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Well for the whole card thing and how it affected the condors.... well quick ben was the one who actually hit the card and sent the condor plumetting, perhaps parans only role was to provide something through which quick could focus his power directly at the condor.
And as for drawing the tenescowri, the card only affected one of the condors so it wouldn't do much good against a horde of tenescowri one of them being knocked down.
As for paran wielding magic, not in the same sense as mages use magic, he'll probably develop his portal availability more but i don't think he willl have the ability to direct the power from the warrens as he does not have the natuaral ability necessary for that.
And i was always under the impression that by the end of MOI when he had accepted the position of master of the deck that he was an ascendant....
Oh incidentally i'm Imperial Historian ssing as how my names changed and all...
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 08:49 PM
Since Paran Master of Deck could he tap into the powers of warrens since each card is just a representation of it only to preserve the deck itself?
He got have some powers later on that will allow him to safeguard the deck?
As in major trump card power to bring a stand still to conflict between the houses and cripple god.
He got have some powers later on that will allow him to safeguard the deck?
As in major trump card power to bring a stand still to conflict between the houses and cripple god.
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Posted 02 August 2005 - 05:48 AM
I agree with Rich. Paran will stay a mortal as he will be a pivotal figure in destroying the CG and only mortals can kill gods.
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Posted 09 August 2005 - 04:48 PM
Paran ... I don't think he is a mortal anymore and for the fact about being soletaken I bet K'rul or tiam or mael wil give him something just like buke only then something stronger he could manage something like that.
magic wel he wil just use RAest and he wil develop his own kind of magic
magic wel he wil just use RAest and he wil develop his own kind of magic
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 04:58 PM
Don't forget he has an otataral sword - I wonder how that'll work with his burgeoning powers. Of course, with his power to make portals, I wonder if he hones that skill enough if he'll be able to just teleport instantly around the place during a fight - insanely cool possibilities!
PS Edit: wtf happened to my post count!?!!
PS Edit: wtf happened to my post count!?!!
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 07:38 PM
It's called a forum move. All the archieved posts were deleted.
On the ottatoral sword issue, Hood knows whats going to happen with that. If he is a mage then using the sword will become next to impossible. If he isn't then, well who knows. But then again, perhaps ascendants don't get affected by it...:erm:...
On the ottatoral sword issue, Hood knows whats going to happen with that. If he is a mage then using the sword will become next to impossible. If he isn't then, well who knows. But then again, perhaps ascendants don't get affected by it...:erm:...
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Paran a mage? when did that happen?
He is surely an ascendant - I think that's fairly certain from his ability to bless, as with the Bridgeburners and the GreySword captain.
He may have gained some abilities through being an ascendant - travelling where he wants appears to be one of them, blessing is another. It seems to me though, to be a long way removed from the abilities of someone like Quick Ben for instance... or Baruk or the Ceda.
It may be that the position of Master of the Deck requires different kinds of abilities/powers than others have - which kinda makes sense, because otherwise they would all be Masters of the Deck... *shrugs*
He is surely an ascendant - I think that's fairly certain from his ability to bless, as with the Bridgeburners and the GreySword captain.
He may have gained some abilities through being an ascendant - travelling where he wants appears to be one of them, blessing is another. It seems to me though, to be a long way removed from the abilities of someone like Quick Ben for instance... or Baruk or the Ceda.
It may be that the position of Master of the Deck requires different kinds of abilities/powers than others have - which kinda makes sense, because otherwise they would all be Masters of the Deck... *shrugs*
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 09:49 PM
and can all these idiots stop saying 'only a mortal can kill a god'
the correct line by k'rul at end of gotm was 'even a mortal can kill a god'
the correct line by k'rul at end of gotm was 'even a mortal can kill a god'
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Posted 10 September 2005 - 01:13 AM
ahhh how I love this part...
Who ownz ju!? Jeni-Rul! (I rather like that name...:eek3: )
Oh and Hetan I'm not saying he's a mage. I'm just wondering if he is one now or not. To be honest I don't know if Kell and Dancer were mages before they ascended but they now have the ability to wield magic, so :erm: just wondering wether Ganoes can wield magic too now. That wouldn't actually make him a mage, perhaps it just comes with ascendancy.
GotM MMPB - pg 222 said:
Perhaps. If so, then the Child Gods have made a grave error. After all," a ghastly smile seemed to come into his tone, "I will lose a battle. But I will ont die." K'rul turned away from the fire then. His voice drifted back to Kruppe. "Play on mortal. Every God falls at a mortal's hands. Such is the only end to immortality."
Who ownz ju!? Jeni-Rul! (I rather like that name...:eek3: )Oh and Hetan I'm not saying he's a mage. I'm just wondering if he is one now or not. To be honest I don't know if Kell and Dancer were mages before they ascended but they now have the ability to wield magic, so :erm: just wondering wether Ganoes can wield magic too now. That wouldn't actually make him a mage, perhaps it just comes with ascendancy.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 04:25 AM
Paran is mortal and utilizes the powers the Azath have given him.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 02:45 PM
:mad:Ascendant!!!!
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[quote name='Jen'isand Rul To be honest I don't know if Kell and Dancer were mages before they ascended but they now have the ability to wield magic' date=' so :erm: just wondering wether Ganoes can wield magic too now. That wouldn't actually make him a mage, perhaps it just comes with ascendancy.[/QUOTE']
Kellanved was a pretty powerful mage according to other sources... Dancer appears to have had supreme skills as an assassin, but nothing suggests he was anything else prior to ascending.
Kellanved was a pretty powerful mage according to other sources... Dancer appears to have had supreme skills as an assassin, but nothing suggests he was anything else prior to ascending.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 08:01 PM
um he was the founder of the talon, the talon, like the claw, were frequently mages as well as assasins, ie, like vorcan
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 10:58 PM
Were they? Baudin sure wasn't. Granted he was only the son of, but I've never read mention of the Talon (I'm gonna write it without the S cause I think it sounds cooler like that. The Claw get to be a singular plural, so should the Talon. Too long parenthasis...) as mages anywhere. Correct me.
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 06:24 AM
Sytkan said:
um he was the founder of the talon, the talon, like the claw, were frequently mages as well as assasins, ie, like vorcan
I would have thought that Dancer and Kellanved were more like Quick and Kalam.
A mage and assassin combo. It would make more sense also tells us why they trust each other so deeply.
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 04:07 PM
well i was just under the impression that the talon (which does sound cooler than talons btw :-) ) were the counterparts of the claw, and a lot of the claw are mage-assasins. i would have thought that dancer, as the top[ talon would have had some magic. even kalam, although we have no evidence that he uses a warren, even he knows more about magic than a non mage should
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:49 PM
doesnt he take on the shape of a hound when he fights raest and later when he fights the condor things or you can see both of them whilst hes fightin kinda like imposed over each other
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 11:37 PM
Also about the whole controlling of hounds of shadow mentioned earlier, I read on another post that the hounds of darkness are looking for someone to master them (though I can't recall the passage myself).
Could it be that Paran is the one meant to controll the hounds of darkness?
Also I beleive though Paran is capable of ascending, he has not, as of yet, done so. Though I also don't really give much credit to the thought that all his power is based on him being master of the deack, surely its the other way arround.
I think we're relitivly safe though on the original queston, as Paran doesn't usually allow anyone to have a hold over him.
Could it be that Paran is the one meant to controll the hounds of darkness?
Also I beleive though Paran is capable of ascending, he has not, as of yet, done so. Though I also don't really give much credit to the thought that all his power is based on him being master of the deack, surely its the other way arround.
I think we're relitivly safe though on the original queston, as Paran doesn't usually allow anyone to have a hold over him.
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Paran threatened, at one point, to call the hounds of Darkness to him.. So, if my belief that the Deragoth and the hounds of darkness are two different things is true, then he should still be able to do so...
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The Silent One said:
doesnt he take on the shape of a hound when he fights raest and later when he fights the condor things or you can see both of them whilst hes fightin kinda like imposed over each other
is that not because he gets some hound of shadow blood in gotm. i think its important when raest wants to dominate his soul, but when he tries he's like 'aaaargh the blood that cant be dominated' (or something like that
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