[Macros]

its the Khell lynch is the one that's bugging me, ando's willingness to flop about on votes pushes me that direction.
Dolmens wifoming post on the coltaine death and general suspicion from other players pushes me in the nom direction.

khell did a lot of posting near his end and to me the self vote puts him as RI, I can't see a symp doing that as he could have easily let the day time out and tied up another day on us on the next day. He makes some pretty interesting points as well and nearly all pointed at these two. I'm leaning more towards Ando at the minute but want to see what others think. We have time

[Blend]

I'm hoping to get a chance to really reread the thread today! I'm now Day 2 into the new job, I'll likely be able to spend a bit of my downtime reading up.

Off the top of my head, though, my instincts definitely lean more towards Ando than they do toward Nom.

Still don't trust you, though, Macros. No specific reason as yet, but I'm hoping to find one!

[Dolmen 2.0]

Ok i'm just out a 5 hour meeting with contractor and the building team. My mind is numb.

Give me an hour break for fresh eyes and a reread. Will make my vote once i've read the thread through.

[JPK]

I'm kind of around too. On mobile at work though, so quote-fu will be difficult today.

This is very likely d-day though, so v we need something more solid than "I don't trust you" Blend. For that matter, we really shouldn't be trusting anyone at this point since scum has been running us in circles lynching our own, or at least sitting back and laughing as we do it without them.

I'm going to do a full re-read and see if I can pin down anything a bit more concrete.

[JPK]

Alright, it's time for me to step up my game. After a read, I found two common denominators on each of the town lynches. First up, for full disclosure purposes, I'm on each of them. However, so is someone else who has drawn a lot of fire and had several of the people asking questions of him die at night. Nom.


Day 1: Very thin reasoning for the vote, and very non-commital. This is also when he mentions the possible presence of a healer (fishing?).

Itwæs Nom, on 20 September 2016 - 09:19 PM, said:

After Blend's case something has come to my mind. And that is possible presence of healer, if there's one he's just as likely to target Tatts as scum would be, but I doubt scum will with the possibility.Vote TattsNow I can go to bed

Path-Shaper, on 21 September 2016 - 12:04 AM, said:

Day 1 has ended
7 votes for Tattersail (Kotillion, Lady Bliss, Blend, ItWasNom, JPK, Macros, Siergeij)

Day 2: Blows off suspicions early and takes the majority of the day off greying to shake off a bad day (not attacking for this. Been there too) A second non-commited vote. Also the night that Colt turns up dead.

Itwæs Nom, on 21 September 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

I hesitated if I should post the reason or not, I decided to do so because it doesn't call for role discussion and killers surely were aware of possible presence of healer. Found it better option than voting without giving the reason or giving some empty reason saying nothing at allBad day, not in mood, will be back tommorow

Itwæs Nom, on 22 September 2016 - 10:01 AM, said:

So I've skimmed up through D2Of the lynch candidates I'm liking Khell better. It feels like he's trying to look like town just too much for my liking. He's nitpicking everywhere where he can to make as much sensible arguments as possible. I don't like Khell's reaction to Blend because having no apparent and concrete scummy flaws looks to be his strategy.I like Bliss's argument on my case about me changing opinions, it's the best one against me imo. I liked Khell's D1 case on her but that's symp case anyway. She made some sensible points but isn't pushing her opinions too hard. Vote Khell

Path-Shaper, on 22 September 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

Day 2 has ended.
6 votes for Khellendros (Lady Bliss, JPK, Blend, ItWasNom, Andorion, Khellendros)
1 votes for ItWasNom (Coltaine)

[Itwæs Nom]

During the time I was looking like the hottest target this was Kitsu's thoughts on me:

JPK, on 21 September 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

...

So far I'm liking the case on Nom. He really skills know better than to speculate on Town Roles by now. It never helps town.

...

JPK, on 22 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I think it's going to be around 4 am for me here. So I guess I'd better make a decision.
...

I've seen several players voice approval for epithet a Nom or a Khell lynch. I'm going to do one more read-through and then decide where to place my vote.
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JPK, on 22 September 2016 - 04:14 AM, said:

Blend, on 22 September 2016 - 03:44 AM, said:

But still like a Khell vote.

Not a fan of a Nom vote. Yall piled on pretty quickly.

I agree with this. However I'm going to expand on it past one liners.

Nom really hasn't had much that should be setting him up as scum so far. His day one play amounted to bringing up the presence of a healer. Now, I know that it's not a good idea to discuss town roles, but outside of a day 1 lynch I don't think it's enough to hang someone on. Also, if he WERE a killer, what is his symp doing? He hasn't really had anyone stand up for him on either day 1 or 2. Finally, his day 2 is bugging the shit out of me. Claiming a bad day and not even attempting to fight his way out of the corner. I just don't see Nom doing that if he was scum. Hell, I don't see him doing that if he were roled at all.

...

Yesterday this:

JPK, on 26 September 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

I'm interested in either a Nom or a HO lynch.

The failed train on Nom left a lot wise open, and I find the case Dolmen has made on HO well thought out. There's a difference between low posting and not bringing anything to the table.

So I'm curious what makes you like me best as the lynch candidate?

Kitsu would be my second choice for scum, followed by Macros.

[Itwæs Nom]

Crosspost, the quotes took me too long

[JPK]

Day 3 is where things got really interesting to me. First Nom takes time to point out that people who have been questioning him are ending up dead. A bit of WIFOM spiced with a dash of threat?

Itwæs Nom, on 26 September 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

Since scum is taking down people who had at points wanted to lynch me I'm going to assume at least one of the killers should not be opposed to lynching me, which leaves me with pool of Bliss, Ando and Dolmen. Who also happen to be people who vote/want to vote HO, which I dislike because every game I've played he was in he played just like this so I think it's purely mathematical chance with him and he has literally zero interactions. I understand Dolmen doesn't know that so he gets a pass. Although he was the one to point out victim's connections with me, killers would want thread to notice that when they're taking the pains to apparently frame me. Otherwise I'm getting townie vibe from him. Bliss feels just too reckless to me. I have no real impression about Ando.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 September 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

Or the killers were just trying to get roled ones and victims' interest in lynching me was coincidental

A non-commited vote on Lady B at first, until she reveals.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 September 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

Not sure if I can get back here before timeout soVote BlissPlease consider it bold don't have time do to that right now

Itwæs Nom, on 26 September 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

remove votefor now, I'll be more or less around until timeout but you can count on me with voting before we run out of time

And then followed up with an equally uncaring vote on HO.

Itwæs Nom, on 26 September 2016 - 04:51 PM, said:

vote HODoesn't look like Ando lynch has any chance, he hasn't made many connections either despite not saying that little, but that's what I don't like about him. Or any other lynch from me or Ho for that matter.

Path-Shaper, on 26 September 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

It is Day 3.
5 votes for HiddenOne (Dolmen2.0,Lady Bliss, JPK, ItWasNom, Macros)

With all of this I think it very likely Nom is a killer and has likely been laughing at us ever since the failed lynch on day 2.

Vote Nom

[Itwæs Nom]

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

Day 3 is where things got really interesting to me. First Nom takes time to point out that people who have been questioning him are ending up dead. A bit of WIFOM spiced with a dash of threat?

Itwæs Nom, on 26 September 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

Since scum is taking down people who had at points wanted to lynch me I'm going to assume at least one of the killers should not be opposed to lynching me, which leaves me with pool of Bliss, Ando and Dolmen. Who also happen to be people who vote/want to vote HO, which I dislike because every game I've played he was in he played just like this so I think it's purely mathematical chance with him and he has literally zero interactions. I understand Dolmen doesn't know that so he gets a pass. Although he was the one to point out victim's connections with me, killers would want thread to notice that when they're taking the pains to apparently frame me. Otherwise I'm getting townie vibe from him. Bliss feels just too reckless to me. I have no real impression about Ando.

I haven't read the rest and I'm sorry but I can't but laugh at this

By the way it was Dolmen who noticed that and pointed it out, I was just continuing on that

[Itwæs Nom]

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

With all of this I think it very likely Nom is a killer and has likely been laughing at us ever since the failed lynch on day 2.

No but thank you, you almost made up for it

[Itwæs Nom]

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

[Itwæs Nom]

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

This seems just like the defelction that just had to come if we were to lynch a killer, it only reinforces my faith in Ando being the killer.

vote Andorion

[Andorion]

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

This seems just like the defelction that just had to come if we were to lynch a killer, it only reinforces my faith in Ando being the killer.

vote Andorion

You do realize you are literally talking to yourself?

[JPK]

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

Except that if you take a moment to look at the facts there are only two of us who have been on every vote-train. You and me buddy. I have a distinct impression that you're trying to set up yet another townie for a lynch. Was it satisfying to get to issue the kill order on Lady B instead odd just seeing her lynched?

[Itwæs Nom]

Andorion, on 27 September 2016 - 05:31 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

This seems just like the defelction that just had to come if we were to lynch a killer, it only reinforces my faith in Ando being the killer.

vote Andorion

You do realize you are literally talking to yourself?

I was continuing on what I said in the quoted post

[Itwæs Nom]

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

Except that if you take a moment to look at the facts there are only two of us who have been on every vote-train. You and me buddy. I have a distinct impression that you're trying to set up yet another townie for a lynch. Was it satisfying to get to issue the kill order on Lady B instead odd just seeing her lynched?

If that's such a reliable indicator scuminess why are we not both scum?

[Andorion]

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

Except that if you take a moment to look at the facts there are only two of us who have been on every vote-train. You and me buddy. I have a distinct impression that you're trying to set up yet another townie for a lynch. Was it satisfying to get to issue the kill order on Lady B instead odd just seeing her lynched?

If that's such a reliable indicator scuminess why are we not both scum?

Well you could be, I am not ruling it out

[JPK]

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

Except that if you take a moment to look at the facts there are only two of us who have been on every vote-train. You and me buddy. I have a distinct impression that you're trying to set up yet another townie for a lynch. Was it satisfying to get to issue the kill order on Lady B instead odd just seeing her lynched?

If that's such a reliable indicator scuminess why are we not both scum?

Misguided as I've been, I've put out reasons for where I've placed my votes or decided not to every time. You just honestly don't see to care where your votes have been going as long as they aren't on yourself. You haven't been aiming to find scum until today. It's almost like you were OK with taking out members of town or something...

[Andorion]

I am going to reiterate what I have said before:

The arguments against Nom still hold good. He is still my best bet for scum

Vote Nom

[Itwæs Nom]

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:47 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

JPK, on 27 September 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 27 September 2016 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also forgot to mention Kitsu has been ignoring Ando for whole game, not a single mention of him. That's also why Iike them as second killer if Ando turned out to be one.

Except that if you take a moment to look at the facts there are only two of us who have been on every vote-train. You and me buddy. I have a distinct impression that you're trying to set up yet another townie for a lynch. Was it satisfying to get to issue the kill order on Lady B instead odd just seeing her lynched?

If that's such a reliable indicator scuminess why are we not both scum?

Misguided as I've been, I've put out reasons for where I've placed my votes or decided not to every time. You just honestly don't see to care where your votes have been going as long as they aren't on yourself. You haven't been aiming to find scum until today. It's almost like you were OK with taking out members of town or something...

That's more or less what the case is on Ando and you don't even bother to lose a single comment on that before voting for me? Even though his name was brought up more times than mine after Bliss's reveal(or I think it was, didn't count it)?

edit: contradictory positive/negative form of sentences

This post has been edited by Itwæs Nom: 27 September 2016 - 05:57 PM