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#1 User is offline   Mist 

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 03:53 PM

Hi, just finished MoI and think it's amazing.
Not sure if this has been discussed before, and this is probably explained further in the series.
For what I understand, the ritual on Mhybe has made her the container of a whole new world/warrren/dimension where rhivi, Imass and the Wolf Gods will live, and she will be inmortal. Imo this is excactly what Burn is, and the all the events we are reading are taking place in the world within Burn. This makes me think that therefore, Burn is, like Mhybe, sleeping in another higher dimension world... Not sure I express myself correctly.

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 07:29 PM

View PostMist, on 14 March 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

Hi, just finished MoI and think it's amazing.
Not sure if this has been discussed before, and this is probably explained further in the series.
For what I understand, the ritual on Mhybe has made her the container of a whole new world/warrren/dimension where rhivi, Imass and the Wolf Gods will live, and she will be inmortal. Imo this is excactly what Burn is, and the all the events we are reading are taking place in the world within Burn. This makes me think that therefore, Burn is, like Mhybe, sleeping in another higher dimension world... Not sure I express myself correctly.


Wasn't it Coll who exclaimed 'just how many sleeping old women are there?' or something to that effect, lol. Guess he was thinking along the same lines!

Edit: it was Murillio :sofa:

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 10:48 PM

it is possible. But that would be too much of a "this was all a dream" trope.
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:10 AM

From what we get in MoI (IIRC) it seems like the accepted myth is that the world exists within Burn's dreams. This doesn't necessarily mean that if she's awake the world ends - the calendar system of Burn's Sleep is, after all, just over a millenia old. But I guess if she died, the myth says the world ends, hence the threat of the Crippled God poisoning her in MoI.

However, this may not be the whole truth. Certainly it seems as if Burn is, sort of, the physical world - I think in GotM Raest quests down and notices the sleeping goddess at the centre, and decides not to possess her, and I remember other references in MoI to e.g. lava being the blood of Burn or something - but there are also other creation myths explaining the world (non-spoilery spoiler: the Tiste creation myth). And this one too has quite a few obvious elements of truth that feature in the books. I think somehow, Burn is a god who aspected herself to the world, and the players in the world are unsure how far this link goes e.g. is it figurative or literal?
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:43 AM

Also it's all a metaphor for being an author.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
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Posted 16 March 2015 - 10:10 PM

Well, will have to keep pushing to find out more...
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