[cerveza_fiesta]

Definitely possible. It's conceivable that I could pin him on this move. Interceptor to the GC => cruiser to his dread hex, but I don't think I want an alliance that badly (sorry).

besides, he could pretty easily just build another and move it -- he definitely has resources for it -- and then I'd be stuck deciding whether to commit my fleet against his dreads.

He's also not be wasting his dread. You have 12 shots, of which 5 need to hit, and he has missile shields. He would win and have a very decent chance of beating the ancient too.

[Imperial Historian]

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

Definitely possible. It's conceivable that I could pin him on this move. Interceptor to the GC => cruiser to his dread hex, but I don't think I want an alliance that badly (sorry).

besides, he could pretty easily just build another and move it -- he definitely has resources for it -- and then I'd be stuck deciding whether to commit my fleet against his dreads.

He's also not be wasting his dread. You have 12 shots, of which 5 need to hit, and he has missile shields. He would win and have a very decent chance of beating the ancient too.

The GC pins everything so you couldn't do that.

Edit: and he needs 6 hits to destroy my dread, don't undersell it

[cerveza_fiesta]

Gnaw, I should be at 8 money, not 7.


had 0 at end of last round and got 8 from the discovery.

[Tattersail_]

IH has 6 hp minus 2 computers for my missiles but not cannons. 12 shots fired. Odds are good I'd get 2 6s minimum. Leaves 4 hp. Nova burst would leave 3 hp. I get 2 cannon shots with +2 computers. He'd get 2 shots with +1 computer.
Say I retreat at 4 hp his initiative is worse than the ancient so he'd have to hit me first and then try to retreat. Ancients would fire IH puts in retreat order. Ancients fire again because they have initiative. Chances are IH would lose the dread.

Next round he can upgrade tech to be more scary and possibly have Tappers help.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Imperial Historian, on 11 March 2015 - 03:55 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

Definitely possible. It's conceivable that I could pin him on this move. Interceptor to the GC => cruiser to his dread hex, but I don't think I want an alliance that badly (sorry).

besides, he could pretty easily just build another and move it -- he definitely has resources for it -- and then I'd be stuck deciding whether to commit my fleet against his dreads.

He's also not be wasting his dread. You have 12 shots, of which 5 need to hit, and he has missile shields. He would win and have a very decent chance of beating the ancient too.

The GC pins everything so you couldn't do that.

Oh, didn't know that. Shows how many times I have fought the GC.

Could conceivably move through the ancient homeworld in the same way I guess.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Tattersail_, on 11 March 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

IH has 6 hp minus 2 computers for my missiles but not cannons. 12 shots fired. Odds are good I'd get 2 6s minimum. Leaves 4 hp. Nova burst would leave 3 hp. I get 2 cannon shots with +2 computers. He'd get 2 shots with +1 computer.
Say I retreat at 4 hp his initiative is worse than the ancient so he'd have to hit me first and then try to retreat. Ancients would fire IH puts in retreat order. Ancients fire again because they have initiative. Chances are IH would lose the dread.

Next round he can upgrade tech to be more scary and possibly have Tappers help.

umm so you are going to join their alliance then?

This post has been edited by cerveza_fiesta: 11 March 2015 - 04:00 PM

[Tattersail_]

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 March 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

IH has 6 hp minus 2 computers for my missiles but not cannons. 12 shots fired. Odds are good I'd get 2 6s minimum. Leaves 4 hp. Nova burst would leave 3 hp. I get 2 cannon shots with +2 computers. He'd get 2 shots with +1 computer.
Say I retreat at 4 hp his initiative is worse than the ancient so he'd have to hit me first and then try to retreat. Ancients would fire IH puts in retreat order. Ancients fire again because they have initiative. Chances are IH would lose the dread.

Next round he can upgrade tech to be more scary and possibly have Tappers help.

umm so you are going to join their alliance then?

What. How did you get to that conclusion?

IH is this something you've thought about?

You're all scumbags haha.

[twelve]

This is why this game is sooo much fun. Also it's way better with people than against the AI. I downloaded the eclipse game on my wife's Ipad and have clocked a fair number of games now. The computer does some very stupid moves. Like almost never defending the GC with starbases, moving more than they can afford and lose production only to reinfluence the very next move. Never reacting. Seriously that has to be it's biggest weakness. Even when they have money left to afford a reaction it just doesn't do it.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 11 March 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

IH has 6 hp minus 2 computers for my missiles but not cannons. 12 shots fired. Odds are good I'd get 2 6s minimum. Leaves 4 hp. Nova burst would leave 3 hp. I get 2 cannon shots with +2 computers. He'd get 2 shots with +1 computer.
Say I retreat at 4 hp his initiative is worse than the ancient so he'd have to hit me first and then try to retreat. Ancients would fire IH puts in retreat order. Ancients fire again because they have initiative. Chances are IH would lose the dread.

Next round he can upgrade tech to be more scary and possibly have Tappers help.

So 1 in 9 I destroy both your dreads, one in 3 I destroy 1 and about 30% odds of survival. I'd take those odds

[cerveza_fiesta]

Tattersail_, on 11 March 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 March 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

IH has 6 hp minus 2 computers for my missiles but not cannons. 12 shots fired. Odds are good I'd get 2 6s minimum. Leaves 4 hp. Nova burst would leave 3 hp. I get 2 cannon shots with +2 computers. He'd get 2 shots with +1 computer.
Say I retreat at 4 hp his initiative is worse than the ancient so he'd have to hit me first and then try to retreat. Ancients would fire IH puts in retreat order. Ancients fire again because they have initiative. Chances are IH would lose the dread.

Next round he can upgrade tech to be more scary and possibly have Tappers help.

umm so you are going to join their alliance then?

What. How did you get to that conclusion?

IH is this something you've thought about?

You're all scumbags haha.

no, it was a misreading. Sorry. I thought you wrote that you could count on Tapper's help and I was like "umm him and IH are in an alliance now".

[cerveza_fiesta]

Although IH, if you do happen to go for that hex, I might be willing to protect the Western front.

The orion value your cagey, warlike ways as well and might be willing to work on a plan to pincer Tatts.

'course, we'd need diplo, which would mean you should go for that hex if possible.

EDIT

or I could move in and take it and you all can get bent. my 4 cruisers would mince your pitiful dreads, even if there are 2 of them

EDIT

Or I could politely excuse myself and go back to beating up on D'rek's territories.

WHICH WILL IT BE????

This post has been edited by cerveza_fiesta: 11 March 2015 - 04:31 PM

[twelve]

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

Although IH, if you do happen to go for that hex, I might be willing to protect the Western front.

The orion value your cagey, warlike ways as well and might be willing to work on a plan to pincer Tatts.

'course, we'd need diplo, which would mean you should go for that hex if possible.

EDIT

or I could move in and take it and you all can get bent. my 4 cruisers would mince your pitiful dreads, even if there are 2 of them

EDIT

Or I could politely excuse myself and go back to beating up on D'rek's territories.

WHICH WILL IT BE????

D'rek, This is why I said that you should have went for the starbases, plasma cannons and advanced materials instead of wasting your tech on the adv economy for what looked to be just to spite me. Why do you think I was so successful with the Draco last game. I got starbases very early and the threat of losing ships early against them before they fought the ancients kept people at bay. That allowed me to keep my early game resource advantage and keep a leg up on the arms race that lasted all game long.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Did tapper go?

[twelve]

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 04:44 PM, said:

Did tapper go?

Not that I know.

[Gnaw]

D, on 11 March 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Which is why I'm holding back some materials and not attacking Khell this round!

To hell with Khell.

Build some ships and attack Twelve!!

[Gnaw]

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

Gnaw, I should be at 8 money, not 7.


had 0 at end of last round and got 8 from the discovery.

Ah, so that's the the way it works with you then? 7 or 8 too many and not a peep. 1 too short and you yell and cry.

D'rek, D'rek. You're having an influence on the honest players.

*sigh*

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 11 March 2015 - 07:54 PM, said:

D, on 11 March 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Which is why I'm holding back some materials and not attacking Khell this round!

To hell with Khell.

Build some ships and attack Twelve!!

I'll gladly accept multiple reputation draws to help flesh out my score.

[Galactic Council]

40 posts and not a single action. bah

[twelve]

I could put in a provisional for the action after my latest provisional if that will make you feel better.

[Galactic Council]

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 March 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

Gnaw, I should be at 8 money, not 7.


had 0 at end of last round and got 8 from the discovery.

You're last round upkeep was -5 and you only had 4 income. That is why $7