[Denesmet]

I'm just gonna throw it out there that if I was modding, modding and I put "no reveals" in all caps, I would modkill your ass for trying to game the rules.

Secondly, wtf is He-man?

Thirdly, why on earth would you want to reveal roles if you're town?

[Eloth]

It's a non town action. However extremely ballsy as a killer, hence my assumption of dumbass or symp

[Denesmet]

Eloth, on 11 August 2016 - 01:12 AM, said:

It's a non town action. However extremely ballsy as a killer, hence my assumption of dumbass or symp

I'd agree, except grasp seems to be tryin too hard to make his vote seem OMGUS and nothing else.

[Bendal Home]

Well that read up is a complete monkey fuck. (See what I did there)

I am in the unfortunate position of finding myself in agreement with Eloth. One the one hand I admire a good gamble by town to try to trap scum. But monoks play is just so much wifom that him and gasp have now put them selves squarely in the to much trouble to keep around camp.

I have several problem with this type of play.

A. What kind of nut bag starts off the game trying to both vpi and trap scum.

B. What kinds of other players actually defend that kind of behavior and consider it acceptable. Looking at you lock and gasp.

C. There seems to be no thought to the down side potential. Which runs counter to how I play. Wcs every time all the time.

Monok has to go. To much wifom around him and to much more potential in the days to come.

vote monok

[Silanah]

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man, "I have the Power!"Vote Lock

So Monok is clearly try to start something here

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

Checking in.The he man reference stokes me as odd. But then it's mafia day one, random shit flinging votes ahoy!

vote eloth

And here

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 PM, said:

Back briefly. I got to say I hate this alt. Logging in is an effort. To address my vote and leave, it's more a vote and switch back to normal alt as I've got interest elsewhere on the forum but I don't see the problem.I made a veiled play as to my allegiance voted someone to get the ball rolling whom countered by noticing my play. Removed vote and voted for someone who didn't understand slash thought the He-Man bit was relevant.Let's quickly skim the thread for what Denny is on about...

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:43 PM, said:

Right didn't read anything after your jumpy post Den. To me it was simple. I don't think everyone would have got theI have the power, keyword, power and linked it to the vote.Ie I don't think those with Roles would have anyway. I think the good ri's may have kept shut and seen what everyone said.Eloth got my vote because he was first to not understand. Although Karosis didn't mention it either and voted me jokingly but he didn't comment on what I said so gets a pass. Grasp highlighted Silanah I think but he came later than Eloth too. Did you get it Den? Let me go looksy...

But the thing is that I don't buy his explanation. His strategy of referring to his Role PM to smoke out roled players is unbelievably stupid. Why?

1. He would have to be a mint new player not to know the standard RI Role PM, and a glance at the signups shows that we don't have any in the game.

2. Revealing Roled Town on Day 1, is the ultimate in scummy actions.

So its either an extremely stupid strategy, or its an attempted bit of intentional stirring the pot to provoke a flurry of responses and cause confusion.

[Silanah]

Also regarding Monok's explanation and his first post, if you are trying to use an RI Role PM reference to smoke people out, why vote Lock? I mean early Day 1 votes in Mafia are usually frivolous, but according to Monok himself this post was part of a strategy, making that vote non-random.

Which for me raises all sorts of interesting questions like distancing.

[Silanah]

Grasp, on 10 August 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man, "I have the Power!"Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

Based on this here....vote Silanah

Grasp, on 10 August 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

Checking in.The he man reference stokes me as odd. But then it's mafia day one, random shit flinging votes ahoy!

vote eloth

Thanks for the logic there Monok.and for whomever stepped in to nicely explain how Monok is clearly RI for us. smooth.Lock and grasp upon a quick glance. of the two, Grasps post sticks out more.Will vote for monok, lock or grasps at this junction.

You're just digging your hole deeper and deeper sir.remove votevote Eloth

And here we have Grasp jumping on anybody who look at Monok funny.

Grasp, on 10 August 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

Liosan, on 10 August 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

Grasp, on 10 August 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

Checking in.The he man reference stokes me as odd. But then it's mafia day one, random shit flinging votes ahoy!

vote eloth

Thanks for the logic there Monok.and for whomever stepped in to nicely explain how Monok is clearly RI for us. smooth.Lock and grasp upon a quick glance. of the two, Grasps post sticks out more.Will vote for monok, lock or grasps at this junction.

You're just digging your hole deeper and deeper sir.remove votevote Eloth

So you are voting Eloth because he listed you as a point of interest?

No, I'm voting him because I think he's not an RI. It means he COULD be a role townie, but it also means he could be scum. I'm betting scum.

And we have this. This makes no sense. Its early Day 1, there is barely anything on thread and you are risking lynching potentially roled Town based on a half-assed strategy?

[Silanah]

Gait, on 10 August 2016 - 11:17 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

And so it has proved to be. And nice subtle stirring and steering there Sil. You might be one to watch.

I was correct though, wasn't I?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 13 hours and 37 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Denesmet, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Liosan, Lock, Monok Ochem, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Eloth ( Monok Ochem, Grasp )
3 Votes for Monok Ochem ( Karosis, Fener, Bendal Home )

Players not voted: Denesmet, Eloth, gait, Liosan, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

[Lock]

Bendal Home, on 11 August 2016 - 02:48 AM, said:

B. What kinds of other players actually defend that kind of behavior and consider it acceptable. Looking at you lock and gasp.

Glaring back

Whatchu looking at me like that for, fool?

Looks like we've got 25 players

[Serc]

Okay, everyone's in and so far Monok looks like a good lynch target. A lame attempt at positioning themselves as RI and when called out on this, framing it as a lure for roled players. Say what? That itself is more than most first day lynches are built on.

vote Monok

[Monok Ochem]

Read up and more than enough players say what I tried was scummy, therefore I take my hat off. I am not scum. Yet I will self vote with dignity.

Remove Vote
Vote Monok Ochem

I would say that you should still go off wcs going forward because I am not the symp.

[Skintick]

Monok Ochem, on 11 August 2016 - 07:37 AM, said:

Read up and more than enough players say what I tried was scummy, therefore I take my hat off. I am not scum. Yet I will self vote with dignity.

Remove Vote
Vote Monok Ochem

I would say that you should still go off wcs going forward because I am not the symp.

Really? Serc was only L5, your vote L4. You are far from lost.

Grasp, on 10 August 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

Based on this here....

vote Silanah

Grasp, on 10 August 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 August 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

Checking in.

The he man reference stokes me as odd. But then it's mafia day one, random shit flinging votes ahoy!

vote eloth

Thanks for the logic there Monok.

and for whomever stepped in to nicely explain how Monok is clearly RI for us. smooth.

Lock and grasp upon a quick glance. of the two, Grasps post sticks out more.

Will vote for monok, lock or grasps at this junction.

You're just digging your hole deeper and deeper sir.

remove vote
vote Eloth

I'm currently more interested in Grasp. They follow a not well-thought-out idea very quickly.

[Gait]

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

Gait, on 10 August 2016 - 11:17 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

And so it has proved to be. And nice subtle stirring and steering there Sil. You might be one to watch.

I was correct though, wasn't I?

Well yes, that's my point. Your comment helped to nudge that along by getting people to focus on Monok's post. It was the offhanded way you did it that irks me. If Monok turns up scum, all well and good and I'm reading too much into it, but the self-vote makes me suspect that they won't.

[Denesmet]

Monok Ochem, on 11 August 2016 - 07:37 AM, said:

Read up and more than enough players say what I tried was scummy, therefore I take my hat off. I am not scum. Yet I will self vote with dignity.

Remove Vote
Vote Monok Ochem

I would say that you should still go off wcs going forward because I am not the symp.

congratulations. After a post like this, there's literally 0 other options

vote Monoch

because that's just waaay too much WIFOM to leave lying around stinking up the place.

[Lock]

Denesmet, on 11 August 2016 - 01:03 AM, said:

I'm just gonna throw it out there that if I was modding, modding and I put "no reveals" in all caps, I would modkill your ass for trying to game the rules.

Who was this pointed at and what for?

[Denesmet]

Lock, on 11 August 2016 - 11:38 AM, said:

Denesmet, on 11 August 2016 - 01:03 AM, said:

I'm just gonna throw it out there that if I was modding, modding and I put "no reveals" in all caps, I would modkill your ass for trying to game the rules.

Who was this pointed at and what for?

Monoch, obv. for trying to "CI" RIs using the role PM. It's been done before (see Tyrant Steve, Batman Arkham City, etc), and it didn't end well.

[Liosan]

I think as far as the day 1 cases go, Monok has tried a bit too hard to make us think that he is RI, and there was too much of a spaz once the heat was put on him.

vote Monok

[Karosis]

My internet is seriously shit folks, have had a swarm of BT vans in our village and the next (up line alas) for two days now mooching around. Calls last approx 2min with crackles before dropping, internet is worse. Of course call centres know nothing. Joy.

[Karosis]

Monok Ochem, on 11 August 2016 - 07:37 AM, said:

Read up and more than enough players say what I tried was scummy, therefore I take my hat off. I am not scum. Yet I will self vote with dignity.

Remove Vote
Vote Monok Ochem

I would say that you should still go off wcs going forward because I am not the symp.

Are we going through another emo self-vote phase?

You could have at least waited till L-2.