[Gait]

 Kessobahn, on 10 June 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 07:23 AM, said:

Bendal I made three posts in that 8 hour window, and yes those last 2 are in the window. I think you are trying to set me up here, and remain utterly convinced you need to go.

Try reading that post I made again.

Here it is for your convenience.

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 05:56 AM, said:

Unfortunately Gait posted that after the 8 hour bracket had ended therefore the post could not have been the trigger for the #2 killer to be awarded.

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 05:56 AM, said:

Unfortunately Gait posted that after the 8 hour bracket had ended therefore the post could not have been the trigger for the #2 killer to be awarded.

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 05:56 AM, said:

Unfortunately Gait posted that after the 8 hour bracket had ended therefore the post could not have been the trigger for the #2 killer to be awarded.

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 05:56 AM, said:

Unfortunately Gait posted that after the 8 hour bracket had ended therefore the post could not have been the trigger for the #2 killer to be awarded.

Just to be really simplistic here are the posts in order

 Path-Shaper, on 09 June 2015 - 10:01 PM, said:

Day 4 is in full swing.

2 hours are left in the day.

11 players are hanging out.

Bendal Home, Denesmet, Eloth, Gait, Grasp, Kessobahn, Lock, Omtose, Serc, Shadow, Tholen

1 vote Serc: Bendal Home
1 vote Shadow: Denesmet
3 votes Bendal Home: Kessobahn, Gait, Tholen
1 vote Lock: Omtose

Players not voting:

Eloth, Grasp, Lock, Serc, Shadow

2 hours are left in the day, this means the final 8 hour window has closed. PS is in the process of resolving.

 Gait, on 09 June 2015 - 10:03 PM, said:

I'd hazard a guess that this game is out of towns hands at this point. There isn't even close to serious pressure getting lynches done despite the fact that we have no mechanism to stop both scum and cult without them, so I must think that those who are dicking around this late in the game are one of those two. But since it benefits them to not vote and continue to dick around, there isn't much we can do to thin their numbers a bit. Not even bothering to post much anymore because of this.

Path-Shaper I am formally requesting the ability to night/day kill as many people as I care to kill. You know, if that suddenly became a reward that became available 17 seconds before you read this post of course.

 Gait, on 09 June 2015 - 10:07 PM, said:

By the way in case you were wondering yes that previous post was originally fucking LACED with profanities about what USELESS arseholes you guys are that you aren't even able to get regular lynches anymore you COCKSTAINS.

(Sorry, is it not okay to be annoyed with this bullshit town behavior where seemingly no one is even trying to win anymore, and not even being punished for it? WELL TOUGH FUCKING SHIT.)

(Sorry Shin)

 Path-Shaper, on 09 June 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

The Second and Final Role of Killer has been Awarded

No other Items/Roles or Parodies were awarded in this cycle.

During the final two hours, it is still possible to earn something.

PS has finished resolving. Either Shin decided to make it really ****ing obvious who the 2nd killer is by posting it on thread 9min after the condition was satisfied or resolution including typing up the post took 11min. Which do you think is more likely.

Now look at the blue text indicating that as far as PS was concerned this post referred to the previous 8 hour period and not to the 2-hour time after the update. Are you with me yet.

That aside, keep on with the read through. I know you'll be back on me at the end but at least others are getting a look so you've got your excuse of having looked at everyone else first. Come up with a #2, 3 and 4 target though because then you may pick someone who is actually scum.

Though your reasoning is sound, why the hell are you so adamant about protecting Gait? You're really not doing anything to alleviate my suspicion that you two are cult working together.

Believe me I have no fucking clue what he is doing either trying so very desperately to clear my name all the time. As I have posted earlier it only makes me want to lynch him more, and I have tried and failed to do exactly that.

[Bendal Home]

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Believe me I have no fucking clue what he is doing either trying so very desperately to clear my name all the time. As I have posted earlier it only makes me want to lynch him more, and I have tried and failed to do exactly that.

<sigh>

You're not killer #1, killer #2 or recruiter. You had a last fucking minute train start on you because of those posts. I'm demonstrating why those that voted for you are idiots.

Actually, you know what, fuck you. I point out how you can't be scum and you keep wanting to lynch me for it. Get a life.

Remove Vote

Vote Gait

[Shadow]

 Lock, on 10 June 2015 - 12:46 PM, said:

 Denesmet, on 09 June 2015 - 12:36 PM, said:

So for serials, going by the lynch train, which is really all I have, I'm a gonna say that myself, Gait, and Shadow fall into the 'scum zone' of voting on a train. This is pure science fact.

Since it ain't me, and Bendal said it ain't Gait, Shadow must be scum.


Vote Shadow


Although I suppose one could also look at those who have died thus far and ponder why. Perhaps I'll get on that this evening,

This is actually the best thing that I have seen so far.


Vote Shadow

Fuck me this is getting down right pathetic.

[Serc]

Are you surprised - 1/3 of all players are scum or cult right? Another 1/3 is preoccupied with RL, and the remainder is arguably trying to pull it together

[Shadow]

 Serc, on 10 June 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

Are you surprised - 1/3 of all players are scum or cult right? Another 1/3 is preoccupied with RL, and the remainder is arguably trying to pull it together

True I suppose. Still seems like relatively weak play with so many vets on the roster.

[Tholen]

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 10:11 AM, said:

Shadow

33 Posts (Don't know what I decided to use a capital P here in Eloths but fuck it I'll keep it consistent)

Also gets going on his fifth post;

 Shadow, on 02 June 2015 - 11:46 AM, said:

Im not so sure that Shin would be so obvious as to give roles to the most obvious of posters especially with us simply lynching the loudest of us the last few months. Then again that really is WIFOM as he could have done it betting that we would second guess ourselves for just those reasons. That being said the thinking can be confirmed by lynching one of the two. It wouldnt be totally pointless as it could help give us a little info about whats going on. On the other hand as Denesmet highlighted roles could be handed to low posters as well and when was the last time we went on a low poster hunt D1? I need to ruminate on this a bit.

Gets straight into WIFOM territory with his first attempt at contributing. Not a great start. Suggests going for myself or Bendal but isn't committing to anything in case the wind blows somewhere else.


Makes a few most short posts not really anything in them, some minor prodding of Tholen and Bendal Home.

 Shadow, on 02 June 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

In any case

Vote Gait


I really want to vote BH for numerous reasons, but none of them add up to scum yet. Gait as #2 poster, asking numerous stupid questions to fill the thread and generally being more confusing make him a more comfortable fit for the chopping block.

Lays a vote on me for being spammy.

 Shadow, on 03 June 2015 - 01:43 PM, said:

Lets get this ball rolling early. I like either Gait or Tholen for a lynch. So lets see what plays out.

Vote Tholen

Then turns around and votes Tholen with no reasoning at all. When asked why he responds with this;

 Shadow, on 03 June 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:

Partly gut and partly his actions. Im thrashing through the weeds of the thread now to come up with the relevant quotes

I'd go as far to suggest this is not the strongest case ever made in mafia, until...

 Shadow, on 03 June 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

So here is what I have for the moment

A vote is dropped on Tholen who has been absent for a really long time and he suddenly pops up 10 minutes later with this post. I made note of it but it was either ignored or lost in the thread.

 Tholen, on 02 June 2015 - 02:34 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 02 June 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

And actually I see Shadow is in my "clear list"

So

Remove Vote

Vote Tholen

For a conspicuous drop in posting

Ohh! It felt so good to get to the end of all that posting and see my name..Made me feel all warm and mushy inside knowing I was missed.

BH, are you going to look at my penis again today?

Why is Lock so angry at your posts?

And why haven't I received the Monocle yet!?!?!?

Here he says that the logic of the lists being made for roles being awarded is flawed possibly trying to confuse everyone and throw off any pursuit of this line of thinking. Again he was confronted with a question of why he thought it was flawed logic which was patently ignored.

 Tholen, on 02 June 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Hint: Awarding Roles/Items/Parodies for posting can be based on just about anything, from when people post, how they post, what they post...

Days will be 34 hours. Nights 0. In some cases something might be awarded just before time-out. Tough luck to the winner, if that's the case. They'll just have to wait until the next day/night to use it.

 Bendal Home, on 02 June 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:

Now this is very interesting. Because roles are awarded based on posting. Logically the Killer and the Recruiter can only be amongst those that posted between the 8-hourly updates. I didn't. I'll make a list shortly.

This logic is flawed..so I don't think we can narrow the possible window like BH suggested here. Was this suggestion intended to confuse?

Then he pops up with a super random vote, remove, vote someone else for no reason whatsoever. And again he simply ignores any questions about his line of reasoning.

 Tholen, on 02 June 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

My idiocy is just plan outstanding..
Lets try this one more time

REMOVE VOTE HOOD'S PATH
VOTE ULTAMA

 Tholen, on 02 June 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 02 June 2015 - 05:20 PM, said:

 Tholen, on 02 June 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

My idiocy is just plan outstanding..
Lets try this one more time

REMOVE VOTE HOOD'S PATH
VOTE ULTAMA

And again, reasoning?

Overuse of the phrase "Damn it!" And not enough commentary in-between, not much but there it is. My small brain can't handle more than that. Do with that what you will O' Mighty Spammer

So, so far he pops in when a vote gets dropped and then proceeds to thrash around answering no questions about why he says or does anything. It is also noted in one of the quotes above by BH that Tholens posting habits dropped off quite a bit after the roles were awarded. It has been said that he could be a noob, but even that doesnt preclude him from being either the killer or cult.

A nice case here, makes a couple of good points!

Next bunch of posts are short, mostly harping on Tholen (seems to be a theme developing in this game of people getting fixated on one person )

Is willing to vote away from Tholen onto Ultama to aid in a lynch.

Good townie play IMO, no real complaints here.

I'm quite confused at the middle part of this case on Shadow..that parts seems to be a case on me..
Either way, at the time BH was claiming that both roles had to of originated in the 8 hour window. I said that was incorrect because as even BH has said in later posts, the role of Killer was going to be awarded in that day, so you can't narrow it down to the 8 hour window, just the role of cult recruiter.

Second, his point wasn't a good one. My posting was related to my time zone, as I explained at the time..repeatedly..That being said, I find it interesting that you choose to say his case was a good one when it was so patently incorrect.

I'd also like to say, that my HP vote was a mistake that I thought would see me lynched..I think you intentionally must that up on the board to implicate me without looking too suspicious..I just don't know why you did it in the middle of a Shadow related post...Or why I didn't get a case on me..So at this moment


VOTE GAIT

[Gait]

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Believe me I have no fucking clue what he is doing either trying so very desperately to clear my name all the time. As I have posted earlier it only makes me want to lynch him more, and I have tried and failed to do exactly that.

<sigh>

You're not killer #1, killer #2 or recruiter. You had a last fucking minute train start on you because of those posts. I'm demonstrating why those that voted for you are idiots.

Actually, you know what, fuck you. I point out how you can't be scum and you keep wanting to lynch me for it. Get a life.

Remove Vote

Vote Gait

We are ALL idiots here, that's why we were sectioned off into this little subforum to idiot at each other without inflicting our stupid on the general malazites.

[Kessobahn]

Geez, what's with all the OMGUSsing today?

[Shadow]

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Believe me I have no fucking clue what he is doing either trying so very desperately to clear my name all the time. As I have posted earlier it only makes me want to lynch him more, and I have tried and failed to do exactly that.

<sigh>

You're not killer #1, killer #2 or recruiter. You had a last fucking minute train start on you because of those posts. I'm demonstrating why those that voted for you are idiots.

Actually, you know what, fuck you. I point out how you can't be scum and you keep wanting to lynch me for it. Get a life.

Remove Vote

Vote Gait

We are ALL idiots here, that's why we were sectioned off into this little subforum to idiot at each other without inflicting our stupid on the general malazites.

This post gave me a much needed chuckle on an otherwise shitty day. I appreciate it.

[Gait]

 Tholen, on 10 June 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

snip

I'm quite confused at the middle part of this case on Shadow..that parts seems to be a case on me..
Either way, at the time BH was claiming that both roles had to of originated in the 8 hour window. I said that was incorrect because as even BH has said in later posts, the role of Killer was going to be awarded in that day, so you can't narrow it down to the 8 hour window, just the role of cult recruiter.

Second, his point wasn't a good one. My posting was related to my time zone, as I explained at the time..repeatedly..That being said, I find it interesting that you choose to say his case was a good one when it was so patently incorrect.

I'd also like to say, that my HP vote was a mistake that I thought would see me lynched..I think you intentionally must that up on the board to implicate me without looking too suspicious..I just don't know why you did it in the middle of a Shadow related post...Or why I didn't get a case on me..So at this moment


VOTE GAIT

( a ) I made no case against shadow, I was (and am, got busy at work) going through people giving my thoughts on them seeing if anything pops out.
( b ) I made no case against you, I simply said that shadows case was fairly well made.
( c ) can you restate "I think you intentionally must that up on the board" because I don't get what you mean there

[Tholen]

 Kessobahn, on 10 June 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

Geez, what's with all the OMGUSsing today?

Damn it! I missed my first opportunity to use that!

[Tholen]

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:

 Tholen, on 10 June 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

snip

I'm quite confused at the middle part of this case on Shadow..that parts seems to be a case on me..
Either way, at the time BH was claiming that both roles had to of originated in the 8 hour window. I said that was incorrect because as even BH has said in later posts, the role of Killer was going to be awarded in that day, so you can't narrow it down to the 8 hour window, just the role of cult recruiter.

Second, his point wasn't a good one. My posting was related to my time zone, as I explained at the time..repeatedly..That being said, I find it interesting that you choose to say his case was a good one when it was so patently incorrect.

I'd also like to say, that my HP vote was a mistake that I thought would see me lynched..I think you intentionally must that up on the board to implicate me without looking too suspicious..I just don't know why you did it in the middle of a Shadow related post...Or why I didn't get a case on me..So at this moment


VOTE GAIT

( a ) I made no case against shadow, I was (and am, got busy at work) going through people giving my thoughts on them seeing if anything pops out.
( b ) I made no case against you, I simply said that shadows case was fairly well made.
( c ) can you restate "I think you intentionally must that up on the board" because I don't get what you mean there

Perhaps, I'm using the word case incorrectly..what I mean is example of someone's scum or lack of scum posting activities..
At a read, to me it seemed like a case for me being scum, in a case for Shadow not being scum..
Honestly, when I made that mistake and HP was lynched, I thought, "Hmm..whoever uses that to implicate me as scum, is probably scum.."

As far as Shadow, in my opinion he has a history of answering question about why someone is lynching them or why Shadow wants someone lynched with what I consider to be inaccurate information..didn't see any of that on his case..Matter of fact, I think Shadow did it to Denesmet yesterday..but as you said you are busy today..


"Intentionally put up on board" I meant, your post made me think your a scum trying to get another towny lynched.

Now that I've said that...lets see how far you can shove my foot in my mouth..

[Bendal Home]

 Tholen, on 10 June 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:

 Tholen, on 10 June 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

snip

I'm quite confused at the middle part of this case on Shadow..that parts seems to be a case on me..
Either way, at the time BH was claiming that both roles had to of originated in the 8 hour window. I said that was incorrect because as even BH has said in later posts, the role of Killer was going to be awarded in that day, so you can't narrow it down to the 8 hour window, just the role of cult recruiter.

Second, his point wasn't a good one. My posting was related to my time zone, as I explained at the time..repeatedly..That being said, I find it interesting that you choose to say his case was a good one when it was so patently incorrect.

I'd also like to say, that my HP vote was a mistake that I thought would see me lynched..I think you intentionally must that up on the board to implicate me without looking too suspicious..I just don't know why you did it in the middle of a Shadow related post...Or why I didn't get a case on me..So at this moment


VOTE GAIT

( a ) I made no case against shadow, I was (and am, got busy at work) going through people giving my thoughts on them seeing if anything pops out.
( b ) I made no case against you, I simply said that shadows case was fairly well made.
( c ) can you restate "I think you intentionally must that up on the board" because I don't get what you mean there

Perhaps, I'm using the word case incorrectly..what I mean is example of someone's scum or lack of scum posting activities..
At a read, to me it seemed like a case for me being scum, in a case for Shadow not being scum..
Honestly, when I made that mistake and HP was lynched, I thought, "Hmm..whoever uses that to implicate me as scum, is probably scum.."

As far as Shadow, in my opinion he has a history of answering question about why someone is lynching them or why Shadow wants someone lynched with what I consider to be inaccurate information..didn't see any of that on his case..Matter of fact, I think Shadow did it to Denesmet yesterday..but as you said you are busy today..


"Intentionally put up on board" I meant, your post made me think your a scum trying to get another towny lynched.

Now that I've said that...lets see how far you can shove my foot in my mouth..

I'd have settled for re-stating it simple by saying must = messed

[Gait]

Yeah it was not my intention to try and get a lynch started on anyone here, just wanted to put my thoughts on thread and maybe get people looking at things a little more closely or clearly.

[Bendal Home]

 Shadow, on 10 June 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 10 June 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Believe me I have no fucking clue what he is doing either trying so very desperately to clear my name all the time. As I have posted earlier it only makes me want to lynch him more, and I have tried and failed to do exactly that.

<sigh>

You're not killer #1, killer #2 or recruiter. You had a last fucking minute train start on you because of those posts. I'm demonstrating why those that voted for you are idiots.

Actually, you know what, fuck you. I point out how you can't be scum and you keep wanting to lynch me for it. Get a life.

Remove Vote

Vote Gait

We are ALL idiots here, that's why we were sectioned off into this little subforum to idiot at each other without inflicting our stupid on the general malazites.

This post gave me a much needed chuckle on an otherwise shitty day. I appreciate it.

Agreed, I'm still a little grumpy form work yesterday though. Must go look at pictures of cats doing silly things or some such

[Gait]

I guess we should all calm down a bit and stop snapping at each other, myself definitely included.

[Denesmet]

Okay, I understand why from Bendal's argument Gait's posts could not have resulted in him being awarded killer, but does that then mean that nothing anyone posts in the final two hours of a day can result in roles/abilities being awarded?


This isn't me attempting to continue pushing the Gait vote, but rather just seeking to clarify that.

[Gait]

 Denesmet, on 10 June 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

Okay, I understand why from Bendal's argument Gait's posts could not have resulted in him being awarded killer, but does that then mean that nothing anyone posts in the final two hours of a day can result in roles/abilities being awarded?


This isn't me attempting to continue pushing the Gait vote, but rather just seeking to clarify that.

PS has said you can still get awards in the final 2 hours.

[Denesmet]

 Tholen, on 10 June 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

 Denesmet, on 10 June 2015 - 10:57 AM, said:

 Eloth, on 10 June 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

 Denesmet, on 10 June 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

Eloth, Lock, Serc - You three should be voting with your first post tomorrow.

make me

Vote Eloth

He did vote. So are you voting him in response to his comment? Gait's collection of posts? None of the above, feel free to supply another reason.

Yes, it was an unhelpful comment. Also, they blatantly only voted because they were called on it. And Eloth's actual reason for voting Gait is more probably simply that they thought Gait had the biggest chance of getting lynched today based on how yesterday ended. Then they disappeared again.

[Denesmet]

 Gait, on 10 June 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

 Denesmet, on 10 June 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

Okay, I understand why from Bendal's argument Gait's posts could not have resulted in him being awarded killer, but does that then mean that nothing anyone posts in the final two hours of a day can result in roles/abilities being awarded?


This isn't me attempting to continue pushing the Gait vote, but rather just seeking to clarify that.

PS has said you can still get awards in the final 2 hours.

Does 'awards' include or exclude roles?