg




View PostUltama, on 06 October 2016 - 04:53 AM, said:

I was waiting for somebody to calculate the votes for me, thank you for that.



The above two are the 'controversial' posts from Ultama. If Ultama was Tatts, then this is outside his regular posting time. Not by a huge amount, I have seen him start posting around 7am in some games, but enough to be questionable. There is also the suggestion in Ultama's second post that they hadn't come on just then, but had been around for some time before that, which again would put them on the forum and thread at an unusual time if they were Tatts. Having said that, I should reiterate that all of Ultama's other posts were in normal posting times for Tatts.


Ultama's style of posting, however, was not reminiscent of Tatts. The one caveat there is that he may have been playing differently due to being roled. Still, I'd be more convinced of that if we didn't have someone so Tatts-like in day 1 Korlat.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 01:02 AM

View PostMonok Ochem, on 07 October 2016 - 12:52 AM, said:

So yesterday Ultama and Korlat posted at largely the same time. Similar posting zones would make for a good jump choice in that respect. The one exception is Ultama's half 5 in the morning posts (UK time), with Korlat not coming back on till about 11am.

I've picked out a few posts of interest:


View PostKorlat, on 04 October 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I am here. I should be able to post regularly and have no RL issues to deal with.


Then where are they today?


View PostKorlat, on 05 October 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 05 October 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on 05 October 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

I assumed Ultama was saying HP was fast out of the gate


I wasn't refreshing the board every three minutes for the past two days. I swear I wasn't. Honest!


We never do! Waiting for the game to start. Psh.

We should all be developing a personality on thread this game, to make it hard for the FM to overtake us. Those like JPK and Nom have never played an FM game before have they, so we need a good town strategy early doors.


Arguably, Korlat rules themselves out of being JPK and Nom here (and later Kruppe also), so if we're trying to work out if Korlat was Tatts, here are some players they probably aren't. Additional note, Tatts generally loves to give advice to new players/those inexperienced in certain games/mechanics.




View PostUltama, on 06 October 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

remove vote

vote Togg




View PostUltama, on 06 October 2016 - 04:53 AM, said:

I was waiting for somebody to calculate the votes for me, thank you for that.



The above two are the 'controversial' posts from Ultama. If Ultama was Tatts, then this is outside his regular posting time. Not by a huge amount, I have seen him start posting around 7am in some games, but enough to be questionable. There is also the suggestion in Ultama's second post that they hadn't come on just then, but had been around for some time before that, which again would put them on the forum and thread at an unusual time if they were Tatts. Having said that, I should reiterate that all of Ultama's other posts were in normal posting times for Tatts.


Ultama's style of posting, however, was not reminiscent of Tatts. The one caveat there is that he may have been playing differently due to being roled. Still, I'd be more convinced of that if we didn't have someone so Tatts-like in day 1 Korlat.


Agreed. Add to that, day 1, I was already thinking that Korlat was Tatts. I have made a couple other alt assumptions based on play, but I don't think now is the time to go into them.

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