[Silanah]

Getting cotillioned.

[Silanah]

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

Wait, did I say Spite? I meant to say Togg.

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

remove vote

vote Togg

I think it's pretty obvious why I'm doing this.

Venesara signals the killers Spite and Togg. Or Togg and Rikkter (whom they vote for later). Or Rikkter and Spite.

Anyway, that's all I've found. Oh, aside from...

Tiamatha, on 24 November 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 November 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

PS is being wishy-washy by not informing all y'all of this:

"Standard game with one mildly exotic role a jester. The jester's VC is separate from that of the remaining players."

It is Day One. 21 hours 18 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive: Korbas, Korlat, Mockra, Rikkter, Silanah, Spite, Tiamatha, Tennes, Togg, Venesara

There are some votes.

*gasp* There's a jester in the court room?



He's totes going away for contempt of court.

Korlat, on 24 November 2014 - 10:51 PM, said:

Korbas, on 24 November 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Who wants to be the crowd and who wants to b e the security guard, we could get the whole "crime drama" feel up in here!

Oh, dibs on the sleeping security guard in the corner.

Well you may be used in your role, since this whole contempt of court thing is being brought out. Fix this and make sure their is order!

Dibs on court reporter for me.

Korlat already called court reporter, you liar Korbas! Now why would you lie to me like that? Most suspicious. Furthermore, the back and forth between Korlat and Tiamatha on court jobs is just too suspicious for words. So I will stop there as a result.


Somebody remind me what a jester does again - wants to get lynched?

[Korbas]

Silanah, on 25 November 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

Wait, did I say Spite? I meant to say Togg.

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

remove vote

vote Togg

I think it's pretty obvious why I'm doing this.

Venesara signals the killers Spite and Togg. Or Togg and Rikkter (whom they vote for later). Or Rikkter and Spite.

Anyway, that's all I've found. Oh, aside from...

Tiamatha, on 24 November 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 November 2014 - 10:42 PM, said:

PS is being wishy-washy by not informing all y'all of this:

"Standard game with one mildly exotic role a jester. The jester's VC is separate from that of the remaining players."

It is Day One. 21 hours 18 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive: Korbas, Korlat, Mockra, Rikkter, Silanah, Spite, Tiamatha, Tennes, Togg, Venesara

There are some votes.

*gasp* There's a jester in the court room?



He's totes going away for contempt of court.

Korlat, on 24 November 2014 - 10:51 PM, said:

Korbas, on 24 November 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Who wants to be the crowd and who wants to b e the security guard, we could get the whole "crime drama" feel up in here!

Oh, dibs on the sleeping security guard in the corner.

Well you may be used in your role, since this whole contempt of court thing is being brought out. Fix this and make sure their is order!

Dibs on court reporter for me.

Korlat already called court reporter, you liar Korbas! Now why would you lie to me like that? Most suspicious. Furthermore, the back and forth between Korlat and Tiamatha on court jobs is just too suspicious for words. So I will stop there as a result.


Somebody remind me what a jester does again - wants to get lynched?

Jester's are players who have the victory condition "be lynched" they win the game if they are lynched, they lose the game if they survive, get NKed, get vig'ed or modkilled. Their sole goal is to cultivate enough attention from the thread to warrant a lynch without triggering a NK from scum.

So sorry about missing the fact that the court report had already been taken! Has anyone called the janitor yet?

[Venesara]

I'm personally trying to maths in my head about the numbers, and a Jester is throwing me completely off.

There are 10 players, we know that there is a Jester, so how many scum are there?

I mean, it can't be 2 killers and a symp, that would mean 7v3, which, WCS, makes Day 3 D-Day.

8v3 on Day 1
6v3 on Day 2
4v3 on Day 3
2v3 on Day 4 (scum win)

Although, I guess even at 8v2 it's still Day 3 D-Day, right?

8v2 on Day 1
6v2 on Day 2
4v2 on Day 3
2v2 on Day 4 (scum win)

-----

The only other options for a longer game is for there to only be 1 scum, or for some townies to have some lynch or kill protection.... I think it's more likely, then, that this is going to be a 3 Day game.

[Mockra]

Silanah, on 25 November 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

Wait, did I say Spite? I meant to say Togg.

Venesara, on 24 November 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

remove vote

vote Togg

I think it's pretty obvious why I'm doing this.

Venesara signals the killers Spite and Togg. Or Togg and Rikkter (whom they vote for later). Or Rikkter and Spite.

Anyway, that's all I've found. Oh, aside from...

With all the vote jumping and overt signalling I would think that points more towards Ven as the Jester.

[Togg]

It is meant to be a mini. Jester can kill every fucker if we lynch him. The Jester knew who he was before the game started, or when he got his PM. All we knew at the time was there is an exotic role. Then Korbas and Venesara acted the way they acted "before" we knew as a whole. This exchange straight off the bat seemed off, forced, or silly. Therefore either one of them is most likely the Jester and we should steer clear of lynching them. That is why I am inclined to vote elsewhere. Right now Spite is best option for being 100% non Jester as he hasn't posted. So I am down with voting someone in the middle of the pack.

[Togg]

Maybe quiet Korlat or angry Rikkter

[Venesara]

Togg, on 25 November 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

It is meant to be a mini. Jester can kill every fucker if we lynch him. The Jester knew who he was before the game started, or when he got his PM. All we knew at the time was there is an exotic role. Then Korbas and Venesara acted the way they acted "before" we knew as a whole. This exchange straight off the bat seemed off, forced, or silly. Therefore either one of them is most likely the Jester and we should steer clear of lynching them. That is why I am inclined to vote elsewhere. Right now Spite is best option for being 100% non Jester as he hasn't posted. So I am down with voting someone in the middle of the pack.

If Spite is 100% non-jester (not saying I agree with you here) why wouldn't you want to vote him? If you're so certain, wouldn't it be safest to vote there?

[Togg]

Venesara, on 25 November 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Togg, on 25 November 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

It is meant to be a mini. Jester can kill every fucker if we lynch him. The Jester knew who he was before the game started, or when he got his PM. All we knew at the time was there is an exotic role. Then Korbas and Venesara acted the way they acted "before" we knew as a whole. This exchange straight off the bat seemed off, forced, or silly. Therefore either one of them is most likely the Jester and we should steer clear of lynching them. That is why I am inclined to vote elsewhere. Right now Spite is best option for being 100% non Jester as he hasn't posted. So I am down with voting someone in the middle of the pack.

If Spite is 100% non-jester (not saying I agree with you here) why wouldn't you want to vote him? If you're so certain, wouldn't it be safest to vote there?

I am voting there :/

[Togg]

By the way, I am only saying that if someone got the Jester role then you'd want to play that shit! You wouldn't leave it in your PM, you'd bring it to life

[Korbas]

Venesara, on 25 November 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

I'm personally trying to maths in my head about the numbers, and a Jester is throwing me completely off.

There are 10 players, we know that there is a Jester, so how many scum are there?

I mean, it can't be 2 killers and a symp, that would mean 7v3, which, WCS, makes Day 3 D-Day.

8v3 on Day 1 8+3 = 11
6v3 on Day 2
4v3 on Day 3
2v3 on Day 4 (scum win)

Although, I guess even at 8v2 it's still Day 3 D-Day, right?

8v2 on Day 1
6v2 on Day 2
4v2 on Day 3
2v2 on Day 4 (scum win)

-----

The only other options for a longer game is for there to only be 1 scum, or for some townies to have some lynch or kill protection.... I think it's more likely, then, that this is going to be a 3 Day game.

Math is hard.

Actually, since there is a jester in this game it could make it insanely short if there were 3 of them.

6v3v1 - 1 lynch 1 NK -2 Day 1
4v3v1 - 1 lynch 1 NK -2 Day 2
3v3v1 - scum get jester to reveal himself and lynch with jester self voting, scum win 1 lynch Day 3

Without the jester 3 scum was conceivable, with the jester 3 scum is just too much, it's 50% of the towns 6 population right off the bat. I doubt any combination of town roles could combat that unless everyone is roled.

So I am more inclined to believe 2 scum 1 jester 7 town. Closer to the golden ratio and more likely for a mini.

[Togg]

Korbas, on 25 November 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

Venesara, on 25 November 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

I'm personally trying to maths in my head about the numbers, and a Jester is throwing me completely off.

There are 10 players, we know that there is a Jester, so how many scum are there?

I mean, it can't be 2 killers and a symp, that would mean 7v3, which, WCS, makes Day 3 D-Day.

8v3 on Day 1 8+3 = 11
6v3 on Day 2
4v3 on Day 3
2v3 on Day 4 (scum win)

Although, I guess even at 8v2 it's still Day 3 D-Day, right?

8v2 on Day 1
6v2 on Day 2
4v2 on Day 3
2v2 on Day 4 (scum win)

-----

The only other options for a longer game is for there to only be 1 scum, or for some townies to have some lynch or kill protection.... I think it's more likely, then, that this is going to be a 3 Day game.

Math is hard.

Actually, since there is a jester in this game it could make it insanely short if there were 3 of them.

6v3v1 - 1 lynch 1 NK -2 Day 1
4v3v1 - 1 lynch 1 NK -2 Day 2
3v3v1 - scum get jester to reveal himself and lynch with jester self voting, scum win 1 lynch Day 3

Without the jester 3 scum was conceivable, with the jester 3 scum is just too much, it's 50% of the towns 6 population right off the bat. I doubt any combination of town roles could combat that unless everyone is roled.

So I am more inclined to believe 2 scum 1 jester 7 town. Closer to the golden ratio and more likely for a mini.

If there are two scum and a Jester (exotic role) then surely the Jester must be Town aspected? The killers have their kill and town have whatever they have. If in this instance is Jester then maybe lynching the Jester would go in town's favour?

Knowing Gnaw though, what if the Jester "activates" when he is targeted by a night kill not a day lynch?

[Togg]

How long left today?

[Korbas]

Togg, on 25 November 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

If there are two scum and a Jester (exotic role) then surely the Jester must be Town aspected? The killers have their kill and town have whatever they have. If in this instance is Jester then maybe lynching the Jester would go in town's favour?

Knowing Gnaw though, what if the Jester "activates" when he is targeted by a night kill not a day lynch?

Then it wouldn't be a jester anymore, and it said in the setup that the jester had VCs seperate to everyone else. The point of a jester is that he wants to die, but usually has a strong disincentive for anyone to do so, so no one wants to kill them, probably has a revenge kill on the first/last/random voter on the lynch train.

I have a hard time imagining a "town jester" that's really weird to me for some reason.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 25 November 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

Togg, on 25 November 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

If there are two scum and a Jester (exotic role) then surely the Jester must be Town aspected? The killers have their kill and town have whatever they have. If in this instance is Jester then maybe lynching the Jester would go in town's favour?

Knowing Gnaw though, what if the Jester "activates" when he is targeted by a night kill not a day lynch?

Then it wouldn't be a jester anymore, and it said in the setup that the jester had VCs seperate to everyone else. The point of a jester is that he wants to die, but usually has a strong disincentive for anyone to do so, so no one wants to kill them, probably has a revenge kill on the first/last/random voter on the lynch train.

I have a hard time imagining a "town jester" that's really weird to me for some reason.

Well, even if the Jester is part of town, it only helps scum anyway. The Jester wants to attract a lynch, which is town's only tool against scum. So the jester would have to be considered an independent role, or scum.

Good catch on my maths screw up at the top there Korbas - I had written out the 2 scum math first, then just copied and pasted and changed the 2s to 3s, but didn't figure it all out properly.

Anyway, I don't think it's likely that there are 3 scum, but even 2 makes it difficult for town. We gots to be on our game folks!

[Venesara]

Oh, and because now we gots to be super serious and stuff.

remove vote

vote Spite

If he's not going to play, we might as well get rid of him early.

[Korbas]

We have between 4-6 hours left if my math is correct so we do need to act soon, but I admitedly suck at working our hours across time zones and it melts ma head.

Remove Vote

Vote Spite

[Rikkter]

Togg, on 25 November 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

Korbas, on 25 November 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

Venesara, on 25 November 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

I'm personally trying to maths in my head about the numbers, and a Jester is throwing me completely off.

There are 10 players, we know that there is a Jester, so how many scum are there?

I mean, it can't be 2 killers and a symp, that would mean 7v3, which, WCS, makes Day 3 D-Day.

8v3 on Day 1 8+3 = 11
6v3 on Day 2
4v3 on Day 3
2v3 on Day 4 (scum win)

Although, I guess even at 8v2 it's still Day 3 D-Day, right?

8v2 on Day 1
6v2 on Day 2
4v2 on Day 3
2v2 on Day 4 (scum win)

-----

The only other options for a longer game is for there to only be 1 scum, or for some townies to have some lynch or kill protection.... I think it's more likely, then, that this is going to be a 3 Day game.

Math is hard.

Actually, since there is a jester in this game it could make it insanely short if there were 3 of them.

6v3v1 - 1 lynch 1 NK -2 Day 1
4v3v1 - 1 lynch 1 NK -2 Day 2
3v3v1 - scum get jester to reveal himself and lynch with jester self voting, scum win 1 lynch Day 3

Without the jester 3 scum was conceivable, with the jester 3 scum is just too much, it's 50% of the towns 6 population right off the bat. I doubt any combination of town roles could combat that unless everyone is roled.

So I am more inclined to believe 2 scum 1 jester 7 town. Closer to the golden ratio and more likely for a mini.

If there are two scum and a Jester (exotic role) then surely the Jester must be Town aspected? The killers have their kill and town have whatever they have. If in this instance is Jester then maybe lynching the Jester would go in town's favour?

Knowing Gnaw though, what if the Jester "activates" when he is targeted by a night kill not a day lynch?

Obviously you have never played with a Jester. A Jester is a role that has it's own separate winning conditions. A Jesters sole winning condition is to get lynched. If a Jester is nked or survives until the end of the game it loses.

Now before you get your pants in a twist over how can I know that and not be a jester. It is simple I have played in games with them and there is this little thing called google and you can use it to educate yourself (sometime when you aren't looking at porn).

Jester Mafia Role

[Mockra]

Im going to hold off for a bit to see if Spite actually shows up. Not playing at all definitely doesnt seem like a scum move, brings way too much attention. But I agree it certainly doesnt help town at all.

[Spite]

I am here. Seriously busy day yesterday and got to have some family time today.