Ok, firstly, I'm going to consider the votes on the Mockra train (other than my own). So, starting with Omtose:
Omtose, on 11 February 2015 - 01:40 PM, said:
I'm pretty happy voting Mockra. Their justification for voting Tennes over Korbas and then Tulas today does not hold up at all.
Vote Mockra
I don't really have any issue with Omtose's vote. He sums up the issue with Mockra (also, he'd initially pointed out that Mockra's vote on Korbas looked odd, so it's not like he's just adding nothing), and also adds that he doesn't like Mockra's OMGUS vote. The only thing with it that's slightly out of the ordrinary is that since he's the initial person pointing out the oddness of Mockra's vote, we might expect him to be the first vote on the train. In this case, I don't think it's especially odd. His initial post comes like 5 minutes into the day, for starters, and between that post and his vote, the case did develop with my post and Mockra's OMGUS vote.
I think Ampelas' vote is more worth looking at. It's the vote that swings Mockra to being the leading train:
Ampelas, on 11 February 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:
Right now I think scum is anyone from Omtose on at the end of the train, mockra and alkend.
Of all of that I like Mockra for my vote. Because the Tennes train had died down while the Korabas train had picked up steam. Mockra's vote seemed like an attempt to derail Korabas's train and try to get the momentum to switch.
Vote Mockra
I think someone else picked up already that he doesn't mention Tholen outright; it's worth remembering that Tholen here is amongst his candidates for scum in his first line. He says that he likes Mockra most for his vote, but doesn't mention why he prefers him to say, Tholen, the other train going. What also struck me (as I vaguely referred to yesterday), is that his vote here is essentially just a re-iteration of the case on Mockra. They're fine points, but he's not actually adding anything new. It can be summarised as "Of all of that I like Mockra for my vote. Because [the case on Mockra]". Which isn't really an explanation for
why he prefers it to the other candidates he mentions. He apparently prefers Mockra to the others, except that's a
comparative judgement, and since he doesn't mention what he thinks about cases on the other candidates, it doesn't actually explain his vote at all.
Onto the next vote, which is Tholen hopping on shortly afterwards, with this:
Tholen, on 11 February 2015 - 10:51 PM, said:
bah. You are starting to appear trollish.
Vote Mockra
Really not the most in depth vote justification ever. It moves Mockra to 4 votes. There could easily be an element of self-preservation here.
Mockra then votes himself. Then we have Pallid:
Pallid, on 12 February 2015 - 12:20 AM, said:
Unfortunately for you, I don't see any spectacular shift to someone else this late. Plus, all the talking and the self vote might a last resort attempt for you.
Vote Mockra
I think thats 6 votes?
This just seems to be hopping on to the going train. He doesn't see it shifting anywhere else, so it's almost phrased as "voting to get a lynch", with an afterthought justification about his self voting. He also seems pretty aware that he's put him on L-1. There's something like 12 hours left at this point. It maybe wouldn't be an od vote if in fact it was a bit more "this late" than it actually was.
A quick rundown of people who were posted in those 12 hours, up until 1pm today (which would've been the time limit):
Mockra, Tennes, Venesara, Tulas Shorn, Tholen, Omtose, Rikkter, Alkend.
Lynching elsewhere probably wasn't an impossibility here.
Tennes then hammers:
Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:
Vote Mockra
Nothing has happened to change my mind about Mockra. Lets find out what he is.
It is worth noting he's consistent here, as he'd earlier said:
Tennes, on 11 February 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:
Ultama, on 11 February 2015 - 10:15 AM, said:
If Mockra did not want to vote Tennes why does that make him scummy? Or is it because he didn't want to vote him initially but ended up doing it anyway ergo avoiding the Korbas lynch?
Pretty much that.
Mockra felt initially that the case on me was just "day 1 nonsense" but then later in the day Mockra votes me instead of Korbas with no other justification or saying he changed his mind from considering the case on me "nonsense". To get a lynch possibly, but this is after purposefully ignoring the case Tulas made, and quotes my joke post as the only reason anyone could possible be voting for Korbas. This and other things lead me to strongly suspect the scum do know each other, and that Mockra should be next.
Which is when Mockra has 1 vote. We might question why he doesn't vote at this point, if he thinks Mockra should be next, why not pull his train level with Tholen's? Similarly with Pallid, we might question why he hammers (and seems aware that he's hammering), with so long left.
Anyhow, that's a bit of analysis on the Mockra train. There are lots of dubious votes there; the middle three in particular (Ampelas, Tholen, Pallid), seem hard to choose between for which I think is worst. Tennes seems a bit less dodgy to me, on account of giving justification to his vote via having mentioned it earlier, at a point where it wasn't just hopping on the main train, and Omtose seeming fine.
I'm going to go pick out a couple of other votes.