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Mafia 131 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread

#141 User is offline   Kadagar Fant 

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 10:55 PM

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.


There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.


You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.



Yeah ok, but it isn't included in the role descriptions available to us. So either your suggestion is pure currently baseless speculation (based on the info available in the OP), or you are indeed speaking from a position of greater insight into the subject.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:04 PM

So I missed the start of game! Reading up now.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:13 PM

View PostKadagar Fant, on 31 March 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.


There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.


You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.



Yeah ok, but it isn't included in the role descriptions available to us. So either your suggestion is pure currently baseless speculation (based on the info available in the OP), or you are indeed speaking from a position of greater insight into the subject.


not sure its baseless speculation to assume that rangers might get animal companions. That seems a fairly strong possibility despite the brief description in the OP not explicitly saying it.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:19 PM

View PostKadagar Fant, on 31 March 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.


There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.


You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.



Yeah ok, but it isn't included in the role descriptions available to us. So either your suggestion is pure currently baseless speculation (based on the info available in the OP), or you are indeed speaking from a position of greater insight into the subject.


or option 3) its speculation based off a traditional understanding of how fantasy tropes work, which given the fact it's a DnD based game and how half the stuff reads word for word what you'd find in a dnd manual, isn't that big of a stretch. Ergo the statement is not baseless, nor is it a statement made from a position of real knowledge.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:21 PM

This is going to be a fun game!

First off, reading the thread as a whole one can see vote patterns happening already. Given that, I began looking for people participating in the voting, but with little reasoning behind their choices beyond expedience. Leaders need to do appear to be active* but not gather actual attention to their activity.

This post by Telas, put in between their other posts of more general conversation, stood out to me.



View PostTelas, on 31 March 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

There's been an awful lot of messages and alternate votes spinning up since Togg got to 3 votes and started to look like a viable train. I think it looks like we may have found a leader or at least an important role.



This might make it seem like I'm symping Togg, but I want to entertain alternatives before committing to a Togg vote. "we may have found a leader or important role". Why? Because it looks like a viable train? Hazy reasoning paving the way to an easy participation vote it looks like to me.

Vote Telas




*unless you're HO

#146 User is offline   Kadagar Fant 

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:24 PM

View PostMonok Ochem, on 31 March 2016 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostKadagar Fant, on 31 March 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.


There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.


You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.



Yeah ok, but it isn't included in the role descriptions available to us. So either your suggestion is pure currently baseless speculation (based on the info available in the OP), or you are indeed speaking from a position of greater insight into the subject.


not sure its baseless speculation to assume that rangers might get animal companions. That seems a fairly strong possibility despite the brief description in the OP not explicitly saying it.




Which is why I said it's baseless based on the current info available in the OP. We might equally assume dragonborn have little dragon hatchling companions - it's not in the OP but hey it's possible. Obviously I'm being facetious but hopefully you get my point.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:26 PM

A ranger can get an animal companion at fourth level. so I think it is possible for some one to have one in this game.

#148 User is offline   Kadagar Fant 

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:30 PM

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 11:19 PM, said:

View PostKadagar Fant, on 31 March 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.


There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.


You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.



Yeah ok, but it isn't included in the role descriptions available to us. So either your suggestion is pure currently baseless speculation (based on the info available in the OP), or you are indeed speaking from a position of greater insight into the subject.


or option 3) its speculation based off a traditional understanding of how fantasy tropes work, which given the fact it's a DnD based game and how half the stuff reads word for word what you'd find in a dnd manual, isn't that big of a stretch. Ergo the statement is not baseless, nor is it a statement made from a position of real knowledge.



Your DnD knowledge is greater than mine. I'll stick with what I can read in the OP and whatever else happens to happen in the game, and most likely continue to question if someone might have greater specific game-related knowledge when they raise new possibilities.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:43 PM

I have a hunch everyone's DnD knowledge is better than mine. I played WhiteWolf back in the day, but never DnD. And I didn't play in the other DnD mafia game either.

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 12:12 AM

View PostKadagar Fant, on 31 March 2016 - 11:24 PM, said:

View PostMonok Ochem, on 31 March 2016 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostKadagar Fant, on 31 March 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 31 March 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 31 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

and the bacon hunt is on is see.

wasssup people.


There was no bacon hunt. There was a single vote on Fener. Grasp didn't seem to worried about a 'hunt' in any case. It could be Grasp knows Fener is not on his team. Which would mean he has quite a bit of information about his team to begin with.

...Or he could be happy about something happening day 1. What's your deal Grasp? You leading? Be honest, let's not fuck around.


You want the truth? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kidding aside, i'd just reread the mafia championships thread and the rather well written fener introduction was fresh in my mind. Its not like we don't have a precedent for fener being lynched for inane reasons now do we.


@togg, my god how thick are you? you're telling me you've never played a fantasy game in your existence? Rangers frequently have animal pets of some kind. It's included in the general dnD lore as well as pretty much every fantasy mmo and who knows how many fantasy books. Im just making inferences based on the fact it's a game heavily influenced by DnD, which in turn is a staple in fantasy lore.



Yeah ok, but it isn't included in the role descriptions available to us. So either your suggestion is pure currently baseless speculation (based on the info available in the OP), or you are indeed speaking from a position of greater insight into the subject.


not sure its baseless speculation to assume that rangers might get animal companions. That seems a fairly strong possibility despite the brief description in the OP not explicitly saying it.




Which is why I said it's baseless based on the current info available in the OP. We might equally assume dragonborn have little dragon hatchling companions - it's not in the OP but hey it's possible. Obviously I'm being facetious but hopefully you get my point.


to a degree i get your point (granted dragonborn dont have that racial power ;)). I still think its a reasonable bit of speculation, but im sure well all be proven right or wrong at the end of the game.

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 12:32 AM

I'm happy with my joke vote on Togg being a real one. He's acting a bit stranger than anyone else.

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 02:43 AM

I believe I'll go with an easy and simple way to decide on today's vote. This is a faction game on the first day. We have very little information. Aranatha has had interactions with the most people, or enough for fitting the purpose.

If this were scum and town, our information would start with an identity on some poor soul who found his way to the gallows, and the tiny bits of interactions of that day phase, then finally the choice made by scum on who to kill.

Today, we have interactions, and some odd behaviors. My advice for starting a factions game is to lynch a loud player whose made conversations with many people.

I also feel as if one or two players tried to subtly keep our attention off Aranatha. However, it's probably nothing so not pointing it out further unless Aranatha's death proves interesting.

Assuming this occurs of course.

vote Aranatha

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 02:44 AM

So day did not end! Reading up now

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 02:58 AM

Usually those with a role tend to talk about it most. I speculated about extra alts looking at what was in the OP. Out of no where Grasp decides to talk about Rangers and pets. I've never played DnD unless it was a mafia game.

Monok backed him up then early on and has just done the same again.

Monok looks like he's symping Grasp. Coincidence?

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 04:03 AM

Well, I have to agree with Grasp that Aranatha and Togg seem to have dominated the thread so far with a lot of posts, but not too much actual information. Now while Togg has followed a in-your-face annoying style, Aranatha has tried to look like a contributor, which makes me very suspicious.

Also HP hasn't actually said anything yet.

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 04:07 AM

Has anybody noticed that Serc never responded to the Alt takeover theory? Its been around 11 hours since it was posted. Is he being deliberately kept inactive?

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 04:40 AM

View PostMockra, on 01 April 2016 - 04:07 AM, said:

Has anybody noticed that Serc never responded to the Alt takeover theory? Its been around 11 hours since it was posted. Is he being deliberately kept inactive?


No.

My alt hasn't been taken over.

View PostTogg, on 01 April 2016 - 02:58 AM, said:

Usually those with a role tend to talk about it most. I speculated about extra alts looking at what was in the OP. Out of no where Grasp decides to talk about Rangers and pets. I've never played DnD unless it was a mafia game.

Monok backed him up then early on and has just done the same again.

Monok looks like he's symping Grasp. Coincidence?



It is possible rangers can have animal companions. This post is completely off.

Contradiction between first and second sentence makes you look like you're the on with extra alts. Grasp clearly didn't decide to talk about rangers out of nowhere. Symping claim based on this discussion is such a crap.

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 05:06 AM

View PostSerc, on 01 April 2016 - 04:40 AM, said:

View PostMockra, on 01 April 2016 - 04:07 AM, said:

Has anybody noticed that Serc never responded to the Alt takeover theory? Its been around 11 hours since it was posted. Is he being deliberately kept inactive?


No.

My alt hasn't been taken over.

View PostTogg, on 01 April 2016 - 02:58 AM, said:

Usually those with a role tend to talk about it most. I speculated about extra alts looking at what was in the OP. Out of no where Grasp decides to talk about Rangers and pets. I've never played DnD unless it was a mafia game.

Monok backed him up then early on and has just done the same again.

Monok looks like he's symping Grasp. Coincidence?



It is possible rangers can have animal companions. This post is completely off.

Contradiction between first and second sentence makes you look like you're the on with extra alts. Grasp clearly didn't decide to talk about rangers out of nowhere. Symping claim based on this discussion is such a crap.

I'd agree that people who start talking about a specific roles intricacies generally have that role.*
I disagree that Rangers having animal companions is not common sense DnD knowldege. It is, I don't play DnD and I knew it.

Basically, I agree that Grasp or MO have at least one Ranger between them, but not because they displayed any insider knowledge of the role, but simply because they talked about it.


* I may or may not have been lynched for that reason once.

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 06:28 AM

View PostLock, on 31 March 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

I particularly enjoy Arantha's disjointed meanderings, multitudes of aimless short posts to look like an active tributary, whilst adding little or nothing, infact going so far as telling others to do their work for them, pointing fingers at a few names, in relation to the scenes PS has thrown out there for us to mull on. Times a pressing, fine and dandy, but a little outline of your suspicions or what to look for would be handy!


Glad you like it so much.

Being a babbling little brook that I am I'm honoured to be considered a tributary to the mighty Lock.

As for telling others to do their work for them, go re-read thread. MO raised potential Serc takeover. MO, having raised it, didn't follow through and actually look into it. I prompted to actually do something to confirm or deny his theory rather than just leave it hanging like he doesn't care at all. That's enough to get a raise out of me. I want to know what others think of it and I didn't have time to do it myself

Find an instance of me telling others to do my work for me. Quote it. Please. Or just cut out the bullshit your spreading my way

If I need to explain to you how to look for potential takeover of an alt then you're not really putting any effort into game are you

Also, I'm going to do multiple posts in a row. Deal with it

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 06:29 AM

View PostFener, on 01 April 2016 - 12:32 AM, said:

I'm happy with my joke vote on Togg being a real one. He's acting a bit stranger than anyone else.


In the absence of better cases I'll probably drop a vote here too

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