[Nevyn]

Tsundoku, on 10 August 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 10 August 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

Most of nickelbrook's stuff is pretty good. They had them for a few years at the Uki festival in Mississauga, so I drank quite a bit of their lager and dark beer

I initially mistook that for nickelback. Needless to say I rubbed my eyes and read a second time.



On a more serious note, has Canada always had the occasional mass shooting or have the USA's problems been bleeding over the border only recently? I don't recall hearing much about stuff like that in Canada for most of my life, but that may only be because of reporting levels, or more specifically reporting levels in Oz media.

Nickelback is the buck a beer of rock.

[LinearPhilosopher]

Tsundoku, on 10 August 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 10 August 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

Most of nickelbrook's stuff is pretty good. They had them for a few years at the Uki festival in Mississauga, so I drank quite a bit of their lager and dark beer

I initially mistook that for nickelback. Needless to say I rubbed my eyes and read a second time.



On a more serious note, has Canada always had the occasional mass shooting or have the USA's problems been bleeding over the border only recently? I don't recall hearing much about stuff like that in Canada for most of my life, but that may only be because of reporting levels, or more specifically reporting levels in Oz media.

THere`s definetly an uptick, toronto got hit twice this summer, Danforth shooting and before that the van attack (not firearm related but still there) Aside from that, they do happen, but not often and usually a fraction of the casulties

We had the Mosque shooting in quebec 2017

Earliest I believe was the attack on l'ecole polytecnique in quebec somewhere. That was the incident that changed procedure. Before cops were instructed to wait for the swat teams, now the policy if theres something happening cops are to go in. You`ll note the below list has some ancient history stuff but after the 2000s it spikes a fair bit. Recent years even more violent. This on top of the fact torontos got a gun violence problem with street gang wars that frequently result in civilians being caught in the crossfire.

https://en.wikipedia...acres_in_Canada

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Gintokian, on 10 August 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Know anyone looking for an accountant out there? lol. I wouldn't mind going out there it's just hard when all your family and friends are in Ontario, it's a long drive.

If you've got accreditation of some kind that you're pretty much golden--my buddy just earned his CPA accreditation. He got a title bump and jumped like 2 paybands.

[Gintokian]

rant, on 10 August 2018 - 11:38 PM, said:

Gintokian, on 10 August 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Know anyone looking for an accountant out there? lol. I wouldn't mind going out there it's just hard when all your family and friends are in Ontario, it's a long drive.

If you've got accreditation of some kind that you're pretty much golden--my buddy just earned his CPA accreditation. He got a title bump and jumped like 2 paybands.

I'll be a full CPA in January, passed the exam just finishing my hours now.
Maybe one day I'll move somewhere but i still gotta finish paying off student loans ugh

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LinearPhilosopher, on 10 August 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

Tsundoku, on 10 August 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 10 August 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

Most of nickelbrook's stuff is pretty good. They had them for a few years at the Uki festival in Mississauga, so I drank quite a bit of their lager and dark beer

I initially mistook that for nickelback. Needless to say I rubbed my eyes and read a second time.



On a more serious note, has Canada always had the occasional mass shooting or have the USA's problems been bleeding over the border only recently? I don't recall hearing much about stuff like that in Canada for most of my life, but that may only be because of reporting levels, or more specifically reporting levels in Oz media.

THere`s definetly an uptick, toronto got hit twice this summer, Danforth shooting and before that the van attack (not firearm related but still there) Aside from that, they do happen, but not often and usually a fraction of the casulties

We had the Mosque shooting in quebec 2017

Earliest I believe was the attack on l'ecole polytecnique in quebec somewhere. That was the incident that changed procedure. Before cops were instructed to wait for the swat teams, now the policy if theres something happening cops are to go in. You`ll note the below list has some ancient history stuff but after the 2000s it spikes a fair bit. Recent years even more violent. This on top of the fact torontos got a gun violence problem with street gang wars that frequently result in civilians being caught in the crossfire.

https://en.wikipedia...acres_in_Canada

I'm actually in Fredericton --otherside of the river though, so I was far from harms way.
I was in Moncton when Bourque went on his cop killing spree--it definitely rocks the maritimer mentality a great deal tbh. These kind of things are supposed to be for the big cities and bustling central canada....not sleepy NB.

One thing that seems to be unique about maritime gun violence is that its often (obviously today wasnt entirely) directed at cops.

[LinearPhilosopher]

Gintokian, on 10 August 2018 - 11:41 PM, said:

rant, on 10 August 2018 - 11:38 PM, said:

Gintokian, on 10 August 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Know anyone looking for an accountant out there? lol. I wouldn't mind going out there it's just hard when all your family and friends are in Ontario, it's a long drive.

If you've got accreditation of some kind that you're pretty much golden--my buddy just earned his CPA accreditation. He got a title bump and jumped like 2 paybands.

I'll be a full CPA in January, passed the exam just finishing my hours now.
Maybe one day I'll move somewhere but i still gotta finish paying off student loans ugh

lucky im struggling with the experience bit.

[QuickTidal]

Nevyn, didn’t like Cowbell Shindig, but Absent Landlord is fantastic! Thx for the recco

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 11 August 2018 - 06:57 PM

[Gintokian]

LinearPhilosopher, on 11 August 2018 - 01:41 AM, said:

Gintokian, on 10 August 2018 - 11:41 PM, said:

rant, on 10 August 2018 - 11:38 PM, said:

Gintokian, on 10 August 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Know anyone looking for an accountant out there? lol. I wouldn't mind going out there it's just hard when all your family and friends are in Ontario, it's a long drive.

If you've got accreditation of some kind that you're pretty much golden--my buddy just earned his CPA accreditation. He got a title bump and jumped like 2 paybands.

I'll be a full CPA in January, passed the exam just finishing my hours now.
Maybe one day I'll move somewhere but i still gotta finish paying off student loans ugh

lucky im struggling with the experience bit.

Well I'll have it in January assuming the reviewing dicks actually give me proper scores and not drop everything down to 1s...

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Odds on Bernier leading a populist walk out of the CPC convention this weekend? He's been doing a lot of squawking on the twitter lately, so I think he's gonna make some kind of move.

[rant]

Mad Max actually did it! I should have done an over/under on the # of con MPs that follow him.


Trudeau has got to be one the luckiest politicians ever. Despite governing.......very poorly........he's getting unmatched political breaks. A weak NDP and a split con base led to ~10+ years of liberal governance. Bernie and Singh give Trudeau that. Add in a populist (and therefore conservative) Quebecois nationalist movement, a populist con government in Ontario, and most likely a con government in Alberta...........and a second majority government is Trudeau's to lose.....even with the losses he's already accrued (BC, environmental, indigenous).

[Abyss]

am kind of doubtful Bernier's going to draw much in the way of followers from current MPs.

[LinearPhilosopher]

rant, on 25 August 2018 - 01:51 AM, said:

Mad Max actually did it! I should have done an over/under on the # of con MPs that follow him.


Trudeau has got to be one the luckiest politicians ever. Despite governing.......very poorly........he's getting unmatched political breaks. A weak NDP and a split con base led to ~10+ years of liberal governance. Bernie and Singh give Trudeau that. Add in a populist (and therefore conservative) Quebecois nationalist movement, a populist con government in Ontario, and most likely a con government in Alberta...........and a second majority government is Trudeau's to lose.....even with the losses he's already accrued (BC, environmental, indigenous).

hmmm idk, Harper benefited mightily from having a weak and divided opposition, you can say he profited from Liberal incompetence just as much as JT is profiting from the latest Bernier stuff. Another interesting thing to point out is that historically the party governing ontario is the opposite party governing federal so I would not put too much stock in that factor.

Governing poorly is also a value judgement based largely on your political views i find.

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Abyss, on 25 August 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

am kind of doubtful Bernier's going to draw much in the way of followers from current MPs.

Yea they were quite consistent this weekend. It looks like supply management (if it survives the week...) is going to be a major wedge issue, a lot of young cons were upset it never went to vote this weekend.

LinearPhilosopher, on 26 August 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Historically the party governing ontario is the opposite party governing federal so I would not put too much stock in that factor.

Yes, that fact is why I'm putting stock in it lol--people on the left in Ontario will be more motivated to get out and vote because there is an Ontario conservative gvt.

LinearPhilosopher, on 26 August 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Governing poorly is also a value judgement based largely on your political views i find.

I mean, I'm typically to the left of the Liberals on most issues but I generally appreciate a slightly left of centre government if they govern well.

Here are my main concerns:
Not even coming close to resolving (and indeed exacerbating) phoenix pay, the utter disgrace of the MMIW inquiry (how late is it/how many different heads have walked away now?), the gvt now literally owning the transmountain pipeline and all its issues, an ACOA minister who is from mississauga (admittedly that's a maritime issue lol), abandoning any consideration of revamping first-past-the-post, major delays in marijuana legalization (despite downloading like 90% of the responsibility to the provinces).
Don't get me wrong--the fact that they unmuzzled scientists and made climate change a major plank of their platform earns them a lot of points with me........but.....see above.

[QuickTidal]

Only 3 breweries, that no one has ever really heard of, taking part in Ford's buck-a-beer...This mightily amuses me.

[LinearPhilosopher]

rant, on 28 August 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

Abyss, on 25 August 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

am kind of doubtful Bernier's going to draw much in the way of followers from current MPs.

Yea they were quite consistent this weekend. It looks like supply management (if it survives the week...) is going to be a major wedge issue, a lot of young cons were upset it never went to vote this weekend.

LinearPhilosopher, on 26 August 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Historically the party governing ontario is the opposite party governing federal so I would not put too much stock in that factor.

Yes, that fact is why I'm putting stock in it lol--people on the left in Ontario will be more motivated to get out and vote because there is an Ontario conservative gvt.

LinearPhilosopher, on 26 August 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Governing poorly is also a value judgement based largely on your political views i find.

I mean, I'm typically to the left of the Liberals on most issues but I generally appreciate a slightly left of centre government if they govern well.

Here are my main concerns:
Not even coming close to resolving (and indeed exacerbating) phoenix pay, the utter disgrace of the MMIW inquiry (how late is it/how many different heads have walked away now?), the gvt now literally owning the transmountain pipeline and all its issues, an ACOA minister who is from mississauga (admittedly that's a maritime issue lol), abandoning any consideration of revamping first-past-the-post, major delays in marijuana legalization (despite downloading like 90% of the responsibility to the provinces).
Don't get me wrong--the fact that they unmuzzled scientists and made climate change a major plank of their platform earns them a lot of points with me........but.....see above.

Phoenix Pay- 100% The fact that it has yet to be resolved is gastly given whats happened to many of its employees.It's an inherited problem yes but by now a competent goverment would have put the neccesary ressources into fixing the problem. On the other hand though... Not an IT expert so I don't what would be involved in fixing this.

TMP-With this issue youd have to be Bismarck to resolve it. I don't think the standard for governance should be being a once in a lifetime dynamic leader.

ACOA- They hired a teacher to be the minister of revenue LOL. There's a shortage of competent people in politics, likely due to the fact most of these competent people have full time jobs elsewhere.

-FPTP-100% agree, its the reason im likely voting tory in this election to spite vote the libs. From a Machiavellian POV though, FPTP helps the liberals and tories get majorites time and again and they wont do anything to change it.

Marijuana-I don't mind them taking their time if it means its done right. It doesn't really impact me so whatever.

This post has been edited by LinearPhilosopher: 28 August 2018 - 02:20 PM

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LinearPhilosopher, on 28 August 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

TMP-With this issue youd have to be Bismarck to resolve it. I don't think the standard for governance should be being a once in a lifetime dynamic leader.

ACOA- They hired a teacher to be the minister of revenue LOL. There's a shortage of competent people in politics, likely due to the fact most of these competent people have full time jobs elsewhere.

-FPTP-100% agree, its the reason im likely voting tory in this election to spite vote the libs. From a Machiavellian POV though, FPTP helps the liberals and tories get majorites time and again and they wont do anything to change it.

I think I can walk away from my governing poorly comment, as well as concede it is partially from my political views. Giving it more thought I think some of my examples above are about governing, but some are also more about the grits political decisions.

I think my issue with transmountain arises from the fact that it is a problem they created for themselves. I never understood why Trudeau tied the carbon tax to pipeline tidewater access [here is where one of my political views was driving my opinion: I view climate as as the most pressing thing our (and any) nation faces]. I mean, I get why....environmentalists are a dispersed electorate vs. the concentrated electorate of AB/SK......but I think [and here is where I focus politics rather than governing haha ] he'd have survived electorally NOT tying their fate together....he was never going to pick up those AB/SK votes. And now he's pissed off half of the BC electorate, the environmental vote, the indigenous vote (ostensibly ignoring treaties), and parts of quebec (via provincial vs. federal jurisdiction).


And yea, regarding first past the post---100% agree. And if the NDP/ green ever form gvt, they will be in the same situation lol.

ACOA is just frustrating cuz I'm sure 1 of the 32 atlantic canadian mps would have a better idea than some dude from sauga haha

[EmperorMagus]

rant, on 28 August 2018 - 08:22 PM, said:

I think my issue with transmountain arises from the fact that it is a problem they created for themselves. I never understood why Trudeau tied the carbon tax to pipeline tidewater access [here is where one of my political views was driving my opinion: I view climate as as the most pressing thing our (and any) nation faces]. I mean, I get why....environmentalists are a dispersed electorate vs. the concentrated electorate of AB/SK......but I think [and here is where I focus politics rather than governing haha ] he'd have survived electorally NOT tying their fate together....he was never going to pick up those AB/SK votes. And now he's pissed off half of the BC electorate, the environmental vote, the indigenous vote (ostensibly ignoring treaties), and parts of quebec (via provincial vs. federal jurisdiction).


And yea, regarding first past the post---100% agree. And if the NDP/ green ever form gvt, they will be in the same situation lol.

ACOA is just frustrating cuz I'm sure 1 of the 32 atlantic canadian mps would have a better idea than some dude from sauga haha

My main problem with Trudeau (aside from PR) is the Liberal Party's BS line (and policies) about the environment:

"The economy and the environment go hand in hand together."

No they don't. The economy is completely reliant on the environment. If there is no place for humans to live, there won't be any economy. Anyone who implies otherwise is bullshitting.

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EmperorMagus, on 28 August 2018 - 11:04 PM, said:

My main problem with Trudeau (aside from PR) is the Liberal Party's BS line (and policies) about the environment:
"The economy and the environment go hand in hand together."

No they don't. The economy is completely reliant on the environment. If there is no place for humans to live, there won't be any economy. Anyone who implies otherwise is bullshitting.

Take a reply and a rep!
This is a semi-random tangent---but have you looked at the things were starting to run out of? Like....not the things you'd expect (oil, wood, biomass, arable land, clean water).....but random shit that is actually critically important to some segment of the economy?

For example: sand ( I mean, this isnt very random when you consider how big a role concrete plays in construction).
https://www.newyorke...ing-out-of-sand

Its just wild
#infinitegrowth #finiteresources#Hashtag

This post has been edited by rant: 28 August 2018 - 11:49 PM

[EmperorMagus]

rant, on 28 August 2018 - 11:48 PM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 28 August 2018 - 11:04 PM, said:

My main problem with Trudeau (aside from PR) is the Liberal Party's BS line (and policies) about the environment:
"The economy and the environment go hand in hand together."

No they don't. The economy is completely reliant on the environment. If there is no place for humans to live, there won't be any economy. Anyone who implies otherwise is bullshitting.

Take a reply and a rep!
This is a semi-random tangent---but have you looked at the things were starting to run out of? Like....not the things you'd expect (oil, wood, biomass, arable land, clean water).....but random shit that is actually critically important to some segment of the economy?

For example: sand ( I mean, this isnt very random when you consider how big a role concrete plays in construction).
https://www.newyorke...ing-out-of-sand

Its just wild
#infinitegrowth #finiteresources#Hashtag

Frankly, these shortages are terrifying in the short term but they can all be circumvented by better practices in the long term (sustainability for the win!).

But if we don't stop emitting so much carbon, nothing will be able to stop the seas rising - and then there's going to be a real shortage of living space for a lot of people. (climate refugees FTW! imagine a crisis ten times the size of the Syrian one once all those tiny islands in the Pacific and the Southeast Asia are uninhabitable).

[LinearPhilosopher]

EmperorMagus, on 29 August 2018 - 03:05 AM, said:

rant, on 28 August 2018 - 11:48 PM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 28 August 2018 - 11:04 PM, said:

My main problem with Trudeau (aside from PR) is the Liberal Party's BS line (and policies) about the environment:
"The economy and the environment go hand in hand together."

No they don't. The economy is completely reliant on the environment. If there is no place for humans to live, there won't be any economy. Anyone who implies otherwise is bullshitting.

Take a reply and a rep!
This is a semi-random tangent---but have you looked at the things were starting to run out of? Like....not the things you'd expect (oil, wood, biomass, arable land, clean water).....but random shit that is actually critically important to some segment of the economy?

For example: sand ( I mean, this isnt very random when you consider how big a role concrete plays in construction).
https://www.newyorke...ing-out-of-sand

Its just wild
#infinitegrowth #finiteresources#Hashtag

Frankly, these shortages are terrifying in the short term but they can all be circumvented by better practices in the long term (sustainability for the win!).

But if we don't stop emitting so much carbon, nothing will be able to stop the seas rising - and then there's going to be a real shortage of living space for a lot of people. (climate refugees FTW! imagine a crisis ten times the size of the Syrian one once all those tiny islands in the Pacific and the Southeast Asia are uninhabitable).

Interesting you mention that as one of my buddies works for an aggregate mining company in huntsville. Ill ask him about it next time we go for drinks.

EDIT: his company came up in the article XD

This post has been edited by LinearPhilosopher: 29 August 2018 - 02:26 PM