[theocean]

When does T'amber get "used" by the Eres'al? Is it for the entire trip with the bonehunters or just in that last run through thre city?

[Andorion]

Blanking on this, so I am going to guess..... the Eres'al proably manifested first after Y'Ghatan? it was definitely there on the sea trip to Malaz. If I had to pick a time, I will say sea trip, though I am probably wrong.

[theocean]

I know she helped the QB and all against the Edur but i thought that was basically through bottle. I just dont know if she had T'amber from the very beginning, took her over during that little magic show, or was just there for the finale in the city.

[Gorefest]

T'Amber was already there at the start of Deadhouse Gates (she shows up alongside Tavore when Felisin, Heboric and Baudin walk through the streets to the prisoner ship headed for the Otataral mines).

Oh wait, that wasn't what you asked, was it?

This post has been edited by Gorefest: 18 February 2015 - 05:08 PM

[theocean]

It could be she was under her control from the moment we see her. I just don't recall if there was something I missed. I don't ever see much about tamer and she was a beast that night.

[Abyss]

Two possibilities....

She was with T'amber at least since Tavore became Adjunct; or she started travelling with Tamber after the confrontation with the Edur fleet.

Given Tavore's complete lack of surprise at Tamber's resilience during the run through the city and the Eres'al's appearance at the end, i lean towards the longer option.

[Wolfdrop]

On a reread I thought she was there from the start. Most of the "elder" entities have an apostrophe after their first letter, D'rek, T'riss, K'rul etc. it might be a bit of a tenuous link but that was my theory. In one of the video interviews with SE on YouTube someone asks him a question about how the apostrophes are supposed to be pronounced and he replied that the apostrophe is used to denote something In the past, when referring to Imass, so it could probably work for Eres'al (apostrophe again). For the rest it's just a glottal stop, but once you see how many "past" things have the apostrophe in them it makes me think it was deliberate.

[theocean]

 Wolfdrop, on 19 February 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

On a reread I thought she was there from the start. Most of the "elder" entities have an apostrophe after their first letter, D'rek, T'riss, K'rul etc. it might be a bit of a tenuous link but that was my theory. In one of the video interviews with SE on YouTube someone asks him a question about how the apostrophes are supposed to be pronounced and he replied that the apostrophe is used to denote something In the past, when referring to Imass, so it could probably work for Eres'al (apostrophe again). For the rest it's just a glottal stop, but once you see how many "past" things have the apostrophe in them it makes me think it was deliberate.

didn't even think of that at all. Makes some sense though.

[Spoilsport Stonny]

Just her name, T'amber, is evidence of their relationship with all the savannah, grassland-like symbolism of the Eres'al. It couldn't have happened until the blessing of the Nerek in MT reawakened her though. So somewhere starting there, I would believe. hell, she could even be Nerek, which would explain

Spoiler

Tavore's knowledge of Lether

. The Eres'al's relationship with the Nerek could also explain why she took an active role against the Edur.

Ah, the never-ending webbed tapestry of threads....

This post has been edited by Spoilsport Stonny: 20 February 2015 - 12:31 PM

[theocean]

It is stated though that Tavore wasnt aware of the "possesion" right, Grub tells Yil that she can never tell her, correct?

[Spoilsport Stonny]

That was the Sha'ik possession. Not the T'Amber possession.