[Denesmet]

Okay, if that is all it is.

Remove Vote
Vote AF

Hanas is a bang up symp then....

[Aparal Forge]

Grasps paired scum theory makes no sense

Vote Grasp

[Kadagar Fant]

Only about an hour left and only 2 anons...

[Lock]

I am going to bed and trying to quickly read up. Sucks for grasp to claim a role in day 1. If scum doesn't kill him he will need to be looked at tomorrow.

We need to lynch. I would also rather a Hana's lynch but there is no way a train is going to build to that.

vote aparal forge

[Denesmet]

Um, like hammer guys. Like OMG.

[Denesmet]

4 min

[Telas]

Remove vote
Vote af

[Denesmet]

2 min

[Telas]

Not sure if got back in time.

[Denesmet]

Took your time.

[Denesmet]

Yes, that is a lynch.

[Kadagar Fant]

Did PS forget about us?

[Korlat]

Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

Ultama, on 24 November 2015 - 03:05 PM, said:

Korlat, on 24 November 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Didn't realize the game started... Let me read up.

Likewise. Oh well, here now. Seems everyone is happy to put the info that could be put in one post into five. Because, you know, post count is important.

Nothing unusual with that

But you seem to be trying to look like you're adding some content though you're certainly not.

Same issue I have with Kadagar rests on Korlat aswel.

Yeah, I ahve way less time on my hands than I expected. The curse of a busy job, and yes, I didn't provide any content. You want me to post my thoughts?
There could be plenty of reasons for the AF-Hanas spat, which started with Hanas having a hard-on for AF and now AF got lynched.... and some of these possible reasons might not even game-related.

Basically what we did though, is run yet again with a signalling case like its amateur hour. I might have to swallow my foot here if AF does come up as scum, but I completely agree with Demesnet when he states

Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

The spat resulting from that is extremely interesting. Denesmet has the better of Grasp in a battle of one-liners, and the participation of others on the sidelines is pretty telling. KF tries returning the focus away from Grasp back onto AF with nary a mention for the debate happening under his eyes could be seen as defusing. Ultama saying Demesnet is 'too eager' definitely is.
Grasp comes back at Telas and Merrid, calling them Denesmet's sheep, after which Ultama (him again) comes up with this gem:

Ultama, on 24 November 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:14 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

When is fake signaling or joke voting each other advantageous for both parties concerned? And off thread coms to discuss this action beforehand? Logic fail. Seems like you are digging for a rational rationale and coming up with cat shit.

Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

Looking for someone overdoing the townie angle and using poor mechanistic speculation to buff up their street cred. You fit the bill.

Voting for someone before they are on thread stands out. Roled players stereotypically are more careful. More logical, AF is at the start of the player list.

Which is basically why I agree with Denesmet. He says it a lot better and I'd the best case out there at present.

remove vote

Vote grasp

Yeah Grasp's theory surely has some holes...or black holes....


But he's not saying "hey, this is how it is, theyre scum, lynch them now!", he just threw it out as an idea, not real case

Den is making a mountain out of a molehill, and he is too eager into it

Ultama then responds by saying he is willing to lynch Hanas, implicating he is against a Grasp lynch. Why?
Then two lines underneath, KF mentions that AF is the best case and calls Denesmet a symp for attacking Grasp, and then we get this:

Grasp, on 24 November 2015 - 11:57 PM, said:

It will cost the town a roled player.

Dramatic. As Denesmet concludes, if the reveal is believed by scum to be true, Grasp ought to die. If he doesn't, then what? Is he scum? Or will he opt for the age old Wifom defense - "they want you guys to waste a lynch on me!" .... which is a bogus argument, considering that if Grasp is roled and doesn't reveal a role, he could be a finder, and which scum lets a finder run around unchecked?

And finally:

Kadagar Fant, on 25 November 2015 - 01:59 AM, said:

Back home and will try to be around till timeout. Denesmet, what is with the Hanas vote? You've been trying to get everyone to vote anywhere but AF, but I missed your case there.

Concluding, KF & Ultama have been very defensive of Grasp before he claimed roled townie, and tried what they could to brand the person attacking Grasp to be overly aggressive and single minded. Even after Demesnet removed, we see the same people attack.

I think there's plenty of smoke, and probably a fire.

[Blend]

Sorry guys, ended up going to bed earlier than expected last night!

Gimme a couple seconds and I'll resolve the lynch

[Path-Shaper]

As of this post...

Telas, on 25 November 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

Remove vote
Vote af

It is Day 1. 2 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Kadagar Fant, Grasp, Ultama, Shadow, Denesmet, Lock, Telas )
4 Votes for Grasp ( Telas, Hanas, Merrid, Aparal Forge )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Fanderay, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil


Aparal Forge has been lynched, he was Andorion and a Roleless Innocent, a Frite.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 25 November 2015 - 02:47 PM

[Path-Shaper]

During the night, the steaks and packets of ketchup roam the dinner plate, out for some blood. Most of the Frites keep to their side of the dish, but two brave the middle of the dinner plate.

When daylight comes, there are two dead frites, one of them covered in ketchup, the other rips to shreds, dripping in steak juice.

Grasp has been killed. He was Bubba and a Packet of Ketchup.
Hanas has been killed. He was Gnaw and a Roleless Innocent, a Frite.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

[Merrid]

Gnaw loves those blind votes.

[Shadow]

And now what would you like to say now, Korlat, based on the CF? As it appears to me that you've done something either idiotic or very deliberate by not waiting for the CF before speaking.

[Korlat]

Path-Shaper, on 25 November 2015 - 02:47 PM, said:

During the night, the steaks and packets of ketchup roam the dinner plate, out for some blood. Most of the Frites keep to their side of the dish, but two brave the middle of the dinner plate.

When daylight comes, there are two dead frites, one of them covered in ketchup, the other rips to shreds, dripping in steak juice.

Grasp has been killed. He was Bubba and a Packet of Ketchup.
Hanas has been killed. He was Gnaw and a Roleless Innocent, a Frite.

Well, that shoe I mentioned is now firmly lodged in my mouth.