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About the metaphysics of the malazan world

#1 User is offline   Leo Aryanteva 

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Posted 10 April 2015 - 07:03 PM

I've recently read The Bonehunters, so that's why I'm putting this here.

Now, I LOVE metaphhysics in fantasy settings, and this is one with a really deep sense of it. I've managed to form myself an idea of this, mostly based in what Silverfox says to Paran in Memories of Ice, what Onrack says to Trull in House of Chains (when they face the Deragoth statues), and what the dragons says to Cotillion in The Bonehunters. I obviously take details from everywhere, but theese are enogh, I think, to conclude the following.

Which, by the way, is only the fisrt step in what I call "metaphysics" of the malazan world, written in a pseudo-poetic way.

Also, I'm Argentinian, so that's why theres a spanish version of it too:



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Power is chaos

Control is structure, it's order

The meaning bends power, gives structure, gives order

But power lures power

Without structure there's no integrity, only corruption

Pure structure lacks power, lacks life, it's just static integrity

The more bounded a meaning is, therefore, the more integral(the more controlled and thus less risky) the power

All life, therefore, is in part power

All life, therefore, has liberty by default

Liberty isn't the same as power, because power can be controlled; liberty is the effective use of power

That is to say, liberty is a construction a posteriori, it's the effect of controlled power

Without control, therefore, there is no liberty (because pure power cannot be controlled, it's pure chaos)

Order, thus, can be defined as discrimination

Chaos, thus, can corrupt or be counterposed to order, to discrimination

Do not break symbols; they are seals.





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Control es estructura, es orden

El significado moldea el poder, le da estructura, le da orden

Pero el poder atrae al poder

Sin estructura no hay integridad, sólo corrupción

La estructura pura carece de poder, carece de vida, es sólo integridad estática

Cuanto más acotado el significado, por lo tanto, más íntegro (más controlado y por tanto menos riesgoso) el poder

Toda vida, por lo tanto, es en parte poder

Toda vida, por lo tanto, es libre por defecto

La libertad no es idéntica al poder, pues el poder puede ser controlado; la libertad es el uso efectivo del poder

Es decir, la libertad es una construcción a posteriori, es el efecto del poder controlado

Sin control, por lo tanto, no hay libertad (porque el poder puro no se puede controlar, es puro caos)

El orden, entonces, se puede definir como discriminación

El caos, entonces, se puede contraponer o corromper el orden, la discriminación

No rompas símbolos; son sellos.

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Posted 10 April 2015 - 07:48 PM

There are some elements to the next few books that are going to seriously mess with your thinkymeatz, i think.

Interesting breakdown. The last bit, about symbols as seals... is your point that when a symbol is broken, chaos follows?
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Posted 10 April 2015 - 10:29 PM

Power follows; if it's controlled, OK, but if not...
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