[Eloth]

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Lets see.

I killed Tholen on Night 1, dealing 4HP of damage to them.

Any counter-claims?

Interesting you have a 4hp of damage night attack. This is turning into a very informative day.

[Liosan]

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Yeah, this one will be tough. Mockra may be right in that Hood revealed an ability without any obvious pressure besides the early focus on Gait.

[Hood's Path]

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Lets see.

I killed Tholen on Night 1, dealing 4HP of damage to them.

Any counter-claims?

You want people to reveal if they have a kill ability?

[Eloth]

Hood, on 28 October 2015 - 08:08 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

He's leading the thread and creating this code thing which is just cover for his devious plans. I'm not having my leader being taken over by Togg, he's dangerous.

MD5 has is just a smart idea to prevent yourself from being taken over. I had been thinking about something similar yesterday but for the slip and speed lynch.

[Liosan]

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Lets see.I killed Tholen on Night 1, dealing 4HP of damage to them.Any counter-claims?

Interesting you have a 4hp of damage night attack. This is turning into a very informative day.

4 hp damage seems like a lot for a role that can supposedly dominate at will. Something is not adding up here.

[Eloth]

Liosan, on 28 October 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Yeah, this one will be tough. Mockra may be right in that Hood revealed an ability without any obvious pressure besides the early focus on Gait.

Yeah but Togg could have just said that he was asleep during the speed lynch. I doubt that anyone would have questioned that. I find this whole thing to be very suspicious.

[Hood's Path]

We can lynch gait now or tomorrow but that may only give Togg another shot at someone else's alt.

[Mockra]

Liosan, on 28 October 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Lets see.I killed Tholen on Night 1, dealing 4HP of damage to them.Any counter-claims?

Interesting you have a 4hp of damage night attack. This is turning into a very informative day.

4 hp damage seems like a lot for a role that can supposedly dominate at will. Something is not adding up here.

He's not saying he can do both. HP is saying he used dominate. Togg is saying he couldn't have as his NA was to attack someone.

[Olar Ethil]

Liosan, on 28 October 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Lets see.I killed Tholen on Night 1, dealing 4HP of damage to them.Any counter-claims?

Interesting you have a 4hp of damage night attack. This is turning into a very informative day.

4 hp damage seems like a lot for a role that can supposedly dominate at will. Something is not adding up here.

Agreed. And Tholen was a conjured elemental.

Vote Togg

This post has been edited by Olar Ethil: 28 October 2015 - 08:16 PM

[Hood's Path]

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 06:48 PM, said:

Well now that was an interesting day.

Nice slip up by AF leading to a speed lynch. Normally I would hate that sort of thing, wanting everyone to get a chance to get their orders in however this time I am glad.

Why you ask?

Well, my question to you all is this - in a game where PS explicitly states you may lose control of your alt did none of you question my absence on thread.

You see in the Night phase my alt was taken over by someone else. Do the entire (short) Day I was banished from it and someone else had login abilities to it. The information available to them was limited admittedly but in that whole Day they could have totally fucked me over, made me say anything they wanted on thread, lynched myself etc.

Now as it happens they didn't post from me. I am glad. But also slightly disappointed - because then I'd have a post or more to work from to alt whoever did that to me. So beware, someone out there can and will steal your alt from you at will.

From this day onwards I will be encrypting a message in a post. At the start of the next Day I will decrypt it. If I do not/cannot decrypt it then I am again possessed. I would suggest others do likewise.

Now PS didn't let much slip but I do know that if the possessed alt dies the original host dies too. So attacking the possessed isn't a useful course of action.

Needless to say I was pissed at this happening to me, even though I suspect it was mainly down to me claiming to be inimitable. There are a few who could give it a good go. There are others who would deliberately do it badly. Alas no posts means I don't know which way they would have gone.

Todays message is 2701DC94114D8B85A810E2F96419EB4F.

But he states here that we should have questioned why he didn't post.

He also says that whoever jumped into him did not have all the information available? What does this even mean, he said they had log in capabilities

[Eloth]

Hood, on 28 October 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

We can lynch gait now or tomorrow but that may only give Togg another shot at someone else's alt.

We have an entire day to go over things. Unless someone pulls a Aparal there is no reason to rush into a speed lynch.

[Mockra]

I would say that Aparal's slip was odd. Never seen that happen before - someone posting in thread instead of in a PM. Actually, I have seen it a couple of times before, but it was done deliberately in order to try and fool other people in some sort of way.

[Hood's Path]

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:19 PM, said:

Hood, on 28 October 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

We can lynch gait now or tomorrow but that may only give Togg another shot at someone else's alt.

We have an entire day to go over things. Unless someone pulls a Aparal there is no reason to rush into a speed lynch.

By now, I meant today. I'm not advocating a speed lynch here.

[Eloth]

Hood, on 28 October 2015 - 08:18 PM, said:

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 06:48 PM, said:

Well now that was an interesting day.

Nice slip up by AF leading to a speed lynch. Normally I would hate that sort of thing, wanting everyone to get a chance to get their orders in however this time I am glad.

Why you ask?

Well, my question to you all is this - in a game where PS explicitly states you may lose control of your alt did none of you question my absence on thread.

You see in the Night phase my alt was taken over by someone else. Do the entire (short) Day I was banished from it and someone else had login abilities to it. The information available to them was limited admittedly but in that whole Day they could have totally fucked me over, made me say anything they wanted on thread, lynched myself etc.

Now as it happens they didn't post from me. I am glad. But also slightly disappointed - because then I'd have a post or more to work from to alt whoever did that to me. So beware, someone out there can and will steal your alt from you at will.

From this day onwards I will be encrypting a message in a post. At the start of the next Day I will decrypt it. If I do not/cannot decrypt it then I am again possessed. I would suggest others do likewise.

Now PS didn't let much slip but I do know that if the possessed alt dies the original host dies too. So attacking the possessed isn't a useful course of action.

Needless to say I was pissed at this happening to me, even though I suspect it was mainly down to me claiming to be inimitable. There are a few who could give it a good go. There are others who would deliberately do it badly. Alas no posts means I don't know which way they would have gone.

Todays message is 2701DC94114D8B85A810E2F96419EB4F.

But he states here that we should have questioned why he didn't post.

He also says that whoever jumped into him did not have all the information available? What does this even mean, he said they had log in capabilities

Speaking as a previous mod who has modded games like this. When you allow someone to have access to another alt you first go in and remove pms. Then when the player gets access back you copy those pms into a new conversation. That way the player who is possessing someone else only has access to the alt for posting but not for role pms. The clevet is in games that had conversations with other alts. Those were not removed as it would be a give away that someone had been possessed.

[Liosan]

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:19 PM, said:

Hood, on 28 October 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

We can lynch gait now or tomorrow but that may only give Togg another shot at someone else's alt.

We have an entire day to go over things. Unless someone pulls a Aparal there is no reason to rush into a speed lynch.

Yeah we need to consider that Gait and Togg may both be able to play with various alts, either through domination, summoning, or some kind of mechanic. Or Hood might be deflecting from Gait.

I'm also not a huge fan of the code stuff. I'd rather not have to micromanage codes all game.

[Eloth]

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

I would say that Aparal's slip was odd. Never seen that happen before - someone posting in thread instead of in a PM. Actually, I have seen it a couple of times before, but it was done deliberately in order to try and fool other people in some sort of way.

I have seen it accidentally happen before a couple of times. But usually the person doing it is in a panic to remove or edit the post or if not then to minimize the damage. The one thing that stood out was the lack of defense or attempt to explain or just fight not to be lynched. Aparal didn't do any of that until it was way way to late. Very unusual.

[Olar Ethil]

Just to throw it out, if we do the MD5 code that Togg is suggesting, who is to say that anyone couldn't decrypt it? There are online MD5 decrypters online just like the generators...

[Togg]

Olar Ethil, on 28 October 2015 - 08:16 PM, said:

Liosan, on 28 October 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Mockra, on 28 October 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Togg, any of those arguments (doesn't sound like you, not your regular timezone) could be countered. Mind you, HP could just as easily be making it up. This is a tricky one.

Lets see.I killed Tholen on Night 1, dealing 4HP of damage to them.Any counter-claims?

Interesting you have a 4hp of damage night attack. This is turning into a very informative day.

4 hp damage seems like a lot for a role that can supposedly dominate at will. Something is not adding up here.

Agreed. And Tholen was a conjured elemental.

Vote Togg

Tholen was clearly a puppet alt and one that wasn't having any votes down on so was a good target to hit. I'm not sure why you're voting me because I targeted an Elemantal, unless you're claiming a need to defend Elementals?

[Togg]

Olar Ethil, on 28 October 2015 - 08:29 PM, said:

Just to throw it out, if we do the MD5 code that Togg is suggesting, who is to say that anyone couldn't decrypt it? There are online MD5 decrypters online just like the generators...

Go find one.

[Togg]

Eloth, on 28 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Speaking as a previous mod who has modded games like this. When you allow someone to have access to another alt you first go in and remove pms. Then when the player gets access back you copy those pms into a new conversation. That way the player who is possessing someone else only has access to the alt for posting but not for role pms. The clevet is in games that had conversations with other alts. Those were not removed as it would be a give away that someone had been possessed.

Eloth is of course correct. I didn't put that on thread because then any future claims of the same happening I could have asked them about that aspect of it.