[Ultama]

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 07:52 PM, said:

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

 Grasp, on 23 November 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:

<snip>

anyhoo I am a bit suspicious of the interaction of Hanas and AF right of the bat. The quick voting for each other then the vote removals. AF hadn't even posted when Hanas threw out the out of the blue vote on AF only to have AF right there within two minutes. Like maybe they were talking off thread and decided to come on and vote each other. Paired scum? Maybe, maybe not. Just throwing it out there.

With not much time left today, I think this is the best we have on a day 1 case.

I'll vote Aparal for now, and check back later.

Oh he actually mentioned the elephant!

Wow. Only needed other people to give an opinion first

It's there

[Merrid]

Here's how I see it. Aparal was voted by Hanas straight off the bat.

Any player cannot do much against this. It's not Aparal's fault this happened.

Yet we are now focusing on Aparal. He has a good chance as any at being scum.

Why the vote from Hanas in the first place. A whim. Intentional? Game flow? We cannot know for sure. But..

But now we are focused on it. We cannot ignore the elephant in the room.

So you got some people voting that way because it's easy and it keep attention off themselves.

Big. Fat. Sheep.

[Merrid]

I wrote this earlier. Yet I haven't made a choice yet as I'll read up...


Rather than point out the obvious which is

I'd vote any if these two. Probably Hanas most though.

Hanas draws attention to Aparal by voting him and gets an Omgus in return. They then both remove.

Shadow votes Aparal more seriously and Hanas backs this up. So Hanas' "joke" vote at the start is now a serious one.

 Hanas, on 23 November 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

For being a low poster, always first in line, and just for the fuck of it:

Vote Aparal Forge




edit: bolding

 Aparal Forge, on 23 November 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

Third!

For being a naughty puppy

Vote Hanas

So.... are edits allowed?

 Hanas, on 23 November 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Remove Vote

 Aparal Forge, on 23 November 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Remove Vote

 Shadow, on 23 November 2015 - 10:23 PM, said:

Hmm, I see a possible pattern developing. Let's test it out.


Vote Aparal Forge

 Hanas, on 23 November 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

Sounds good to me. Short week.


Vote Aparal Forge

 Aparal Forge, on 24 November 2015 - 03:00 AM, said:

Oh dear. Votes already?

OMGUS anybody?

So Hanas joke vote turns serious. That speaks of someone who doesn't give a shit if anyone is lynched. How could he know Aparal is scum straight off the bat. Basically this is a shot in the dark.

My problem with Kadagar stems from...

[Fanderay]

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

Here's how I see it. Aparal was voted by Hanas straight off the bat.

Any player cannot do much against this. It's not Aparal's fault this happened.

Yet we are now focusing on Aparal. He has a good chance as any at being scum.

Why the vote from Hanas in the first place. A whim. Intentional? Game flow? We cannot know for sure. But..

But now we are focused on it. We cannot ignore the elephant in the room.

So you got some people voting that way because it's easy and it keep attention off themselves.

Big. Fat. Sheep.

I'm currently inclined to vote for the elephant however I do note that AF was very jumpy with their vote. We've still got 6 or 8 hours so don't see a need to rush in

[Fanderay]

 Ultama, on 24 November 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 07:52 PM, said:

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

 Grasp, on 23 November 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:

<snip>

anyhoo I am a bit suspicious of the interaction of Hanas and AF right of the bat. The quick voting for each other then the vote removals. AF hadn't even posted when Hanas threw out the out of the blue vote on AF only to have AF right there within two minutes. Like maybe they were talking off thread and decided to come on and vote each other. Paired scum? Maybe, maybe not. Just throwing it out there.

With not much time left today, I think this is the best we have on a day 1 case.

I'll vote Aparal for now, and check back later.

Oh he actually mentioned the elephant!

Wow. Only needed other people to give an opinion first

It's there

Rep is yours after the game.

[Merrid]

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Didn't realize the game started... Let me read up.

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:43 AM, said:

Looks like I didn't miss anything.

Steak sauce is for amateurs. What you want is butter on top of your steak.

Start of page 2 and he has no opinion on any of that.

He had a delayed entrance to the game so had to read up but come away with nothing. Yet later votes that way as the strongest option on day one.

[Merrid]

 Ultama, on 24 November 2015 - 03:05 PM, said:

 Korlat, on 24 November 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Didn't realize the game started... Let me read up.

Likewise. Oh well, here now. Seems everyone is happy to put the info that could be put in one post into five. Because, you know, post count is important.

Nothing unusual with that

But you seem to be trying to look like you're adding some content though you're certainly not.

Same issue I have with Kadagar rests on Korlat aswel.

[Merrid]

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

When is fake signaling or joke voting each other advantageous for both parties concerned? And off thread coms to discuss this action beforehand? Logic fail. Seems like you are digging for a rational rationale and coming up with cat shit.

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

Looking for someone overdoing the townie angle and using poor mechanistic speculation to buff up their street cred. You fit the bill.

Voting for someone before they are on thread stands out. Roled players stereotypically are more careful. More logical, AF is at the start of the player list.

Which is basically why I agree with Denesmet. He says it a lot better and I'd the best case out there at present.

remove vote

Vote grasp

[Merrid]

Is* is the best case.

[Shadow]

 Fanderay, on 24 November 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

Here's how I see it. Aparal was voted by Hanas straight off the bat.

Any player cannot do much against this. It's not Aparal's fault this happened.

Yet we are now focusing on Aparal. He has a good chance as any at being scum.

Why the vote from Hanas in the first place. A whim. Intentional? Game flow? We cannot know for sure. But..

But now we are focused on it. We cannot ignore the elephant in the room.

So you got some people voting that way because it's easy and it keep attention off themselves.

Big. Fat. Sheep.

I'm currently inclined to vote for the elephant however I do note that AF was very jumpy with their vote. We've still got 6 or 8 hours so don't see a need to rush in

Jumpy? Not really in my opinion. They voted for whoever voted for them, and removed as soon as they were removed from. Seemed a quite deliberate strategy. To poke fun? To annoy? To make a point? Something else? I don't know, and Aparal has decided not to talk about it.

[Shadow]

@ Merrid: I agree with you that Hanas jumping right back on Aparal after I voted for them seems a strange thing to do.

[Shadow]

Remove Vote


I'll be travelling for a few hours, but will lay down a vote when I get home.

[Hanas]

 Hanas, on 23 November 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

For being a low poster, always first in line, and just for the fuck of it:

Vote Aparal Forge




edit: bolding

 Hanas, on 23 November 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

Sounds good to me. Short week.


Vote Aparal Forge

I jumped back on him because it's a short week and day one lynches are always crapshoots.

[Grasp]

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:14 PM, said:

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

When is fake signaling or joke voting each other advantageous for both parties concerned? And off thread coms to discuss this action beforehand? Logic fail. Seems like you are digging for a rational rationale and coming up with cat shit.

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

Looking for someone overdoing the townie angle and using poor mechanistic speculation to buff up their street cred. You fit the bill.

Voting for someone before they are on thread stands out. Roled players stereotypically are more careful. More logical, AF is at the start of the player list.

Which is basically why I agree with Denesmet. He says it a lot better and I'd the best case out there at present.

remove vote

Vote grasp

I think this sums up how I feel about you and Telas for that matter

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[Olar Ethil]

hey, very sorry, been really sick all weekend. I will try to catch up asap and hopefully I'm on the tail end of this sleeping all day and wishing I was dead bsns.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 4 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Kadagar Fant, Grasp, Ultama )
4 Votes for Grasp ( Denesmet, Telas, Hanas, Merrid )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Fanderay, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil, Shadow

[Kadagar Fant]

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Didn't realize the game started... Let me read up.

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:43 AM, said:

Looks like I didn't miss anything.

Steak sauce is for amateurs. What you want is butter on top of your steak.

Start of page 2 and he has no opinion on any of that.

He had a delayed entrance to the game so had to read up but come away with nothing. Yet later votes that way as the strongest option on day one.

OMGUS
Did you see more in that first few pages than I did? I saw lots of voting, remove votes and talks about steak.

[Merrid]

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 09:21 PM, said:

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Didn't realize the game started... Let me read up.

 Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:43 AM, said:

Looks like I didn't miss anything.

Steak sauce is for amateurs. What you want is butter on top of your steak.

Start of page 2 and he has no opinion on any of that.

He had a delayed entrance to the game so had to read up but come away with nothing. Yet later votes that way as the strongest option on day one.

OMGUS
Did you see more in that first few pages than I did? I saw lots of voting, remove votes and talks about steak.

You saw nothing in page one.

Yet you're voting for Aparal.

[Ultama]

 Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:14 PM, said:

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

When is fake signaling or joke voting each other advantageous for both parties concerned? And off thread coms to discuss this action beforehand? Logic fail. Seems like you are digging for a rational rationale and coming up with cat shit.

 Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

Looking for someone overdoing the townie angle and using poor mechanistic speculation to buff up their street cred. You fit the bill.

Voting for someone before they are on thread stands out. Roled players stereotypically are more careful. More logical, AF is at the start of the player list.

Which is basically why I agree with Denesmet. He says it a lot better and I'd the best case out there at present.

remove vote

Vote grasp

Yeah Grasp's theory surely has some holes...or black holes....


But he's not saying "hey, this is how it is, theyre scum, lynch them now!", he just threw it out as an idea, not real case

Den is making a mountain out of a molehill, and he is too eager into it

[Ultama]

I'm willing to vote Hanas, but I'm going to be off in few minutes so unless votes will go that direction my vote stays