[QuickTidal]

paran falcon, on 19 March 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

And Ahsoka has appeared in quite a few eps in S2. I may have to go back to try to mine just her path through the Clone Wars series without sitting through the whole thing as I don't know the details of her separation from the Jedi as Anakin was turning.

It actually didn't occur AS he was turning. He was still well in the good/Hero mold when she left. The story is pretty simple. Jedi Master (and Council Member) Luminara Unduli's padawan Bariss Offee (she's in ATOC, and on TCW and was Ahsoka's close friend for a time) is corrupted by her own growing feelings of distrust of the way the Jedi operate....so she orchestrates a bombing of the Jedi Temple and frames Ahsoka for it. The Council doesn't believe that Ahsoka is innocent, and gets within a hairs breadth of finding her guilty and executing her...before Anakin confronts Bariss (after suspecting her) and convinces her to confess, saving Ahsoka. Anakin finds Ahsoka leaving the Temple and asks why since she was exonerated...and Ahsoka expresses the same distrust of the Jedi Council who she finds are blinding themselves to obvious threats and stagnation of their rule-strict structure...and quits. Anakin reveals that he KINd of agrees with her, and she should stay with him and together they can help try to change the Jedi Order for the better....but she refuses and leaves anyways. That's the last time he sees her and she him, until she "senses" him in Vader on REBELS (Season 2?). In the interim she did a few things (AHSOKA book by E.K. Johnston) to distance herself from the order (and keep herself safe after Order 66 came down), including hiding under assumed names like Kanan did, and Rex helping her stage her own death (leaving her old Jedi lightsabers at the supposed grave site; which is why she has two new ones on REBELS that are white-bladed). She has no idea that he is Vader during all that time. In fact she assumed he died under Order 66 with all the other Jedi.

Anyways, glad you're enjoying. It's really such a solid show throughout, and never stops being inventive and enjoyable. You will come to (if you haven't already) CARE for this team of characters.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 19 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

[paran falcon]

QuickTidal, on 19 March 2018 - 02:54 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 19 March 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

And Ahsoka has appeared in quite a few eps in S2. I may have to go back to try to mine just her path through the Clone Wars series without sitting through the whole thing as I don't know the details of her separation from the Jedi as Anakin was turning.

It actually didn't occur AS he was turning. He was still well in the good/Hero mold when she left. The story is pretty simple. Jedi Master (and Council Member) Luminara Unduli's padawan Bariss Offee (she's in ATOC, and on TCW and was Ahsoka's close friend for a time) is corrupted by her own growing feelings of distrust of the way the Jedi operate....so she orchestrates a bombing of the Jedi Temple and frames Ahsoka for it. The Council doesn't believe that Ahsoka is innocent, and gets within a hairs breadth of finding her guilty and executing her...before Anakin confronts Bariss (after suspecting her) and convinces her to confess, saving Ahsoka. Anakin finds Ahsoka leaving the Temple and asks why since she was exonerated...and Ahsoka expresses the same distrust of the Jedi Council who she finds are blinding themselves to obvious threats and stagnation of their rule-strict structure...and quits. Anakin reveals that he KINd of agrees with her, and she should stay with him and together they can help try to change the Jedi Order for the better....but she refuses and leaves anyways. That's the last time he sees her and she him, until she "senses" him in Vader on REBELS (Season 2?). In the interim she did a few things (AHSOKA book by E.K. Johnston) to distance herself from the order (and keep herself safe after Order 66 came down), including hiding under assumed names like Kanan did, and Rex helping her stage her own death (leaving her old Jedi lightsabers at the supposed grave site; which is why she has two new ones on REBELS that are white-bladed). She has no idea that he is Vader during all that time. In fact she assumed he died under Order 66 with all the other Jedi.

Anyways, glad you're enjoying. It's really such a solid show throughout, and never stops being inventive and enjoyable. You will come to (if you haven't already) CARE for this team of characters.

Wow, great synopsis, thanks QT! That would explain why Ahsoka doesn't realize more quickly who Vader actually is. I knew she had been framed for an atrocity of some kind and that a fellow Jedi in training had set her up, but that was about it. I didn't know she parted ways prior to Anakin going dark. Did the CW show portray that as having a significant effect on Anakin?

You've also filled me in on why her lightsabers are white now. I loved that hers were green (my lifelong favorite color) but oh well.

As I have found with some other shows, like GoT, being able to binge episodes in groups of your choosing really helps one get fully engrossed. I've read through this thread now up to where I am and although I stated I didn't feel like there were throwaway episodes, it seems some did during the course of the initial run. I can certainly see some of those episodes leaving one wanting when that's all you get for an entire week.

I agree about coming to care about the characters, as well. They are all likeable yet different and the moments that are meant to tug on the heart stings are having the desired affect. Or I'm just getting softer in my old age!

[Traveller]

I'm rewatching the final season.

Agree totally, watching these back to back does make a difference! It really is so, so good.

What I'm appreciating is the effort that went into the long game plan. Lots of what first appeared to be 'filler' episodes in earlier seasons really weren't that at all. What they were doing was focusing on building a certain character, plot element or relationship, all of which serve a purpose during the final season.

I picked up some great lines from earlier eps... one of which was from

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the Bendu to Thrawn - 'I see your defeat like many arms surrounding you in a cold embrace' Ha, perfect.

Also, watching Hydan again after having just watched tFA, I really, really want him to be Snoke. He probably isnt, as Filoni said on a q+a that he didn't have any discussion with Rian or the other movie directors about links between the series (he was talking about the impact of his World between worlds at the time) so it seems unlikely that he'd stick Snokes origin into a cartoon... but still, it really would be a great background and explanation for him.

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[paran falcon]

Still making my way through the series and totally enjoying it. Got through S3 Eps15,16 & 17. LOVED the introduction of the dark saber and Sabine's arc in 15 & 16, though it seems she'll be gone for a few eps now. I love her just about as much as I love Ahsoka at this point, although every character is at least likeable. Also, for some reason the visual scenery around Sabine's mother's place really struck me as excellent.

[paran falcon]

Just finished the entire series, having run through half of S3 and all of S4 last night and today. (Not getting a damn thing done with my Saturday, but it says a lot about how into it I was; I really couldn't stop once I got that far.) This show was absolutely fantastic, with very few low points, if any. I know its easier to feel that way when you get to binge through at any pace you want. My thoughts may jump around as I bring things up but I want to put them down before I start to lose them.

Kanan's death was the most powerful event of the show, for me, though there were many. When he lost his lightsaber, I was really worried, as I felt a lightsaber battle (or use) of some kind was necessary, almost, for maximum justice and inpact. But what they gave us was probably even better than what I had in mind. I had tears running, I am not ashamed to admit. When his eyes went clear while looking into Hera's...Wow

@QT: I also noticed the Rebels logo after that Ep all in gray/white with the falling ash and thought it was brilliant touch.

Ahsoka!! I need to watch the World Between Worlds Ep again. (As a lover of birds of prey and a" wish I was a falconer", when she had that owl land on her wrist, I nearly passed out with joy!!) There is a ton to digest there, with a lot of possibilities for the SW future should they choose to use it. Where does the "Mortis" stuff come from? I'm assuming EU books or something cause I've never heard that word before, I don't think.

I noticed when Hydan seemed to fall into the collapsing temple but didn't think much of it until the first of you mentioned the theory that he becomes Snoke. That clicked into place in my mind immediately. That could work easily.

I assumed that Ezra was going to be "gone" the way Kanan was. When the ship went whale hyperspace with he and Thrawn, there was less of an impact to me. Then they showed the faces of all his friends in extended silence and the feeling about tripled. But as someone else asked, how does one survive that with windows blown open? Then again, I will add my voice to those crying out for an Ashoka and Sabine search for Ezra show! I would be all over that!! They are two of my favorite characters in the SW universe. And they're both animated.

I almost can't believe they were able to bring the remaining characters to beyond ROTJ and make me buy it pretty much completely. Now I have no problem with Jacen Syndulla existing but am I the only one that didn't think they'd even implied procreation ever took place between Kanan and Hera? I know the show was rated TV14 but I think they only even kissed twice? I like the idea of Kanan's (and Hera's) bloodline existing currently so I'm not really complaining.

This show has me wanting to watch Rogue One again to find the tie ins to it. The showrunners did a fantastic job with all the little strands that reach into all the rest of the SW universe.

I'm sure I've already forgotten other things I planned to mention. Anyway, I am thoroughly impressed by how much I enjoyed this series. Its best moments were equal to, at least, the best parts of any of the movies. I will check out anything else this team produces. I could actually see myself buying this series at some point. That's a pretty high mark for me.

Oh yeah, Chopper is the awesomest stormtrooper ass kicking droid EVA!! Favorite droid in all of SW!

[QuickTidal]

Mortis is an arc from THE CLONE WARS.

[Traveller]

Mortis is a must-see 3 ep arc in Clone Wars. It has some massive implications, and a huge impact on the way things turn out following the events there, for Anakin, Ahsoka and Obi Wan. The fate of the Father, Son and Daughter also affects/predicts what happens to the balance of the force in the future.

Look for the episodes 'Overlords', 'Altar of Mortis', and 'Ghosts of Mortis'.

It explains a lot (Including my personal favourite explanation for Anakins otherwise implausible turn to the dark side) as well as Ahsoka's future path in Rebels.

(The scene that echoes strikingly with future events on Mustafar between Anakin and Obi Wan - that gave me chills).

This post has been edited by Traveller: 09 April 2018 - 08:06 PM

[paran falcon]

Traveller, on 08 April 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

Mortis is a must-see 3 ep arc in Clone Wars. It has some massive implications, and a huge impact on the way things turn out following the events there, for Anakin, Ahsoka and Obi Wan. The fate of the Father, Son and Daughter also affects/predicts what happens to the balance of the force in the future.

Look for the episodes 'Overlords', 'Altar of Mortis', and 'Ghosts of Mortis'.

It explains a lot (Including my personal favourite explanation for Anakins otherwise implausible turn to the dark side) as well as Ahsoka's future path in Rebels.

(The scene that echoes strikingly with future events on Mustafar between Anskin and Obi Wan - that gave me chills).

It appears that I may end up watching the whole Clone Wars series. When my daughter saw me working through Rebels, she said, "We need to watch the Clone Wars when you're done with that." She's a big Ahsoka fan also and went as her for Halloween once when she was much younger. I've told her she needs to watch Rebels, it was so good. Unfortunately, I was deleting every Ep I watched until about the halfway point of S3 and Comcast on demand doesn't give everything from the first 2 1/2 seasons for free. But i have a feeling I will be owning the whole series before long.

I think there can be a down side to being able to binge a show (though I'm not complaining too much). You get so immersed in it (assuming its good, obviously) in such a short but intense amount of time and then you slam into the end of the show or current season and you're left with nothing to go on with. I was all over youtube yesterday looking for all the info I could find about the Rebels characters and storyline. I re-watched at least 2/3 of S4, especially Jedi Night, Dume, World Between Worlds and the finale. Re-watched the Ep where Ezra gets his first crystal and talks to Yoda and the S2 finale with Ahsoka and Vader. I've spent more time thinking about the characters of Rebels than I have anyone from any of the SW movies that I can recall. Still amazes me how much this animated story grabbed me.

[QuickTidal]

paran falcon, on 09 April 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

It appears that I may end up watching the whole Clone Wars series.

Ah, Padawan. I am here to help you. Like many other shows, there is a "watch order" for TCW tv show that allows you to get all the best and "arc" episodes for each season and skip all the fluff. I like this infographic (spoilered for size) because it shows you REQUIRED arcs, and then "non-arc, but cool episodes" and then skippable ones. It means you can bash through TCW meat story in much less time with much less aggravation at filler eps. Enjoy!

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 TCW-Order.jpg (1.12MB)
Number of downloads: 0

And after this list, you can watch al of S6 as it's not too long and is pretty much all good.

[paran falcon]

QuickTidal, on 09 April 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 09 April 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

It appears that I may end up watching the whole Clone Wars series.

Ah, Padawan. I am here to help you. Like many other shows, there is a "watch order" for TCW tv show that allows you to get all the best and "arc" episodes for each season and skip all the fluff. I like this infographic (spoilered for size) because it shows you REQUIRED arcs, and then "non-arc, but cool episodes" and then skippable ones. It means you can bash through TCW meat story in much less time with much less aggravation at filler eps. Enjoy!

Spoiler

 TCW-Order.jpg (1.12MB)
Number of downloads: 0

And after this list, you can watch al of S6 as it's not too long and is pretty much all good.

Many thanks, Master QT, Lol!

[QuickTidal]

paran falcon, on 09 April 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 09 April 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 09 April 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

It appears that I may end up watching the whole Clone Wars series.

Ah, Padawan. I am here to help you. Like many other shows, there is a "watch order" for TCW tv show that allows you to get all the best and "arc" episodes for each season and skip all the fluff. I like this infographic (spoilered for size) because it shows you REQUIRED arcs, and then "non-arc, but cool episodes" and then skippable ones. It means you can bash through TCW meat story in much less time with much less aggravation at filler eps. Enjoy!

Spoiler

 TCW-Order.jpg (1.12MB)
Number of downloads: 0

And after this list, you can watch al of S6 as it's not too long and is pretty much all good.

Many thanks, Master QT, Lol!

No prob.

Plus this means you get to watch THE FINEST lightsaber battle in the entire saga.

Maul & Savage VS Sidious, S5.

[Traveller]

QuickTidal, on 09 April 2018 - 02:00 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 09 April 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 09 April 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 09 April 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

It appears that I may end up watching the whole Clone Wars series.

Ah, Padawan. I am here to help you. Like many other shows, there is a "watch order" for TCW tv show that allows you to get all the best and "arc" episodes for each season and skip all the fluff. I like this infographic (spoilered for size) because it shows you REQUIRED arcs, and then "non-arc, but cool episodes" and then skippable ones. It means you can bash through TCW meat story in much less time with much less aggravation at filler eps. Enjoy!

Spoiler

 TCW-Order.jpg (1.12MB)
Number of downloads: 0

And after this list, you can watch al of S6 as it's not too long and is pretty much all good.

Many thanks, Master QT, Lol!

No prob.

Plus this means you get to watch THE FINEST lightsaber battle in the entire saga.

Maul & Savage VS Sidious, S5.

Yes, totally seconded. Although there are actually a lot of decent lightsaber battles throughout.

I watched all of CWs. One or two a night. And I've rewatched my fave arcs. There are many! Umbara, Mortis, Mandalore... no kidding, CWs make the prequel films seem like a few of the less interesting episodes. And by the end, animated Anakin becomes more well defined than the one in the movies.

[QuickTidal]

Next animated show was announced.

STAR WARS: RESISTANCE

Dave Filoni, natch.

[Gintokian]

QuickTidal, on 26 April 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

Next animated show was announced.

STAR WARS: RESISTANCE

Dave Filoni, natch.

I just saw that now. So much for our hopes for an Ahsoka & Sabine show. I really hope we do find out what happens with all that.

[QuickTidal]

Gintokian, on 26 April 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 26 April 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

Next animated show was announced.

STAR WARS: RESISTANCE

Dave Filoni, natch.

I just saw that now. So much for our hopes for an Ahsoka & Sabine show. I really hope we do find out what happens with all that.

Why would you say that? REBELS ended 5 years post-ROTJ with it's post-script scene with Ahsoka and Sabine...that lines up with the era that this new show takes place in. I TOTALLY think the search for Ezra/Thrawn will be in this show.

[Gintokian]

QuickTidal, on 26 April 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Gintokian, on 26 April 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 26 April 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

Next animated show was announced.

STAR WARS: RESISTANCE

Dave Filoni, natch.

I just saw that now. So much for our hopes for an Ahsoka & Sabine show. I really hope we do find out what happens with all that.

Why would you say that? REBELS ended 5 years post-ROTJ with it's post-script scene with Ahsoka and Sabine...that lines up with the era that this new show takes place in. I TOTALLY think the search for Ezra/Thrawn will be in this show.

I suppose we don't know exactly when RESISTANCE will take place but if Poe and Phasma are going to be in it I'd imagine it's closer to TFA time, which was 30 years post ROTJ. Even if the new show is 5-10 years before TFA that still leaves a 15-20 year difference.
It is possible they are still looking for Erza 10-15 years later for sure but we'd have missed a lot of their journey by then. It's quite possible they'll show up kinda like Ahsoka did in Rebels but I'm not hopeful they'll have a major role

[Gintokian]

Briar King, on 26 April 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

Change to Rebels/Resistance. That fucked me up lol

I know, me too. I wondered how there could be 31 pages in only a couple hours after the announcement.

[Abyss]

Gintokian, on 26 April 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Briar King, on 26 April 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

Change to Rebels/Resistance. That fucked me up lol

I know, me too. I wondered how there could be 31 pages in only a couple hours after the announcement.

29 pages of fanfic.

[paran falcon]

QuickTidal, on 26 April 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Gintokian, on 26 April 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 26 April 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

Next animated show was announced.

STAR WARS: RESISTANCE

Dave Filoni, natch.

I just saw that now. So much for our hopes for an Ahsoka & Sabine show. I really hope we do find out what happens with all that.

Why would you say that? REBELS ended 5 years post-ROTJ with it's post-script scene with Ahsoka and Sabine...that lines up with the era that this new show takes place in. I TOTALLY think the search for Ezra/Thrawn will be in this show.

I REALLY hope you're right QT, but I'm afraid I agree more with how Gintokian is seeing this. I suppose anything is possible, though. I will check this out since it'll be starting on Disney XD. Still working my way through The Clone Wars and also rewatching all of Rebels (STILL so impressed with it) before Comcast pulls it from free On Demand.

[Traveller]

Bendu said he saw Thrawns 'defeat...like many arms in a cold embrace.' Not necessarily death though? His defeat may have been the end of his defender project and being dragged off with Ezra.

I really like the time Resistance is set - it has great potential for the inclusion of many characters, as well as a chance to fill in all those blanks prior to tFA.

Like, dare I say it, Snoke. If Filoni carries on the threads he hinted at in Rebels... this could be so good. After Clone Wars and Rebels I have total faith in the guy.

The only spanner in the works for a live action Thrawn return is that so far, with Rebels at least, there was little or no discussion between tLJ and Rebels teams - they were pretty much working independently story wise.