[Ultama]

That's a good point. It does seem "too" obvious, and so I'll hold my vote for now. It could very well be that Togg does not care about getting lynched. He could be some kind of familiar, pet, or conjured elemental, or any of that other stuff that came up last D&D game.

[Ultama]

Grasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.

There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.

Aranatha, on 31 March 2016 - 05:31 PM, said:

Ultama, on 31 March 2016 - 05:27 PM, said:

I've got a lot to catch up on. I'll

remove vote


for now. I got absolutely no reaction by poking Fener. Nerves of steel.

Going to read over the thread.

If you're in the Fener alt you know not to even think about reacting till you have at least 3 votes on you

Are you saying that this is specific to the Fener alt? Or to any alt?

I got Fener and Grasp linked here somehow -- too early to say for sure and definitely not a lot of information to go on this early in the game, but I can't shake the feeling something's up between these two. I'll look into it more later on tonight.

edit: typo earl to early

This post has been edited by Ultama: 31 March 2016 - 06:12 PM

[Ryllandaras]

Togg is weirding me out. I originally took a shot at him because his pretension to adding content annoyed me. (I don't care if you aren't adding anything, it's a faction game. Pretending to add stuff while being useless though ...)

His reaction though, it makes me really reluctant to Lynch him.

OTOH, Aranatha's post reeks of symping, so I want to Lynch his Lord.

This game is already a clusterfuck.

[Aranatha]

Ultama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Are you saying that this is specific to the Fener alt? Or to any alt?

Yes, Fener.

Blend, on 26 January 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 January 2016 - 04:16 PM, said:

A quick thought running through my head, "what if Shin is a killer and picked the people I picked to show majority?"

...and the paranaoia begins to set in...

Okay, so I'm gonna play the WIFOM game on Mess... I've watched him play many games in the last while as I've modded quite a few of the last 10-15 games, and he was one of my choices because he's a smart player, he's usually thinking a few steps ahead of everyone else, and is usually doing a good job of sussing out what others are thinking by what they're saying on thread. He's also very good at planting suspicions where there's no need for suspicions...

So, if we ascribe to the idea that the first lynched person became the real symp, and that his choices were then made the killers, immediately, that makes me want to cut Khell from my list of possible scum. Mess voting for him is too obvious. He's trying to make us look at Khell - it's an easy case to make. If Khell is still alive after a day or two of play, he's usually scum. It's almost as sacred a rule as the "Fener should always be lynched right away" rule is. So, Mess is trying to have us follow that trail instead of looking where we SHOULD be looking.

So then I try to dive deeper into Mess's psyche... So, he has created an obvious trail with Khell, but Mess plays 4-5 steps ahead, so next I'm thinking that he's thinking he has to make it look like he's working closely with at least one of his scum choices, while keeping himself distant from the other. This way, if one of them gets caught, the other has plausible deniability - "Look here, Mess was working closely with him, but he and I barely spoke on Day 1, so it can't be me, that doesn't fit the mold." This, to me, seems like something scummy Mess would do.

My conclusion - Tatts is one of Mess's choices, and the other is either myself, Shin, Venge or Charlie. Cutting myself out of that equation, my top 3 for second scum are Venge, then Shin, then Charlie.

But, I'm pretty confident that Tatts is likely one of the pair!

Khellendros, on 08 July 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

BalrogLord, on 07 July 2015 - 02:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 July 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:

Fun fact - Skintick and Aranatha had targeted Ultama with a kill - if he hadn't already been set up to jump into Fener, they would have taken him out. As it stands, ADL is now working out of the Fener alt, and BalrogLord is dead in his place!

ok so that explains a few things.

Well i made it to day 3 so as a rookie i feel its something of an accomplishment. So bubba dying is a trend here?

Anyways, if cookies are enabled you don't get auto locked out of an account.

So I was completely off in my guesses... Dam

So i don't suppose i could get some feedback on my first game's performance.

Considering you had Fener as your first alt, you did amazingly. "If in doubt, lynch Fener", used to be a common way of playing, although not so much anymore


I think you did well. Yeah, you may not have been on the right path, but you were contributing, making arguments, setting up links, all content which can help other good players when they come to compare your interactions with others after your death. The RI role is quite different from most other roles, it is the most team-centric, selfless role, the one you shouldn't be afraid to stick your neck out with to do the questioning and raising the attention of others. Part of the job is often to die so that your lynch train/timing of death can be examind for clues.

[Demelain]

Iam not going to be around for end of day probably. I see two options with Togg. Either he is an important player who has messed up or he is a red herring.

I think he should only be lynched if we have no other viable option

[Togg]

The way I see it, I could have gone down the route of being quiet on thread yet I decided to be involved. I think pointing out Grasp was a Ranger really kicked a hornets nest. I'm not in the fifth so that's why I'd take a stab at Grasp.

There is absolutely nothing in the ops that suggest pets. Yet Grasp mentions that ability and Monok? Backs him up. Since then the pressure on me has mounted for nonsensical reasons like Telas'.

@Aranatha ask PS how many actions you can take per cycle, you're suggesting I've used a day action more than once on this day already. That is ridiculous.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 19 hours and 19 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Serc, Silanah, Telas, Togg, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Serc )
1 Vote for Grasp ( Togg )
3 Votes for Togg ( Fener, Lock, Telas )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Silanah, Ultama

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 31 March 2016 - 08:59 PM

[Aranatha]

Togg, on 31 March 2016 - 07:18 PM, said:

The way I see it, I could have gone down the route of being quiet on thread yet I decided to be involved. I think pointing out Grasp was a Ranger really kicked a hornets nest. I'm not in the fifth so that's why I'd take a stab at Grasp.
ridiculous.

Pointing out Grasp is a Ranger? All you've done is point out Grasp has some knowledge of D&D. The OP here doesn't mention animal companions except for the druid. The assumption they can have them is inspired from D&D. I had made the same assumption.

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There is absolutely nothing in the ops that suggest pets. Yet Grasp mentions that ability and Monok? Backs him up. Since then the pressure on me has mounted for nonsensical reasons like Telas'.

Again with the D&D. Also animal companion =/= pet but I can see why you wouldn't get that.

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@Aranatha ask PS how many actions you can take per cycle, you're suggesting I've used a day action more than once on this day already. That is ridiculous.

I know how many actions I can take per cycle form the OP. Please list the Day actions I'm saying you've used more than once.

[Aranatha]

Aranatha, on 31 March 2016 - 05:36 PM, said:

Demelain, on 31 March 2016 - 05:30 PM, said:

Since the OP specifically forbids offsite coding and PS has emphasized this, alt takeover can happen. So I am wondering, that little light show with Serc, and the emphasis on "confusion", are we looking at an Alt takeover day action maybe?

Very good point. And the mini Gorilla could be the same sort of thing too. Both were around and the scenes were in close proximity

Although I don't see hijack as a Day action, in previous games it's been submitted in Day but actioned at EoD

Could someone take a look at Togg, MO and Serc posts before and after the scenes please - I'm out shortly and wont be able to whilst out.

The fact the scenes all came in after 24 hous had passed may be of some significance? Thoughts?

[Aranatha]

FWIW I'll be around a couple of hours before timeout so will be able to vote.

[Telas]

Path-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 19 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Serc, Silanah, Telas, Togg, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Serc )
1 Vote for Grasp ( Togg )
3 Votes for Togg ( Fener, Lock, Telas )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Silanah, Ultama

I guess we never sorted out why the clock jumped ahead. Must be a spell or ability?

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 31 March 2016 - 08:16 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 19 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Serc, Silanah, Telas, Togg, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Serc )
1 Vote for Grasp ( Togg )
3 Votes for Togg ( Fener, Lock, Telas )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Silanah, Ultama

I guess we never sorted out why the clock jumped ahead. Must be a spell or ability?

If the clocked jumped ahead, there was a glitch with Mafia Manager. No time related abilities in this game.


EDIT: I reviewed the time updates, there doesn't seem to be any mistakes...

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 31 March 2016 - 08:37 PM

[Telas]

Path-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

Telas, on 31 March 2016 - 08:16 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 31 March 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 19 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Serc, Silanah, Telas, Togg, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Serc )
1 Vote for Grasp ( Togg )
3 Votes for Togg ( Fener, Lock, Telas )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Silanah, Ultama

I guess we never sorted out why the clock jumped ahead. Must be a spell or ability?

If the clocked jumped ahead, there was a glitch with Mafia Manager. No time related abilities in this game.


EDIT: I reviewed the time updates, there doesn't seem to be any mistakes...

I was still thinking 48 hour days.

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 31 March 2016 - 08:40 PM, said:

I was still thinking 48 hour days.

Ah, therein lies the mistake - 36 hour days my friends!

[Lock]

it isn't 48 hour days??
I'm fairly sure OP said 48 hours days, with nights being as short as possible, or something along those lines.

Anywho, I'm only getting back to this now, and my what a mess of posts has appeared (would this be an appropriate collective noun, or should it be reserved for Iguanas?) And very little of it seeming to be useful.
I particularly enjoy Arantha's disjointed meanderings, multitudes of aimless short posts to look like an active tributary, whilst adding little or nothing, infact going so far as telling others to do their work for them, pointing fingers at a few names, in relation to the scenes PS has thrown out there for us to mull on. Times a pressing, fine and dandy, but a little outline of your suspicions or what to look for would be handy!

I've never been a fan of this playstyle, either low post or don't, firing out 3 posts in rapid succession with nothing but a large quote and a one liner isn't constructive, it clutters the thread, (possibly on purpose granted, but that then leads me to look back over today, who would Arantha be cluttering for, if not Togg? Hmm)

off to reread a bit,
Will be about for another........hour or so, will most likely be in the land of the many Z's at time out


ETA - cross post with PS, clearly I need the reread, if nothing else to catch momentous changes like this

This post has been edited by Lock: 31 March 2016 - 08:53 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Lock, on 31 March 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

it isn't 48 hour days??
I'm fairly sure OP said 48 hours days, with nights being as short as possible, or something along those lines.

Hrmmm... the OP DOES say 48 hour days... Well shit!

Okay, well, I shall have to update the time now to add the extra 12 hours!

Sorry for the confusion folks!

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 17 hours and 49 minutes remaining

20 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Fener, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Serc, Silanah, Telas, Togg, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Serc )
1 Vote for Grasp ( Togg )
3 Votes for Togg ( Fener, Lock, Telas )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Bek Okhan, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Hood's Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras, Silanah, Ultama

[Path-Shaper]

This means that I'll have to start the weekend freeze at the end of Day 1.

So, I will end Day 1 with the lynch, then freeze for the weekend, and resolve Night 1 over the weekend. Day 2 will start Monday morning!

[Grasp]

Ultama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

Grasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.

There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.

You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.

[Kadagar Fant]

Just read up. That was all quite interesting, though I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Togg's play and general demeanour doesn't strike me as a leader type, but that doesn't mean I'd have qualms about voting that way if that's where it goes.
As for Serc, I'm in the camp of possible takeover. Might be why Serc's so reluctant to talk about their experience.