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Mafia 131 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread

#381 User is offline   Lock 

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:49 PM

whoops, my bad. words, they are for reading kids!

excuse my unfounded out burst and GET OFF MY LAWN

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:51 PM

View PostLock, on 06 April 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

I want some clarification here from a figure of authority.

we have a claimed possession or something where it's stated that serc can not reveal who is making him post stuff.
then bang, serc is posting PMs which seem to do exactly that?

What is the official line here, was serc only unable to squeal on the particular day of this post control? is quoting of PMs suddenly allowed? I can't help but feel if all parties are telling the truth here then somebody is deliberately loophole seeking to game break. Or someone's full of shit.


Serc isn't posting, Ryll is.

I don't see why we should not lynch him

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:58 PM

View PostDemelain, on 06 April 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:

View PostLock, on 06 April 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

I want some clarification here from a figure of authority.

we have a claimed possession or something where it's stated that serc can not reveal who is making him post stuff.
then bang, serc is posting PMs which seem to do exactly that?

What is the official line here, was serc only unable to squeal on the particular day of this post control? is quoting of PMs suddenly allowed? I can't help but feel if all parties are telling the truth here then somebody is deliberately loophole seeking to game break. Or someone's full of shit.


Serc isn't posting, Ryll is.

I don't see why we should not lynch him


Because you have no idea who I am, while you know who Serc is?
Unless of course, you are Serc's team mate.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:02 PM

reread with my eyes actually paying attention this time, yes, Rhyll does seem to have just admitted he took control, and as such has basically dug his own grave, well played sir!

Will likely vote in this direction today.




one thing strikes me as odd (bear with me, I probably have missed something as I didn't really read any of the classes and races stuff, I just rolled what I always roll in BG)

But if Serc is saying Rhyll is elfy warlock, and serc said himself (under duress?) yesterday that he was elfy warlock. is serc saying Rhyl is elfy warlock because serc knows its an ability they COULD have chosen and as such, Rhyll had to be an elfy warlock (theres 5 of those I think, although I don't think its Telas' Heir, as that would have made yesterdays play, well, fucking stupid.
Could Serc have looked at the list and went, shit, I've a 1/3 chance of guessing right and just picked another warlock? Down this logic trail (which I admit could easily be nonsense based on my lack of understanding.) isn't just as likely that is Baltazhar or the heroine sniffer from the Fifth?


To play devils advocate so to speak.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:04 PM

my logic being that its a 1/3 chance that Rhyll is an heir, regardless actually now that I read it again ;)

so, uh yeah, unless we have a better option for nailing a leader...

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:08 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 06 April 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 06 April 2016 - 05:31 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

Honestly, do you think regular could get such an ability?

I found a way to avoid answering your questions, so I thought I'd play with you a bit, but later PS asked me not to use the crack in rules so here we are.

Is this quoting even allowed btw PS?

You know and I know that I could do it if I sacrificed everything else.


No, not even if you're elite and have winning team bonus, you'd still be short of AP or two.

Also if he has fake alt, it's vote counts and it had 5HPs.

You can get 3 AP through sacrificing abilities and have the 5 AP required to get the ability.


Except that ability cost 7AP. Our convo has 75 replies, I can tell you're not from last game's winning team. The logic has nothing to do with race, but with the cost of the ability.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:09 PM

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2016 - 06:08 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 06 April 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2016 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 06 April 2016 - 05:31 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

Honestly, do you think regular could get such an ability?

I found a way to avoid answering your questions, so I thought I'd play with you a bit, but later PS asked me not to use the crack in rules so here we are.

Is this quoting even allowed btw PS?

You know and I know that I could do it if I sacrificed everything else.


No, not even if you're elite and have winning team bonus, you'd still be short of AP or two.

Also if he has fake alt, it's vote counts and it had 5HPs.

You can get 3 AP through sacrificing abilities and have the 5 AP required to get the ability.


Except that ability cost 7AP. Our convo has 75 replies, I can tell you're not from last game's winning team. The logic has nothing to do with race, but with the cost of the ability.


I have the ability in my PM and it needs 5 AP...
I mean come on, that's not even a point of contention.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:27 PM

obligatory modkill avoidance post


Happy to see Togg gone. Annoying bastard. ;)

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 08:17 PM

It is Day 3. 44 hours and 47 minutes remaining

18 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Serc, Silanah, Ultama

9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Serc )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Silanah, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 06 April 2016 - 11:01 PM

Okay, read through what I've missed. I don't particularly agree with quoting PMs of any sort, but it clearly seems to be within the rules. So the question remains as to what faction Ryll is in. Serc is the obvious choice if we want to culture hunt, but Ryll is the more significant target. Perhaps a read up of Ryll is in order. I did suspect at the time when Serc named Togg and Ryll that Ryll was going to turn out to be their tormentor. That was well loopholed by Serc, I respect that!

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 01:59 AM

View PostFanderay, on 06 April 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

Color me mildly surprised. Culture hunt ahoy!


Fener voted away and interestingly chose Rhyll as their vote, which is where I speculate the remainder of Telas faction would like to push the train. I am up for a culture hunt.

Vote Fener

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:13 AM

fucking swamped with work...

based off my re-read i'd be down for either targets mentioned. Glad we got rid of a faction leader though.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:21 AM

I think we have a pretty good chance of getting somebody substantial with Ryll though

Vote Ryllandaras

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:39 AM

Ryll is the only person I know who is not in my team.

Vote Serc

Edit: and that Ryll is obviously meant to be Serc.

This post has been edited by Ryllandaras: 07 April 2016 - 02:39 AM


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 07:03 AM

Im breaking it down to basis maths.
With serc we've a 1/1 chance of hitting a bonehunter
Rhyll is 1/3 bb or 2/3 fifth.

Not a fan of those odds

vote serc

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 08:13 AM

View PostLock, on 07 April 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:

Im breaking it down to basis maths.
With serc we've a 1/1 chance of hitting a bonehunter
Rhyll is 1/3 bb or 2/3 fifth.

Not a fan of those odds

vote serc


That'd be in case you believed his word over my word. But honestly, do you think regular could have such an ability? If he was elite he couldn't neither, it costs over their limit.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 09:45 AM

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 April 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

Togg has been killed. He was Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein, the Dragonborn Monk.


How surprising isn't it?

Before you ask, Rhyll was the disembodied voice. This ability is only available if you're heir or higher and I'm pretty confident that fuckass is not my heir. That's how I concluded who is he.

vote Rhyll


This leaves us with

BB: Heir - Ilia Volyova the High Elf Warlock
BH: Heir - Rithrin the Drow Warlock
5th: Elite - Balthazar the Tiefling Warlock
5th: Regular - Heroine Sniffer the Wood Elf Warlock

I'm not going to totally disregard the chance that your own Heir did that to you - you do read in those PMs like you were being an arse (which I can fully appreciate there) and you say "our faction" so I think the odds are;

Getting another BH - 1/4
Getting a Heir 2/4

Serc is outed as a Regular with <=4HP, they are effectively out of this game - they can be picked off fairly easily with NKs alone - after all I'd prefer to be targeting a known faction that shooting in the dark

I have a deep dislike of abilities that interfere with my alt be it possession or compulsion. For this reason I will be voting Ryll unless something huge happens


Oh and speaking of possession, yesterdays code was

View PostAranatha, on 06 April 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

0211101001020010001202100010


Each 0 is a consonant, each 1 a vowel and each 2 an 'e' - the original sentence is "Serc is a snivelling piece of shit" :p

Todays is 413300004066000606003361066000006100006

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:41 AM

Fucking shite mobile service.

Had a lengthy post typed out, posted, basically fuck you says my phone.

The gist of it was:

The argument seemed to boil down to required ap, one says 5 one says 7.
We all seem to accept its a warlocky thing.

Atarahahal is pointing out the 4hp on serc, how convenient, we can just let them slip away someone's bound to pop him tonight.
It was 4 last night and no one popped him so shove your directing up your ass.

Er, something else along the lines of serc could easily have picked the highest ranking warlock not in his faction to make it more enticing as a vote candidate

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:43 AM

I too am wondering about the "our faction" line in the PMs quoted by Ryllandaras.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:51 AM

See, I've been thinking - being able to force someone to say whatever you want is already a powerful ability. And on top of that you can find out things about them, like who their leader is? I can only really fathom two ways that's realistic, either Serc told Ryll voluntarily, or they already knew because they have the same leader.

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