[Pallid]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 02:28 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 01:41 PM, said:

Queens, give out orders and bribes and give us information. You are immortal so be tyrranical.

Basically I think the whole thread is waiting for the two of you to do whatever it is you need to do before we can get this game going.

I can't help but agree with this - I mean, we're a bunch of humans amongst a few Sidhe, right? No wonder no one wants to jump too high.

You'd be surprised how limited our ability to meddle in the mortals' affairs truly is.
Besides, unless you've been recruited, you should not be looking to us for guidance, as that would be counter to the town's VC (I'm assuming PS gave you one of those).
My order atm would be, naturally to locate and lynch a Winter player, to maintain numerical parity at the least. I believe that right now that is in everyone's best interest, as my rapid demise would make things extremely difficult for any non-winter to win.

[Tulas Shorn]

As humans, it would be in our best interest to see all the Sidhe die. I suppose that given Summer is already down one, it would make sense for us to try a Summer culture hunt.

The issue, of course, is that there's very little to go on in order to make this a good hunt.

[Tennes]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

As humans, it would be in our best interest to see all the Sidhe die. I suppose that given Summer is already down one, it would make sense for us to try a Summer culture hunt.

The issue, of course, is that there's very little to go on in order to make this a good hunt.

I agree. Unless someone is a town finder and willing to step up and announce (please don't as you most likely will not live through the night) we have as much information to go off of as we did on day 1.

[Pallid]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

As humans, it would be in our best interest to see all the Sidhe die. I suppose that given Summer is already down one, it would make sense for us to try a Summer culture hunt.

The issue, of course, is that there's very little to go on in order to make this a good hunt.

For obvious reasons I cannot condone such an attitude
vote Tulas Shorn

Suffice it to say, violating the balance will have dire consequences and cannot be allowed. Anyone familiar with the canon will understand what it is that I'm asking you to read b/w the lines here.

[Tulas Shorn]

Korlat, on 21 January 2015 - 02:20 AM, said:

I wonder if changelings can choose to either join the human or sidhe factions depending on how the game is going. Again, dont know if it translated into the game, but if you look at the wiki a changeling can choose either or.

Just a quick note on this - in the books, once a Changeling has declared for the Sidhe, they cannot revert back to human, they become whatever their other half blood is, so I would assume this game works the same.

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Maybe something to consider as Summer lost one of the guards or players aligned with her, so that might have given the winter-sidhe changelings some confidence to turn to that side.

I also find this part of the post interesting - seems to me Korlat is subtly trying to point us in Winter's direction. He's saying "Winter looks more attractive to the Changelings right now, so we should try to deal with that by bringing winter back to parity."

If we decide to culture hunt Summer, and I'm thinking that's the logical way to go as it would leave us with only one Sidhe queen to deal with, so far this is about the only thing that stands out to me that doesn't come from one of the Queens' mouths.

[Korbas]

Silanah, on 20 January 2015 - 11:36 PM, said:

Korbas, on 20 January 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

Also guys you can thank me for the power levels. I wanted to know what we are dealing with.

Will you be doing it regularly?

Just the once I'm afraid. I didn't use abilities because of the weekend freeze

[Tulas Shorn]

Pallid, on 21 January 2015 - 03:46 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

As humans, it would be in our best interest to see all the Sidhe die. I suppose that given Summer is already down one, it would make sense for us to try a Summer culture hunt.

The issue, of course, is that there's very little to go on in order to make this a good hunt.

For obvious reasons I cannot condone such an attitude
vote Tulas Shorn

Suffice it to say, violating the balance will have dire consequences and cannot be allowed. Anyone familiar with the canon will understand what it is that I'm asking you to read b/w the lines here.

I assume what Pallid is trying to imply here is that if we kill off Summer then Winter gets control of the world, which then basically creates an Ice Age that would destroy everything on Earth. The books always imply that one of the Queens dying would be bad for Earth, though I'd be much more terrified of the Winter Queen dying than the Summer Queen.

The Winter Queen keeps the Outsiders in check, the Summer queen keeps Winter in check.

I am, however, hesitant to believe anything coming out of the Queens' mouths. Obviously Pallid's going to jump on anyone who implies that we should be going after Summer, but I'm sick of just sitting here doing nothing, and until we actually start playing the game instead of sitting here talking ourselves into circles but never actually saying anything, I don't see how the game will actually start.

So, colour me unsurprised that the Summer Queen has voted for me after I implied that it would be better to culture hunt Summer than do nothing.

[Korbas]

Pallid, on 21 January 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 02:28 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 01:41 PM, said:

Queens, give out orders and bribes and give us information. You are immortal so be tyrranical.

Basically I think the whole thread is waiting for the two of you to do whatever it is you need to do before we can get this game going.

I can't help but agree with this - I mean, we're a bunch of humans amongst a few Sidhe, right? No wonder no one wants to jump too high.

You'd be surprised how limited our ability to meddle in the mortals' affairs truly is.
Besides, unless you've been recruited, you should not be looking to us for guidance, as that would be counter to the town's VC (I'm assuming PS gave you one of those).
My order atm would be, naturally to locate and lynch a Winter player, to maintain numerical parity at the least. I believe that right now that is in everyone's best interest, as my rapid demise would make things extremely difficult for any non-winter to win.

Winter is winning. Look at all that snow! 🙌

[Korbas]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

Korlat, on 21 January 2015 - 02:20 AM, said:

I wonder if changelings can choose to either join the human or sidhe factions depending on how the game is going. Again, dont know if it translated into the game, but if you look at the wiki a changeling can choose either or.

Just a quick note on this - in the books, once a Changeling has declared for the Sidhe, they cannot revert back to human, they become whatever their other half blood is, so I would assume this game works the same.

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Maybe something to consider as Summer lost one of the guards or players aligned with her, so that might have given the winter-sidhe changelings some confidence to turn to that side.

I also find this part of the post interesting - seems to me Korlat is subtly trying to point us in Winter's direction. He's saying "Winter looks more attractive to the Changelings right now, so we should try to deal with that by bringing winter back to parity."

If we decide to culture hunt Summer, and I'm thinking that's the logical way to go as it would leave us with only one Sidhe queen to deal with, so far this is about the only thing that stands out to me that doesn't come from one of the Queens' mouths.

You sound like you are making sense.

For the rest of the day you must use a movie quote within your post.

[Togg]

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them.

So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.

Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.

I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

[Korbas]

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them.

So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.

Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.

I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Togg Togg Togg. So laissez faire of you.

You sound like a politician. Maybe I'll make that a permanent attribute to yourgood self?

For now let's see...

I order you to use Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran song lyrics within each of your posts until the end of the day

[Tennes]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 03:58 PM, said:

Korlat, on 21 January 2015 - 02:20 AM, said:

I wonder if changelings can choose to either join the human or sidhe factions depending on how the game is going. Again, dont know if it translated into the game, but if you look at the wiki a changeling can choose either or.

Just a quick note on this - in the books, once a Changeling has declared for the Sidhe, they cannot revert back to human, they become whatever their other half blood is, so I would assume this game works the same.

Quote

Maybe something to consider as Summer lost one of the guards or players aligned with her, so that might have given the winter-sidhe changelings some confidence to turn to that side.

I also find this part of the post interesting - seems to me Korlat is subtly trying to point us in Winter's direction. He's saying "Winter looks more attractive to the Changelings right now, so we should try to deal with that by bringing winter back to parity."

If we decide to culture hunt Summer, and I'm thinking that's the logical way to go as it would leave us with only one Sidhe queen to deal with, so far this is about the only thing that stands out to me that doesn't come from one of the Queens' mouths.

I wonder if it would be better for us to to try to eliminate any possible summer or winter. To expand my thought. Summer has already lost a player if we think that Korlat is winter and lynch him then the balance would still remain and winter would remain. I don't think that a culture hunt will be that possible here, because the lower roles may not know one another so that then there isn't going to be anything to point from one to another. I think that it is possible that only the queens know who is on there team and since they are lynch proof now they are just going to throw out false signals. I am fine voting for Korlat as a possible member of winter.

Vote Korlat

[Pallid]

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them.

So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.

Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.

I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Great wisdom in this post there is.
HENCEFORTH ALL OF TOGG'S POSTS SHALL BE DONE FOLLOWING YODA'S SENTENCE STRUCTURE

[Pallid]

Korbas, on 21 January 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them.

So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.

Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.

I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Togg Togg Togg. So laissez faire of you.

You sound like a politician. Maybe I'll make that a permanent attribute to yourgood self?

For now let's see...

I order you to use Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran song lyrics within each of your posts until the end of the day

Rats. Foiled by phone's slow-typing

[Tennes]

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them.

So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.

Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.

I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

If we can actually find a power player on one of the sides and that person is known to other winter players and not just the queen then that would be a good way to draw out one side. I am willing to worry about what happens if one queen is lynched when and if we are able to get to that point.

[Togg]

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So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain

Ok now I have taylor swift lyrics in my search history in work, and with that, I'm out until this stupid fucking thing wears off. Will post staying alive posts but I am not familiar with either of these artists and I'm not searching for quotes for them for every post I want to make.

Parting thoughts for today; Fuck Korbas

Will of course continue to keep up to date with the thread until tomorrow.

[Silanah]

Korbas, on 21 January 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them. So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Togg Togg Togg. So laissez faire of you.You sound like a politician. Maybe I'll make that a permanent attribute to yourgood self?For now let's see...I order you to use Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran song lyrics within each of your posts until the end of the day

Pallid, on 21 January 2015 - 04:19 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them. So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Great wisdom in this post there is. HENCEFORTH ALL OF TOGG'S POSTS SHALL BE DONE FOLLOWING YODA'S SENTENCE STRUCTURE

So I think Togg is a safe vote as being on neither side?

[Silanah]

Pallid, on 21 January 2015 - 03:46 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 21 January 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

As humans, it would be in our best interest to see all the Sidhe die. I suppose that given Summer is already down one, it would make sense for us to try a Summer culture hunt.

The issue, of course, is that there's very little to go on in order to make this a good hunt.

For obvious reasons I cannot condone such an attitude
vote Tulas Shorn

Suffice it to say, violating the balance will have dire consequences and cannot be allowed. Anyone familiar with the canon will understand what it is that I'm asking you to read b/w the lines here.

Yes but this is a Mafia game, not the books.

[Tennes]

Silanah, on 21 January 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

Korbas, on 21 January 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them. So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Togg Togg Togg. So laissez faire of you.You sound like a politician. Maybe I'll make that a permanent attribute to yourgood self?For now let's see...I order you to use Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran song lyrics within each of your posts until the end of the day

Pallid, on 21 January 2015 - 04:19 PM, said:

Togg, on 21 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The problem is, anyone who goes after one of them gets targeted by everyone of that faction and everyone who wants to throw in with them. So if we go after summer, we get targeted by their power players, if we go after winter, we get targeted by theirs instead, if we go after both, then we just piss off all of the power players.Best of the bad choices seems to be to indeed start a culture hunt, but what if we kill a queen and her followers and the other side straight up just wins. Should we go for equal measure culture hunt? God that would be nearly impossible just thinking about it.I agree we need to start a culture hunt. Not sure how we should do it.

Great wisdom in this post there is. HENCEFORTH ALL OF TOGG'S POSTS SHALL BE DONE FOLLOWING YODA'S SENTENCE STRUCTURE

So I think Togg is a safe vote as being on neither side?

Possibly. But I have no interest in doing that.

[Korbas]

Ha ha cone on Togg.

Yoda Taylor Swift haha

Nightmare you say dressed as a daydream you are haha