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Mafia 119 - Fate/Decim - Celestial Thread

#501 User is offline   Messremb 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:08 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

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View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:52 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.


You lied last time so why would we believe you now?


What do you mean? I haven't lied once.


Tatts - I'd appreciate a response to this. I'd really like to know what you think I lied about.


The whole Fener debacle. Claiming he was yours when in fact he wasn't.

You put runes on the tower though, is that right?


Fener was mine, so do with that as you will. Whether you believe me or not is of no consequence to me, but as I've said, I haven't lied about a thing, so....



He come up as a civilian.

Thought on Rikkter and Aparal Forge?


Go back to the other thread and read the full scene.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:10 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:52 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.


You lied last time so why would we believe you now?


What do you mean? I haven't lied once.


Tatts - I'd appreciate a response to this. I'd really like to know what you think I lied about.


The whole Fener debacle. Claiming he was yours when in fact he wasn't.

You put runes on the tower though, is that right?


Fener was mine, so do with that as you will. Whether you believe me or not is of no consequence to me, but as I've said, I haven't lied about a thing, so....



He come up as a civilian.

Thought on Rikkter and Aparal Forge?



Read Fener's lynch scene, Tatts. That 'civilian' was being controlled by something at the time (i.e. Blend).
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:10 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:52 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.


You lied last time so why would we believe you now?


What do you mean? I haven't lied once.


Tatts - I'd appreciate a response to this. I'd really like to know what you think I lied about.


The whole Fener debacle. Claiming he was yours when in fact he wasn't.

You put runes on the tower though, is that right?


Fener was mine, so do with that as you will. Whether you believe me or not is of no consequence to me, but as I've said, I haven't lied about a thing, so....



He come up as a civilian.

Thought on Rikkter and Aparal Forge?


To be fair, I never said he was my servant, I wouldn't out my servant on thread. But Fener was definitely mine.

I'm reading up on the Rikkter/Aparal Forge thing, trying to make sense of what the issue with them is supposed to be.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:10 PM

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:04 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Aparal Forge


It's my birthday tomorrow, could do with a little less angst directed my way.

Edit: inserted less


Happy Birthday!

There are guards, healers, finders amongst those new alts. Would you want to lynch a healer?


And you claim they're nothing to do with you. Yes, yes I would love to lynch a healer, guard or a finder. Because they aren't MY healer/guard/finder. This is last man standing dude.


lynching a healer doesn't mean you can kill someone though. Lynching that person does.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:04 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Aparal Forge


It's my birthday tomorrow, could do with a little less angst directed my way.

Edit: inserted less


Happy Birthday!

There are guards, healers, finders amongst those new alts. Would you want to lynch a healer?


And you claim they're nothing to do with you. Yes, yes I would love to lynch a healer, guard or a finder. Because they aren't MY healer/guard/finder. This is last man standing dude.


lynching a healer doesn't mean you can kill someone though. Lynching that person does.


A healer will be targeting its master/servant. Therefore making them harder to kill. Why would I let you make yourself harder to kill?
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM

Key points regarding Rikkter and Aparal Forge.

Messremb wanted to lynch Gait (who was a new alt)
I said he chose this alt because it was dangerous for Mess personally (ie in his location, Golems come up as hostile)
I asked Gait for list of alts in his location.
The ones left are Rikkter and Aparal
Mess initially tried to claim Sorrit as his Servant.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.



Why is Tulas Shorn also not a suspect then?
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:16 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.



Why is Tulas Shorn also not a suspect then?


Tulas Shorn is dead, he was killed Night 1.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:17 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Key points regarding Rikkter and Aparal Forge.

Messremb wanted to lynch Gait (who was a new alt)
I said he chose this alt because it was dangerous for Mess personally (ie in his location, Golems come up as hostile)
I asked Gait for list of alts in his location.
The ones left are Rikkter and Aparal
Mess initially tried to claim Sorrit as his Servant.


The thing is, though, I think Gait is a Golem, and that the Golems belong to you, so my willingness to trust anything coming from Gait's mouth is about as big my willingness to trust anything coming out of yours or Khell's! :D
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:19 PM

I'm going to go ahead and

Vote Aparal Forge


I'll vote Rikkter after AF's lynch goes through.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:19 PM

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 04:16 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.



Why is Tulas Shorn also not a suspect then?


Tulas Shorn is dead, he was killed Night 1.



Ah yes. Must needs pay more attention.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.



Why is Tulas Shorn also not a suspect then?



We are back to this. Why would Blend include his own alt in the list? Blend claims to have blown up the tower. That means he must have been at the airport one day but he is not going to let us know which alt did it. Fener may have been the trigger but the runes had to be put there by someone.

Unless Blend, are you able to destroy sigils?
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM

So why has Gait said Atrahal is at their location when Atrahal is dead? (*question addressed to nobody in particular*)
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:22 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

For the record, the following alts have been at Roji Airport over the last two days:

Fener
Tulas Shorn
Mockra
Pran Chole
Shadow
Hidden Presence

So the only suspects I have for the tower would be either Mockra or the hidden presence.



Why is Tulas Shorn also not a suspect then?



We are back to this. Why would Blend include his own alt in the list? Blend claims to have blown up the tower. That means he must have been at the airport one day but he is not going to let us know which alt did it. Fener may have been the trigger but the runes had to be put there by someone.

Unless Blend, are you able to destroy sigils?


I've already said this, but I was told that Fener could see a tower, and was told that I could perform actions (guard, heal, etc.) against the tower. Fener vigged the tower, which made it explode. The runes were the magic that made the tower stand out to me, so I'm assuming that whoever put the tower up (I'm still thinking Khell or Tappper) is whoever put the runes there.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:23 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

So why has Gait said Atrahal is at their location when Atrahal is dead? (*question addressed to nobody in particular*)


At a guess because Gait got their information at the start of the Day but forgot those who died needed to be removed...?
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:24 PM

View PostBlend, on 17 March 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Key points regarding Rikkter and Aparal Forge.

Messremb wanted to lynch Gait (who was a new alt)
I said he chose this alt because it was dangerous for Mess personally (ie in his location, Golems come up as hostile)
I asked Gait for list of alts in his location.
The ones left are Rikkter and Aparal
Mess initially tried to claim Sorrit as his Servant.


The thing is, though, I think Gait is a Golem, and that the Golems belong to you, so my willingness to trust anything coming from Gait's mouth is about as big my willingness to trust anything coming out of yours or Khell's! :D



Gait is not mine.

Regardless of this fact, if you think Gait is a Golem ( which I do too) then Golems show up to people in their location. So if you have an extra alt in your location that is not showing as hostile then that is what is known as a hommunculus. I'm stepping off topic.

The fact that Mess chose to lynch Gait over ALL the other news alts makes me believe he is in the same location as Gait. Therefore, he knows Gait is a hostile.

Now Gait has revealed alts in his location. So this is a chance to eliminate a master.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:24 PM

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

So why has Gait said Atrahal is at their location when Atrahal is dead? (*question addressed to nobody in particular*)


At a guess because Gait got their information at the start of the Day but forgot those who died needed to be removed...?



But Atrahal was at Mount Ryu, no? Does that mean that Gait is also at Mount Ryu, but didn't die when the Golem exploded, along with several other alts?
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:26 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

So why has Gait said Atrahal is at their location when Atrahal is dead? (*question addressed to nobody in particular*)


At a guess because Gait got their information at the start of the Day but forgot those who died needed to be removed...?



But Atrahal was at Mount Ryu, no? Does that mean that Gait is also at Mount Ryu, but didn't die when the Golem exploded, along with several other alts?


Protection. Mechanics at play.
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:27 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

So why has Gait said Atrahal is at their location when Atrahal is dead? (*question addressed to nobody in particular*)


At a guess because Gait got their information at the start of the Day but forgot those who died needed to be removed...?



But Atrahal was at Mount Ryu, no? Does that mean that Gait is also at Mount Ryu, but didn't die when the Golem exploded, along with several other alts?



And also, why would Gait say Atrahal is there, but not include the other alts which were also at Mt Ryu and died?
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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:27 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 17 March 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 17 March 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 17 March 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

So why has Gait said Atrahal is at their location when Atrahal is dead? (*question addressed to nobody in particular*)


At a guess because Gait got their information at the start of the Day but forgot those who died needed to be removed...?



But Atrahal was at Mount Ryu, no? Does that mean that Gait is also at Mount Ryu, but didn't die when the Golem exploded, along with several other alts?


Protection. Mechanics at play.


He's doing so well convincing himself, don't try to derail.

Vote Aparal FTW!
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