[Pallid]

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:29 AM, said:

Snape kills Dumbbledore

Also, Dumbledore was Bruce Willis all along.


Who knows, maybe we got something here.

Vote Tennes

[Tholen]

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list.

rep post game

[Korbas]

Pallid, on 10 February 2015 - 12:42 AM, said:

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:29 AM, said:

Snape kills Dumbbledore

Also, Dumbledore was Bruce Willis all along.


Who knows, maybe we got something here.

Vote Tennes

So that would make it an "evil Kirk" version of Die Hard. Alan Rickman shots Bruce wilis, who then falls from the tower. Makes sense.

Vote Tennes

[Venesara]

Ampelas, on 09 February 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 09 February 2015 - 07:12 PM, said:

Tennes, on 09 February 2015 - 05:59 PM, said:

back to the subject at hand, namely of us being the bad guys;

Welp, easiest game ever?

I haven't seen that happen in a long time. Slips happen though.


Vote Tennes

I personally think the person starting the vote is stretching. Claws are bad guys after all.

Vote Amplelas

[Venesara]

The rest of the votes seem like people jumping in on the only excitement of the day. Tho, I wouldn't be surprised if the scummy good guys are already represented on the train...

[Korbas]

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:35 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 09 February 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 09 February 2015 - 07:12 PM, said:

Tennes, on 09 February 2015 - 05:59 PM, said:

back to the subject at hand, namely of us being the bad guys;

Welp, easiest game ever?

I haven't seen that happen in a long time. Slips happen though.


Vote Tennes

I personally think the person starting the vote is stretching. Claws are bad guys after all.

Vote Amplelas

Quote

Town are the Claw][/size]

Quoted from PS

Some people seam to be missing this for some reason.

[Venesara]

Not at all. I know the bad guys are town this game. It's a reversal since there are limited good guys in this scenario.

[Tulas Shorn]

I took Tennes' post as jokey... It is possible that it's a slip, but I'm wondering how that would actually happen. Did he forget he wasn't meant to mention it, or what? We've got to wonder why he'd post that I suppose, but his explanation doesn't really seem farfetched to me. I agree with Venesara that the case seems like a stretch. I also think the train has raised a couple of things worth looking at. Firstly, the fact that it has garnered a good number of votes at this point, where people still haven't even checked in, is a bit strange in itself. Secondly, the fact that most of those votes are just "Sure, ok, cool" and then hopping on the train. This sort of thing doesn't provide much info on thread, and seems like people are looking for an excuse to lay down a vote, look active, without really telling us anything -- no comment on how likely they think that sort of slip is, or on Tennes' reaction, or anything. It's similar to the problem with people "voting to get a lynch", except that we're super early in the day so there's no excuse for it. Thirdly, these two posts caught my eye:

Ultama, on 09 February 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yep. looks like a slip followed by some good old scrambled eggs.

Ultama agrees that it looks like a slip and follows it up with...nope, nothing. It struck me as a little odd, though given how early it is, not so much as the next one.

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list.

I think a show of hands is order, How many think he should voted off the Island first? Hands up. Hands up. anybody?

Korbas seems purely like he's testing the waters before committing to his vote. He then does vote, after someone else joins the train.

Vote Korbas

Because I don't like that you seem more concerned with where the consensus lies than with what you actually think is scummy, when voting. Especially when it is so early, and the train you're discussing already has more people going for it that most trains normally do at this point.

[Tholen]

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:37 AM, said:

The rest of the votes seem like people jumping in on the only excitement of the day. Tho, I wouldn't be surprised if the scummy good guys are already represented on the train...

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:55 AM, said:

Not at all. I know the bad guys are town this game. It's a reversal since there are limited good guys in this scenario.

Are you trying to cover the original slip by clouding the good guy bad guy dynamic?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 22 hours 11 minutes remaining.

There are 14 players left alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Korbas, Mockra, Omtose, Pallid, Rikkter, Silanah, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara

2 votes Korbas: Tennes, Tulas Shorn
4 votes Tennes: Ampelas, Tholen, Pallid, Korbas
1 vote Ampelas: Venesara


Players not voted: Alkend, Mockra, Omtose, Rikkter, Silanah, Tiamatha, Ultama

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 10 February 2015 - 02:24 PM

[Korbas]

Tulas Shorn, on 10 February 2015 - 02:53 AM, said:

I took Tennes' post as jokey... It is possible that it's a slip, but I'm wondering how that would actually happen. Did he forget he wasn't meant to mention it, or what? We've got to wonder why he'd post that I suppose, but his explanation doesn't really seem farfetched to me. I agree with Venesara that the case seems like a stretch. I also think the train has raised a couple of things worth looking at. Firstly, the fact that it has garnered a good number of votes at this point, where people still haven't even checked in, is a bit strange in itself. Secondly, the fact that most of those votes are just "Sure, ok, cool" and then hopping on the train. This sort of thing doesn't provide much info on thread, and seems like people are looking for an excuse to lay down a vote, look active, without really telling us anything -- no comment on how likely they think that sort of slip is, or on Tennes' reaction, or anything. It's similar to the problem with people "voting to get a lynch", except that we're super early in the day so there's no excuse for it. Thirdly, these two posts caught my eye:

Ultama, on 09 February 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yep. looks like a slip followed by some good old scrambled eggs.

Ultama agrees that it looks like a slip and follows it up with...nope, nothing. It struck me as a little odd, though given how early it is, not so much as the next one.

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list.

I think a show of hands is order, How many think he should voted off the Island first? Hands up. Hands up. anybody?

Korbas seems purely like he's testing the waters before committing to his vote. He then does vote, after someone else joins the train.

Vote Korbas

Because I don't like that you seem more concerned with where the consensus lies than with what you actually think is scummy, when voting. Especially when it is so early, and the train you're discussing already has more people going for it that most trains normally do at this point.

The chances of a day one lynch going through are very low. If you couldn't tell I was playing with the "hand thing, you really need to get out more. The only thing slightly of interest, was the possibility that he was trying to play at being town.

[Rikkter]

Tholen, on 10 February 2015 - 02:57 AM, said:

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:37 AM, said:

The rest of the votes seem like people jumping in on the only excitement of the day. Tho, I wouldn't be surprised if the scummy good guys are already represented on the train...

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:55 AM, said:

Not at all. I know the bad guys are town this game. It's a reversal since there are limited good guys in this scenario.

Are you trying to cover the original slip by clouding the good guy bad guy dynamic?

Is there really a bad guy good guy dynamic? People seem to be confusing the usual correlations of Mafia with the dynamics of Malazan.
Frankly this entire train seems to be the product of having nothing else to gon, on the first day.

Having said that, this kind of stuff can sometimes produce good info for use later

[Venesara]

Tholen, on 10 February 2015 - 02:57 AM, said:

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:37 AM, said:

The rest of the votes seem like people jumping in on the only excitement of the day. Tho, I wouldn't be surprised if the scummy good guys are already represented on the train...

Venesara, on 10 February 2015 - 01:55 AM, said:

Not at all. I know the bad guys are town this game. It's a reversal since there are limited good guys in this scenario.

Are you trying to cover the original slip by clouding the good guy bad guy dynamic?

Hardly. Just trying to nail down one of the scummy people on the train. Plus, I won't vote for Tennes just for that reason. Seems kind of stupid to me.

[Tulas Shorn]

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 03:15 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 10 February 2015 - 02:53 AM, said:

I took Tennes' post as jokey... It is possible that it's a slip, but I'm wondering how that would actually happen. Did he forget he wasn't meant to mention it, or what? We've got to wonder why he'd post that I suppose, but his explanation doesn't really seem farfetched to me. I agree with Venesara that the case seems like a stretch. I also think the train has raised a couple of things worth looking at. Firstly, the fact that it has garnered a good number of votes at this point, where people still haven't even checked in, is a bit strange in itself. Secondly, the fact that most of those votes are just "Sure, ok, cool" and then hopping on the train. This sort of thing doesn't provide much info on thread, and seems like people are looking for an excuse to lay down a vote, look active, without really telling us anything -- no comment on how likely they think that sort of slip is, or on Tennes' reaction, or anything. It's similar to the problem with people "voting to get a lynch", except that we're super early in the day so there's no excuse for it. Thirdly, these two posts caught my eye:

Ultama, on 09 February 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yep. looks like a slip followed by some good old scrambled eggs.

Ultama agrees that it looks like a slip and follows it up with...nope, nothing. It struck me as a little odd, though given how early it is, not so much as the next one.

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list.

I think a show of hands is order, How many think he should voted off the Island first? Hands up. Hands up. anybody?

Korbas seems purely like he's testing the waters before committing to his vote. He then does vote, after someone else joins the train.

Vote Korbas

Because I don't like that you seem more concerned with where the consensus lies than with what you actually think is scummy, when voting. Especially when it is so early, and the train you're discussing already has more people going for it that most trains normally do at this point.

The chances of a day one lynch going through are very low. If you couldn't tell I was playing with the "hand thing, you really need to get out more. The only thing slightly of interest, was the possibility that he was trying to play at being town.

I'm just not sure I buy that there's no ulterior motive, that you're just making a joke that coincidentally happens to be testing interest in a particular vote, as opposed to forcing the jokes in order to test the water. Especially given the timing of your vote...If you weren't genuinely testing the water, why not vote him at that point? What changes in the intervening time that makes you decide to vote Tennes when you do, instead of voting him when you ask for the show of hands?

[Korbas]

Tulas Shorn, on 10 February 2015 - 04:18 AM, said:

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 03:15 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 10 February 2015 - 02:53 AM, said:

I took Tennes' post as jokey... It is possible that it's a slip, but I'm wondering how that would actually happen. Did he forget he wasn't meant to mention it, or what? We've got to wonder why he'd post that I suppose, but his explanation doesn't really seem farfetched to me. I agree with Venesara that the case seems like a stretch. I also think the train has raised a couple of things worth looking at. Firstly, the fact that it has garnered a good number of votes at this point, where people still haven't even checked in, is a bit strange in itself. Secondly, the fact that most of those votes are just "Sure, ok, cool" and then hopping on the train. This sort of thing doesn't provide much info on thread, and seems like people are looking for an excuse to lay down a vote, look active, without really telling us anything -- no comment on how likely they think that sort of slip is, or on Tennes' reaction, or anything. It's similar to the problem with people "voting to get a lynch", except that we're super early in the day so there's no excuse for it. Thirdly, these two posts caught my eye:

Ultama, on 09 February 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yep. looks like a slip followed by some good old scrambled eggs.

Ultama agrees that it looks like a slip and follows it up with...nope, nothing. It struck me as a little odd, though given how early it is, not so much as the next one.

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list.

I think a show of hands is order, How many think he should voted off the Island first? Hands up. Hands up. anybody?

Korbas seems purely like he's testing the waters before committing to his vote. He then does vote, after someone else joins the train.

Vote Korbas

Because I don't like that you seem more concerned with where the consensus lies than with what you actually think is scummy, when voting. Especially when it is so early, and the train you're discussing already has more people going for it that most trains normally do at this point.

The chances of a day one lynch going through are very low. If you couldn't tell I was playing with the "hand thing, you really need to get out more. The only thing slightly of interest, was the possibility that he was trying to play at being town.

I'm just not sure I buy that there's no ulterior motive, that you're just making a joke that coincidentally happens to be testing interest in a particular vote, as opposed to forcing the jokes in order to test the water. Especially given the timing of your vote...If you weren't genuinely testing the water, why not vote him at that point? What changes in the intervening time that makes you decide to vote Tennes when you do, instead of voting him when you ask for the show of hands?

It was more of a kinda "fuck it" moment. Adding to the train is bringing out more players, more discussion, more stuff to go over tomorrow.

[Alkend]

Voting Tennes is jumping at nonsense in my opinion. If Tennes is killer that's not a slip, but rather hall of fame worthy idiocy.

Fast and loose isn't usual scum style, but careful reading and manipulation. Look for someone NOT voting for Tennes and laughing into their sleeve.

[Tennes]

Tulas Shorn, on 10 February 2015 - 02:53 AM, said:

I took Tennes' post as jokey... It is possible that it's a slip, but I'm wondering how that would actually happen. Did he forget he wasn't meant to mention it, or what? We've got to wonder why he'd post that I suppose, but his explanation doesn't really seem farfetched to me. I agree with Venesara that the case seems like a stretch. I also think the train has raised a couple of things worth looking at. Firstly, the fact that it has garnered a good number of votes at this point, where people still haven't even checked in, is a bit strange in itself. Secondly, the fact that most of those votes are just "Sure, ok, cool" and then hopping on the train. This sort of thing doesn't provide much info on thread, and seems like people are looking for an excuse to lay down a vote, look active, without really telling us anything -- no comment on how likely they think that sort of slip is, or on Tennes' reaction, or anything. It's similar to the problem with people "voting to get a lynch", except that we're super early in the day so there's no excuse for it. Thirdly, these two posts caught my eye:

Ultama, on 09 February 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Yep. looks like a slip followed by some good old scrambled eggs.

Ultama agrees that it looks like a slip and follows it up with...nope, nothing. It struck me as a little odd, though given how early it is, not so much as the next one.

Korbas, on 10 February 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list.

I think a show of hands is order, How many think he should voted off the Island first? Hands up. Hands up. anybody?

Korbas seems purely like he's testing the waters before committing to his vote. He then does vote, after someone else joins the train.

Vote Korbas

Because I don't like that you seem more concerned with where the consensus lies than with what you actually think is scummy, when voting. Especially when it is so early, and the train you're discussing already has more people going for it that most trains normally do at this point.

Also worth noting that this all came swiftly on the heels of me actually voting for Korbas.

BTW PS, why does Korbas have two separate instances of 1 vote each in your post?

[Tennes]

As for everyone else;

What do you think is more likely: (a) Someone thinks the claw is evil or ( Someone outs themselves as scum on page 1

[Ultama]

To me it looks like some people are coming to Tennes defense whereas Tennes has left the building hoping that the heat will die down.

Reason I didn't vote before and/or now is I was hoping to see something better materialise.

in terms of why could it have been a slip Tulas is because there are at least 3 players playing that have never been scum before. 3 newish players anyhow.

So Tennes could have slipped, argued against it being a slip and then quieted right down when the votes started coming in.

[Ultama]

Tennes, on 10 February 2015 - 07:40 AM, said:

As for everyone else;

What do you think is more likely: (a) Someone thinks the claw is evil or ( Someone outs themselves as scum on page 1

If you were part of the claw would you see yourself as evil bad?