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Mafia 127 - Wizards, Rogues & Barbarians Game Thread

#121 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:38 PM

View PostTogg, on 27 October 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 October 2015 - 03:12 PM, said:

I like your confidence Togg and it seems like you understand the extra alts better than most as they could be a number of things. Many people are being cagey with their cards close to their chest but you're wanton and carefree. If I had extra alts I'd play one a lot like you.

vote togg


I think that is a compliment. So I'm an extra alt and you'd play and extra alt like I am, ergo I must be your extra alt?


Well with no indication as to what faction the extra alts come from, I'm thinking it a safe bet to vote for one of the extra alts.

#122 User is offline   Togg 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:39 PM

View PostSerc, on 27 October 2015 - 04:38 PM, said:

View PostTogg, on 27 October 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 October 2015 - 03:12 PM, said:

I like your confidence Togg and it seems like you understand the extra alts better than most as they could be a number of things. Many people are being cagey with their cards close to their chest but you're wanton and carefree. If I had extra alts I'd play one a lot like you.

vote togg


I think that is a compliment. So I'm an extra alt and you'd play and extra alt like I am, ergo I must be your extra alt?


Well with no indication as to what faction the extra alts come from, I'm thinking it a safe bet to vote for one of the extra alts.


But if we voted you then we'd know my alignment as your extra alt plus we'd have taken a faction down by 1. That'll be pleasing to the two factions you're not in.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:40 PM

View PostTogg, on 27 October 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

Serc is saying if he had an extra alt he'd be playing his extra alt like I'm playing. Therefore because I'm playing like Serc would be playing an extra alt I must be Sercs extra alt. Since I am Sercs extra it would make sense to target the primary i.e. Serc if his assertion is to be believed.


I think you really could use that logic course. BIG hole between your premise and conclusion.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:45 PM

I think that is why he was using the sarcasm

#125 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:46 PM

So you're trying to pin the extra alts on me after I've pointed out that you look like one?

You're basically spamming the thread with nonsense. With 19 alts, finding your primary will be difficult and I don't even know whether or not you're in my faction. Yet, early day one and you're already harping on about low posters. Something which is not unusual in faction games.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:47 PM

View PostTogg, on 27 October 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

Serc is saying if he had an extra alt he'd be playing his extra alt like I'm playing. Therefore because I'm playing like Serc would be playing an extra alt I must be Sercs extra alt.


I understand that.
I just dont see sense of saying youre Sercs alt just because they say they would play the alt similar way to yours, I cant consider it anything but a lame joke. The value of that post=0.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:56 PM

View PostSerc, on 27 October 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

So you're trying to pin the extra alts on me after I've pointed out that you look like one?

You're basically spamming the thread with nonsense. With 19 alts, finding your primary will be difficult and I don't even know whether or not you're in my faction. Yet, early day one and you're already harping on about low posters. Something which is not unusual in faction games.


You know what, I've got 30 posts (31 now) so why is that twice the nearest? Or 30 times the lowest? You want to play the game then play the damned game, don't hide get up and bloody well play. That is also why I like suggesting low-poster lynches. Because they're alts hanging around adding no value. As you say it is not unusual in faction games. So what is the problem here?

My question is why the ***k aren't the rest of you talking. Okay this isn't M&P but we still need to make links between people if there is to be any point to a Day phase (and basis to a culture hunt.) One day perhaps you could run a game that consists entirely of Night phases if that is how you want to play.

Additionally, me being quite so loud has a major benefit to me - let us return to the OP

View PostPath-Shaper, on 20 October 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Game Specific RulesThere are times where you may lose control of your alt - you will be informed via the Alt PM sent to your regular account if this is the case.


Now lets think about it. Assume you have the ability to claim control of another alt. Are you going to target an alt that has made a small number of posts or are you going to target an alt where you're going to have to sweat your balls off to keep up with my pace. By doing this I'm making it extraordinarily hard for someone to successfully pretend to be me. I'm making myself impossible to imitate. That is good play for both me and my faction. Anyone who isn't doing the same I am forced to conclude has a chance of being someone who can take control of my alt. The fact you hadn't realised this shows you're not putting enough thought into the game.

#128 User is offline   Togg 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 04:57 PM

View PostHood, on 27 October 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

View PostTogg, on 27 October 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

Serc is saying if he had an extra alt he'd be playing his extra alt like I'm playing. Therefore because I'm playing like Serc would be playing an extra alt I must be Sercs extra alt.


I understand that.
I just dont see sense of saying youre Sercs alt just because they say they would play the alt similar way to yours, I cant consider it anything but a lame joke. The value of that post=0.


It was intended to make Serc aware of how his statement could be turned on him.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 05:21 PM

For me personally, the reason I'm not posting as much as Togg is is because every time I get on here and read through all of Togg's posts, I think I'm ready to say something, then refresh and there's a whole bunch more of Togg's posts to read through - it's hard work you know and I'm not getting any appreciation for it!


This whole exchange also feels faintly ridiculous to me. Some people appear to be taking Togg's sarcasm re Serc's post overly seriously, and are circling around it as if it's something worth discussing like it was a serious accusation.

Also also, why the sudden interest in finding and voting extra alts, rather than their masters/primary alts?

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 05:22 PM

It is Day 1. There are 21 hours 34 minutes remaining.

19 players left alive: Aparal Forge, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Denul, Eloth, Gait, Hood’s Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ryllandaras, Serc, Shadow, Tholen, Togg, Ultama

8 votes for a lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 vote Shadow: Eloth
3 votes Bek Okhan: Liosan, Togg, Hood's Path
2 votes Togg: Serc, Gait


Players note voted: Aparal Forge, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Denul, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ryllandaras, Shadow, Tholen, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#131 User is offline   Aparal Forge 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 05:26 PM

i wouldn't mind a vote on bek okhan. It's possible that this alt ability doesn't need activation, (it comes into play as soon as the game start), but if that isn't the case, there's two people who confirmed posted in between PS' vote post and OP.

vote bek okhan

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 05:28 PM

View PostMockra, on 27 October 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

For me personally, the reason I'm not posting as much as Togg is is because every time I get on here and read through all of Togg's posts, I think I'm ready to say something, then refresh and there's a whole bunch more of Togg's posts to read through - it's hard work you know and I'm not getting any appreciation for it!


This whole exchange also feels faintly ridiculous to me. Some people appear to be taking Togg's sarcasm re Serc's post overly seriously, and are circling around it as if it's something worth discussing like it was a serious accusation.

Also also, why the sudden interest in finding and voting extra alts, rather than their masters/primary alts?


Alas, our time zones must clash! I'm potentially around for the next 3½ hours heavily and possibly occasionally for 10 after that and then maybe heavily for another 2 if you'd like to try and avoid me :)

Regardless of the rest I do appreciate other people getting on here.

And yes, faintly ridiculous. But it is Day 1 and that's a crapshoot usually. As for the primary/extras, I was trying to get at that with Serc but they all seem to be blind to it. Shrug.

#133 User is offline   Togg 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 05:33 PM

View PostAparal Forge, on 27 October 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

i wouldn't mind a vote on bek okhan. It's possible that this alt ability doesn't need activation, (it comes into play as soon as the game start), but if that isn't the case, there's two people who confirmed posted in between PS' vote post and OP.

vote bek okhan


There is the slight matter of the thread having been moved in from SH hence the OP posts having dates of the 20th. BO and OE may just have caught it in the minutes it took Blend to get the clock starting post up after having moved it. Technically HP was first after the game was started. I don't totally discount your theory but I suspect it isn't so.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 05:50 PM

View PostTogg, on 27 October 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostAparal Forge, on 27 October 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

i wouldn't mind a vote on bek okhan. It's possible that this alt ability doesn't need activation, (it comes into play as soon as the game start), but if that isn't the case, there's two people who confirmed posted in between PS' vote post and OP.

vote bek okhan


There is the slight matter of the thread having been moved in from SH hence the OP posts having dates of the 20th. BO and OE may just have caught it in the minutes it took Blend to get the clock starting post up after having moved it. Technically HP was first after the game was started. I don't totally discount your theory but I suspect it isn't so.


That explains certain timing differences.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 06:48 PM

After reading up on all of that. I do not see any posting that could be construed as one of the fake alts. I would be more likely look at a low poster to find one of them rather then a high poster like Togg. Simply from the fact that it takes a lot to maintain a high post count in more then one alt. I still don't like Shadow but not as much as I didn't like him before. I am not really seeing the case on Bek but I would rather have a lynch today then no lynch. Yes I understand that he could be in my faction. But if we don't lynch because we are scared to kill people in our faction then this game will devolve to only night actions and those types of games are boring to me.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 06:54 PM

View PostMockra, on 27 October 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:



Also also, why the sudden interest in finding and voting extra alts, rather than their masters/primary alts?

For the sake of gauging reactions. Someone isn't going to want to lose their alt even if it is an extra.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance. There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us. There are features in the light that do. Bones that creak are old and speak. While some hounds scamper and play ,some sit out and bay. Things are what they seem yet not at all what they appear. Those who look for something for nothing will instead only find nothing for something.

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Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#138 User is offline   Togg 

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 07:10 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 October 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

You hear a whisper in the shadows. It mumbles:

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This is the great Joseph Weil. Listen to me for what I have to say is of the utmost importance. There is are shadows in the night that do not belong to us. There are features in the light that do. Bones that creak are old and speak. While some hounds scamper and play ,some sit out and bay. Things are what they seem yet not at all what they appear. Those who look for something for nothing will instead only find nothing for something.



That is either gibberish or a faction leader hinting at allegiances

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 07:13 PM

It is Day 1. There are 19 hours 44 minutes remaining.

19 players left alive: Aparal Forge, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Denul, Eloth, Gait, Hood’s Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ryllandaras, Serc, Shadow, Tholen, Togg, Ultama

8 votes for a lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

4 votes Bek Okhan: Liosan, Togg, Hood's Path, Aparal Forge
2 votes Togg: Serc, Gait


Players note voted: Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Denul, Eloth, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ryllandaras, Shadow, Tholen, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 October 2015 - 07:14 PM

View PostEloth, on 27 October 2015 - 06:48 PM, said:

I am not really seeing the case on Bek but I would rather have a lynch today then no lynch. Yes I understand that he could be in my faction. But if we don't lynch because we are scared to kill people in our faction then this game will devolve to only night actions and those types of games are boring to me. Remove Vote


There really is no case on Bek besides the fact that I wanted to provoke some kind of reaction from the low posters. I think the more dangerous players are likely hiding in the low posters by this point, but as someone mentioned above, the alts may be among them as well. I'm not sure lynching an alt is the best outcome for a lynch. For now I'll leave my vote on Bek.

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