[Korlat]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

We don't know how many cartel and mafia there are. What if there are 3 of each, 6 cops, 1 Fener 1 survivor 1 SK.

If we continued to lynch 6 scum then the fucking SK would win you numb nut. As he'd have had 6 nights.

That's why I'm concerned. You fail to think outside the frigging box.

You are a fucking joke.

Do you actually read what you write? Could stating that I do not think outside the box be any more laden with hypocrisy, coming from someone who has said NOTHING but 'SK SK SK' the whole game?

If the SK 'moves on' after he gets his fill of kills, as the OP suggests, then no, we do not necessarily lose. That's the point of multiple VCs. Just because someone else completes their doesn't always mean that your side can't still complete theirs (though of course some will be mutually exclusive), *especially* if we're talking about the VCs of an independent. If the Survivor wins the game, do you think everyone else loses?


It is clear that you are either the serial killer or your VC is specifically to eliminate the serial killer. Which is also presumably why you never even bothered to read the OP properly, because either way you think it all revolves around you. Well, it's either that, or you're just acting moronic. 50/50 at the moment I guess.

[Shadow]

ok guys Im here

Emur seem more than enough legit with his excitement

vote Omtose


regarding my vote on Silanah, advocating no-lynch with Sk and recruiter(s) around is suspicious. Yeah, it was kinda noobish, but it could just be noob Sk/recruiter as well, or not-noob trying to hide behind being noob for example. Just wanted to put some pressure.

And what are you on Ultama? Is it you who has all the heroin?

[Korlat]

Silanah, on 11 November 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

Will have to do a more in depth re-read when i get back, still bleary eyed. When someone is in jail they can't do any NAs as well. So given we got a find on him as a mafioso so im all for leaving him rot and trying to find SK. We've taken two scum out of the game already.

I could be mistaken but the flavour text mentions that he kidnaps someone day 1. The PS update said nothing happened minus some shootings, my question is, does "nothing happening" include no one being kidnapped day 1? If we can have everyone check in we can confirm this.

Anyone can bail Omtose out right? Devil's advocate: What's to stop someone waiting till L-1 on someone else, bailing Omtose, then hammering? And then Omtose is free to do scummy things in the night because we let them live, because it was 'safe'.

Yes, clearly then we'd have Omtose and their bailer in our lynch sights - but nevertheless who knows what they could get up to at night right? I guess I'm a rather safe than sorry kinda guy.

[Togg]

Just got caught up.. Good catch on Karosis! That gives us some info on anyone that actively tried to prevent the lynch.

I'll go with Emur's catch

vote Omtose

[Shadow]

Path-Shaper, on 10 November 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:

Omtose has been arrested, is in jail, and cannot fully participate in the game until bailed out.

And this. who knows what theyre allowed to do there...

[Silanah]

Shadow, on 11 November 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 November 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:

Omtose has been arrested, is in jail, and cannot fully participate in the game until bailed out.

And this. who knows what theyre allowed to do there...

conjugal visits?

[Ultama]

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

We don't know how many cartel and mafia there are. What if there are 3 of each, 6 cops, 1 Fener 1 survivor 1 SK.

If we continued to lynch 6 scum then the fucking SK would win you numb nut. As he'd have had 6 nights.

That's why I'm concerned. You fail to think outside the frigging box.

You are a fucking joke.

Do you actually read what you write? Could stating that I do not think outside the box be any more laden with hypocrisy, coming from someone who has said NOTHING but 'SK SK SK' the whole game?

If the SK 'moves on' after he gets his fill of kills, as the OP suggests, then no, we do not necessarily lose. That's the point of multiple VCs. Just because someone else completes their doesn't always mean that your side can't still complete theirs (though of course some will be mutually exclusive), *especially* if we're talking about the VCs of an independent. If the Survivor wins the game, do you think everyone else loses?


It is clear that you are either the serial killer or your VC is specifically to eliminate the serial killer. Which is also presumably why you never even bothered to read the OP properly, because either way you think it all revolves around you. Well, it's either that, or you're just acting moronic. 50/50 at the moment I guess.

The whole game I think not sonny jim. Maybe my mentioning it is rattling your chains or something. You say if he moves on after he gets his kills...

Quote

There are multiple VCs. There is the possibility of players leaving the game upon completion of a VC.

Possibility but not a certainty. He could get his VC and stick around to murder us some more. Not only that you're playing it off like 4 kills doesn't matter to you. "Oh it's ok he will leave after 4 kills" no its fucking not ok that he can get to kill 4 of us. What are you smoking?
You evidently don't care if the SK reaches his VC which proves that you're not a cop.

If you're not a cop then you're scum or the SK. it's as simple as that fuck head.

[Silanah]

So shadows been rubbing me kinda weird, he hasn't exactly said a lot, hasn't really contributed much information. Strikes me as someone trying to blend in while not putting much out. We have over 200 replies to dig through, there's lots to be said about anything yet as of now, this is the sum of his posts.

Briefly engaging with karo about feners lynchability.

Shadow, on 09 November 2015 - 10:10 PM, said:

Karosis, on 09 November 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Also whoever voted Fener - I wonder if we can lynch him? If he's listed as a living player but not as one who can vote. I mean yeah ok joke votes on Fener are pretty normal but it raised the question in my mind, especially since he's now posting like an NPC would.

I think we can, it would be a reason why is he listed as a living player

Meta reference that doesn't actually add anything. Does reference my earlier choice of words

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 03:37 PM, said:

With Fener around there still is a chance for Gnaw to make another "colossal fuck-up"

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

With SK that probably only has to be here for 8 nights to win, we really have to lynch.

Saying opposite makes you quite suspicious, which is enough for me in this phase to vote

Vote Silanah

Voting for me, very quickly, making a comment about being suspicious but not really expanding on it. As well as the fact iirc, it was still early in the day. This was before there was a long conversation about the virtues of lynching regardless of outcome. You could have easily contributed to the convo earlier.

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

You do realise what have you written?

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Are you blind?

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!
Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!
Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 November 2015 - 07:50 PM, said:

Denul, on 10 November 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

So, you're saying that Silanah's no-lynch suggestion was just a noob-action, but that actual backing of such an idea while staying low is more suspicious?

What makes you think backing it up is any less noobish than suggesting it in the first place?

Yep. I found it more suspicious.

I see what your saying and it is a good point. I guess my thinking was that they backed them when the pressure was on Silanah over that comment and that seemed a less noobish thing to do. That a noob would of stayed out of the argument not actively joined it.

It's also less noobish because Emur apparently has some experience - hence the Venge part.

Except, my guess is Emur was responding to the typo, but didn't read preceding Tholen's posts, not realising it's typo.

I would also like to hear from Korlat before the day ends

pointing out the obvious typo (which was amusing at the time)

Shadow, on 11 November 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

ok guys Im here

Emur seem more than enough legit with his excitement

vote Omtose


regarding my vote on Silanah, advocating no-lynch with Sk and recruiter(s) around is suspicious. Yeah, it was kinda noobish, but it could just be noob Sk/recruiter as well, or not-noob trying to hide behind being noob for example. Just wanted to put some pressure.

And what are you on Ultama? Is it you who has all the heroin?

And then bam, next day first post. There was a giant shitshow that happened yesterday Yet he has no comment on it, and just joins a bandwagon forming onto omtose.

vote shadow

if nothing else we can vote omtose in the interest of avoiding late night shenanigans, however the day is still young and there's still an SK, a recruiter and unknown amount of scum.

[Korlat]

No, jackass, it's not that I don't care. If I didn't care then I wouldn't even be responding to your drooling babble.

I certainly do wish to get rid of the SK ( 1. they're a menace to town as well as to scum, so dangerous to leave them around, and 2. It's annoying when independents get to crow about their solo victories).

BUT. We have a great lead on what seems like a scum right now, whilst in the meantime as far as I'm aware we have no leads on the SK, and I get the feeling that you're trying to move us away from that good lead. So that's what I'm responding to.

When you actually have something concrete on the SK, I'll be all ears Ultama.

[Korlat]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

Possibility but not a certainty. He could get his VC and stick around to murder us some more. Not only that you're playing it off like 4 kills doesn't matter to you. "Oh it's ok he will leave after 4 kills" no its fucking not ok that he can get to kill 4 of us. What are you smoking?
You evidently don't care if the SK reaches his VC which proves that you're not a cop.

Also, regarding the above. What's more dangerous, one guy who kills once every other night, or an unknown number of mafia and cartel scum (probably minimum two with NK abilities, though we may have already got one with Karosis, but who knows how their abilities work) who could more likely than not potentially kill EVERY night?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Silanah]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

We don't know how many cartel and mafia there are. What if there are 3 of each, 6 cops, 1 Fener 1 survivor 1 SK.

If we continued to lynch 6 scum then the fucking SK would win you numb nut. As he'd have had 6 nights.

That's why I'm concerned. You fail to think outside the frigging box.

You are a fucking joke.

Do you actually read what you write? Could stating that I do not think outside the box be any more laden with hypocrisy, coming from someone who has said NOTHING but 'SK SK SK' the whole game?

If the SK 'moves on' after he gets his fill of kills, as the OP suggests, then no, we do not necessarily lose. That's the point of multiple VCs. Just because someone else completes their doesn't always mean that your side can't still complete theirs (though of course some will be mutually exclusive), *especially* if we're talking about the VCs of an independent. If the Survivor wins the game, do you think everyone else loses?


It is clear that you are either the serial killer or your VC is specifically to eliminate the serial killer. Which is also presumably why you never even bothered to read the OP properly, because either way you think it all revolves around you. Well, it's either that, or you're just acting moronic. 50/50 at the moment I guess.

The whole game I think not sonny jim. Maybe my mentioning it is rattling your chains or something. You say if he moves on after he gets his kills...

Quote

There are multiple VCs. There is the possibility of players leaving the game upon completion of a VC.

Possibility but not a certainty. He could get his VC and stick around to murder us some more. Not only that you're playing it off like 4 kills doesn't matter to you. "Oh it's ok he will leave after 4 kills" no its fucking not ok that he can get to kill 4 of us. What are you smoking?
You evidently don't care if the SK reaches his VC which proves that you're not a cop.

If you're not a cop then you're scum or the SK. it's as simple as that fuck head.

Just to tack something onto this. One of the new abilities was called "retire". Speculation on my part but maybe there's an option to continue playing the game, help out your faction even though your VC was met. As in one can choose to exit the game. The post bail ability was unlocked due to a condition being met (an arrest). This could be it. Unless someone already has this ability as part of their PM.

[Togg]

Silanah, on 11 November 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

So shadows been rubbing me kinda weird, he hasn't exactly said a lot, hasn't really contributed much information. Strikes me as someone trying to blend in while not putting much out. We have over 200 replies to dig through, there's lots to be said about anything yet as of now, this is the sum of his posts.

Briefly engaging with karo about feners lynchability.

Shadow, on 09 November 2015 - 10:10 PM, said:

Karosis, on 09 November 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Also whoever voted Fener - I wonder if we can lynch him? If he's listed as a living player but not as one who can vote. I mean yeah ok joke votes on Fener are pretty normal but it raised the question in my mind, especially since he's now posting like an NPC would.

I think we can, it would be a reason why is he listed as a living player

Meta reference that doesn't actually add anything. Does reference my earlier choice of words

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 03:37 PM, said:

With Fener around there still is a chance for Gnaw to make another "colossal fuck-up"

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

With SK that probably only has to be here for 8 nights to win, we really have to lynch.

Saying opposite makes you quite suspicious, which is enough for me in this phase to vote

Vote Silanah

Voting for me, very quickly, making a comment about being suspicious but not really expanding on it. As well as the fact iirc, it was still early in the day. This was before there was a long conversation about the virtues of lynching regardless of outcome. You could have easily contributed to the convo earlier.

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

You do realise what have you written?

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Are you blind?

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!
Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!
Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM!

Shadow, on 10 November 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

Eloth, on 10 November 2015 - 07:50 PM, said:

Denul, on 10 November 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

So, you're saying that Silanah's no-lynch suggestion was just a noob-action, but that actual backing of such an idea while staying low is more suspicious?

What makes you think backing it up is any less noobish than suggesting it in the first place?

Yep. I found it more suspicious.

I see what your saying and it is a good point. I guess my thinking was that they backed them when the pressure was on Silanah over that comment and that seemed a less noobish thing to do. That a noob would of stayed out of the argument not actively joined it.

It's also less noobish because Emur apparently has some experience - hence the Venge part.

Except, my guess is Emur was responding to the typo, but didn't read preceding Tholen's posts, not realising it's typo.

I would also like to hear from Korlat before the day ends

pointing out the obvious typo (which was amusing at the time)

Shadow, on 11 November 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

ok guys Im here

Emur seem more than enough legit with his excitement

vote Omtose


regarding my vote on Silanah, advocating no-lynch with Sk and recruiter(s) around is suspicious. Yeah, it was kinda noobish, but it could just be noob Sk/recruiter as well, or not-noob trying to hide behind being noob for example. Just wanted to put some pressure.

And what are you on Ultama? Is it you who has all the heroin?

And then bam, next day first post. There was a giant shitshow that happened yesterday Yet he has no comment on it, and just joins a bandwagon forming onto omtose.

vote shadow

if nothing else we can vote omtose in the interest of avoiding late night shenanigans, however the day is still young and there's still an SK, a recruiter and unknown amount of scum.

I agree. Shadow is on my list as possible scum too. I think we should lynch known scum today first though.

[Ultama]

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

Possibility but not a certainty. He could get his VC and stick around to murder us some more. Not only that you're playing it off like 4 kills doesn't matter to you. "Oh it's ok he will leave after 4 kills" no its fucking not ok that he can get to kill 4 of us. What are you smoking?
You evidently don't care if the SK reaches his VC which proves that you're not a cop.

Also, regarding the above. What's more dangerous, one guy who kills once every other night, or an unknown number of mafia and cartel scum (probably minimum two with NK abilities, though we may have already got one with Karosis, but who knows how their abilities work) who could more likely than not potentially kill EVERY night?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Your right the multiple deaths night one had me confused. Maybe Omtose being arrested prevented that.

Are you going to crucify Silanah now for suggesting Shadow?

[Shadow]

@ Silanah

Yeah, we certainly have a lot of posts here. Had a busy day today and overslept, Im tired all day. Thats not the best state to readup 16 hours, including your last-second reveal and turning everything over.

If you really want me to read it through once more and comment on stuff, I'll do it. Maybe then you will understand it wont add much of useful content.

[Korlat]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:20 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

Possibility but not a certainty. He could get his VC and stick around to murder us some more. Not only that you're playing it off like 4 kills doesn't matter to you. "Oh it's ok he will leave after 4 kills" no its fucking not ok that he can get to kill 4 of us. What are you smoking?
You evidently don't care if the SK reaches his VC which proves that you're not a cop.

Also, regarding the above. What's more dangerous, one guy who kills once every other night, or an unknown number of mafia and cartel scum (probably minimum two with NK abilities, though we may have already got one with Karosis, but who knows how their abilities work) who could more likely than not potentially kill EVERY night?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Your right the multiple deaths night one had me confused. Maybe Omtose being arrested prevented that.

Are you going to crucify Silanah now for suggesting Shadow?

Right now, no, because they at least are being backed up by their ability to arrest players. On top of that, they're actually coming out with substantive evidence to back up their suspicions. But IF Omtose turns out not to be mafia, I will first crucify Emurlahn, and then I'll push on Silanah for the possibility of trying to steer away from Omtose. But if Omtose is mafia, I am more than happy to follow their lead on Shadow next, unless something even more substantial comes up in the meantime.

[Path-Shaper]

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

Edit: put in a missing parenthesis. Yeah, I edited. Suck it.

Really? Post in pictures for the next 4 hours.

[Silanah]

Shadow, on 11 November 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

@ Silanah

Yeah, we certainly have a lot of posts here. Had a busy day today and overslept, Im tired all day. Thats not the best state to readup 16 hours, including your last-second reveal and turning everything over.

If you really want me to read it through once more and comment on stuff, I'll do it. Maybe then you will understand it wont add much of useful content.

https://i.ytimg.com/...xresdefault.jpg

[Silanah]

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

Edit: put in a missing parenthesis. Yeah, I edited. Suck it.

Really? Post in pictures for the next 4 hours.

i love you vengeance.

[Korlat]

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

Edit: put in a missing parenthesis. Yeah, I edited. Suck it.

Really? Post in pictures for the next 4 hours.

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[Ultama]

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:20 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 November 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

Possibility but not a certainty. He could get his VC and stick around to murder us some more. Not only that you're playing it off like 4 kills doesn't matter to you. "Oh it's ok he will leave after 4 kills" no its fucking not ok that he can get to kill 4 of us. What are you smoking?
You evidently don't care if the SK reaches his VC which proves that you're not a cop.

Also, regarding the above. What's more dangerous, one guy who kills once every other night, or an unknown number of mafia and cartel scum (probably minimum two with NK abilities, though we may have already got one with Karosis, but who knows how their abilities work) who could more likely than not potentially kill EVERY night?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Your right the multiple deaths night one had me confused. Maybe Omtose being arrested prevented that.

Are you going to crucify Silanah now for suggesting Shadow?

Right now, no, because they at least are being backed up by their ability to arrest players. On top of that, they're actually coming out with substantive evidence to back up their suspicions. But IF Omtose turns out not to be mafia, I will first crucify Emurlahn, and then I'll push on Silanah for the possibility of trying to steer away from Omtose. But if Omtose is mafia, I am more than happy to follow their lead on Shadow next, unless something even more substantial comes up in the meantime.

So now you don't believe Silanah could be a cop?