[Hood's Path]

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance. There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us. There are features in the light that do. Bones that creak are old and speak. While some hounds scamper and play ,some sit out and bay. Things are what they seem yet not at all what they appear. Those who look for something for nothing will instead only find nothing for something.

Now this is The WTF of the day.
But author has some real talent for poetry I guess.

[Liosan]

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance. There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us. There are features in the light that do. Bones that creak are old and speak. While some hounds scamper and play ,some sit out and bay. Things are what they seem yet not at all what they appear. Those who look for something for nothing will instead only find nothing for something.

That is either gibberish or a faction leader hinting at allegiances

That last line of the message sounds like the speaker telling us it is gibberish. Unless... UNLESS THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT US TO THINK?!

[Mockra]

Wikipedia says that Joseph Weil was a famous conman. How tricksy.

[Mockra]

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

[Ultama]

Maybe, maybe not, it sounds like gibberish to me. As long as it continues to do so, I'm filing it under the "Messing With Our Minds" category.

[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

Togg doesnt sit out much...

[Togg]

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

Yes, it also seems to be saying that BO is a Rogue and that Shadow isn't.

[Togg]

Hood, on 27 October 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

Togg doesnt sit out much...

I'm more of a frantically running around leaping at fences and digging in flowerbeds type I must admit.

[Ultama]

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:23 PM, said:

Wikipedia says that Joseph Weil was a famous conman. How tricksy.

Just read Wikipedia as well. His biographer wrote of Weil that he had a "uncanny knowledge of human nature". If you combine that with the quote "Each of my victims had larceny in his heart", that might indicate that whoever whispered has knowledge of an alt being taken.

[Togg]

Ultama, on 27 October 2015 - 07:31 PM, said:

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:23 PM, said:

Wikipedia says that Joseph Weil was a famous conman. How tricksy.

Just read Wikipedia as well. His biographer wrote of Weil that he had a "uncanny knowledge of human nature". If you combine that with the quote "Each of my victims had larceny in his heart", that might indicate that whoever whispered has knowledge of an alt being taken.

Blue: Combined with the post I'm going to assume this is a Day Faction Find.

I'm not sure how you tie the larcency quote to alts being taken though, can you explain?

[Ultama]

Well, larcency is the "unlawful taking of someone else's property", that could be taking over someone's alt. So, if we now look for something in that taken alt, we might find nothing as we tie someone else's behaviour to the CF. However, that is a bit far-fetched.

[Togg]

Ultama, on 27 October 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well, larcency is the "unlawful taking of someone else's property", that could be taking over someone's alt. So, if we now look for something in that taken alt, we might find nothing as we tie someone else's behaviour to the CF. However, that is a bit far-fetched.

I'd taken larceny to just be a reference to the Rogue faction.


Joseph Weil has made a little bit of a mistake though. By claiming Bek as a Rogue we are left in a particular situation.

Two factions will want the Rogue lynched, that's 10 alts minimum. 5 minimum including BO will not. Now in the event of a BO lynch the rest of the Rogue faction need to try to avoid pulling away from a BO lynch too hard less they become noticed for doing so and provide a focus for the other factions to lynch again. Similarly, any Rogues already on the BO train now will be reluctant to remove as it'll indicate they're probably Rogue.

BO, I think the Rogue Leader wants you dead.

[Togg]

It is probably also worth noting Joseph Weil could simply be an assumed name and we maybe shouldn't read too much into it - I could call myself Adam West but that doesn't make me telling people that Fener is the Penguin any more believable

[Gait]

Togg, we all know how much you love throwing shit out to see what sticks but so far you've brought up vigging, alliances, day finds and a solid hankering to vote off our lowest poster.


I'm fine with my vote where it sits. If you're an alt, we might get a faction CF but, as you've pointed out your style is pretty inimitable so finding your primary should be easier. If you're not we'll get your faction CF. Either way we reduce the wild shit you're pulling out of your ass.

[Eloth]

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 07:49 PM, said:

Ultama, on 27 October 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well, larcency is the "unlawful taking of someone else's property", that could be taking over someone's alt. So, if we now look for something in that taken alt, we might find nothing as we tie someone else's behaviour to the CF. However, that is a bit far-fetched.

I'd taken larceny to just be a reference to the Rogue faction.


Joseph Weil has made a little bit of a mistake though. By claiming Bek as a Rogue we are left in a particular situation.

Two factions will want the Rogue lynched, that's 10 alts minimum. 5 minimum including BO will not. Now in the event of a BO lynch the rest of the Rogue faction need to try to avoid pulling away from a BO lynch too hard less they become noticed for doing so and provide a focus for the other factions to lynch again. Similarly, any Rogues already on the BO train now will be reluctant to remove as it'll indicate they're probably Rogue.

BO, I think the Rogue Leader wants you dead.

I am confused. Those two don't seem to match up. Your logic is starting to make my head hurt.

[Eloth]

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

Yes, it also seems to be saying that BO is a Rogue and that Shadow isn't.

How do you see that? I am with Liosan and Ultima on it being gibberish.

[Hood's Path]

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance. There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us. There are features in the light that do. Bones that creak are old and speak. While some hounds scamper and play ,some sit out and bay. Things are what they seem yet not at all what they appear. Those who look for something for nothing will instead only find nothing for something.

Guess those are the parts Togg refers to?

[Togg]

Eloth, on 27 October 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

Yes, it also seems to be saying that BO is a Rogue and that Shadow isn't.

How do you see that? I am with Liosan and Ultima on it being gibberish.

Lets read through it.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance.

Joseph Weil is a con-man, a thief, a Rogue. This is pretty clearly claiming at a faction. He's claiming at this information being important.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us.

Shadow is not a Rogue

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

There are features in the light that do.

BO, who is the most voted alt ("In the light," the alt most exposed to lynch) is.

Seems pretty clear to me.

[Togg]

Eloth, on 27 October 2015 - 08:03 PM, said:

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 07:49 PM, said:

Ultama, on 27 October 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well, larcency is the "unlawful taking of someone else's property", that could be taking over someone's alt. So, if we now look for something in that taken alt, we might find nothing as we tie someone else's behaviour to the CF. However, that is a bit far-fetched.

I'd taken larceny to just be a reference to the Rogue faction.


Joseph Weil has made a little bit of a mistake though. By claiming Bek as a Rogue we are left in a particular situation.

Two factions will want the Rogue lynched, that's 10 alts minimum. 5 minimum including BO will not. Now in the event of a BO lynch the rest of the Rogue faction need to try to avoid pulling away from a BO lynch too hard less they become noticed for doing so and provide a focus for the other factions to lynch again. Similarly, any Rogues already on the BO train now will be reluctant to remove as it'll indicate they're probably Rogue.

BO, I think the Rogue Leader wants you dead.

I am confused. Those two don't seem to match up. Your logic is starting to make my head hurt.

Sorry, I wasn't particularly clear there. Claiming BO as a Rogue Joseph may have wanted to avert the lynch of BO as a low poster/duplicate alt. It makes it more likely now. If BO is a Rogue then his faction signed his death warrant.

[Eloth]

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 08:18 PM, said:

Eloth, on 27 October 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

Togg, on 27 October 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Mockra, on 27 October 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

Also, 'some hounds...sit out and bay' sounds like Togg to me. Basically the message appears to be summarising the thread situation. That's my take.

Yes, it also seems to be saying that BO is a Rogue and that Shadow isn't.

How do you see that? I am with Liosan and Ultima on it being gibberish.

Lets read through it.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance.

Joseph Weil is a con-man, a thief, a Rogue. This is pretty clearly claiming at a faction. He's claiming at this information being important.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us.

Shadow is not a Rogue

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

There are features in the light that do.

BO, who is the most voted alt ("In the light," the alt most exposed to lynch) is.

Seems pretty clear to me.

That makes sense. Of course if you look at the last two sentences

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance. There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us. There are features in the light that do. Bones that creak are old and speak. While some hounds scamper and play ,some sit out and bay. Things are what they seem yet not at all what they appear. Those who look for something for nothing will instead only find nothing for something.

It could be read to flip everything above it around. So then Shadow would be a rogue and BO isn't. At least according to your logic. Basically gibberish. I am going to ignore it.

Although there was the ealier post of PS that seemed a little bit different as well and mentioned Shadow.

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 02:34 PM, said:

As you're walking across a field, you get a rather bad smell in your nostrils. You try holding a cloth to your face, but it permeates. You look around you, and you can tell that the smell is coming from Shadow. He smells like the stinking heap of shit of a fighting bull in his absolute prime.

Then there was the silencing of Shadow even earlier. For someone who hasn't posted a ton he seems to be drawing a lot of attention.